Study of third hand nicotine from e-cigarette

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1. Nicotine doesn't hurt anyone, especially in these sorts of concentrations. It will be well below a microgram and the body gets rid of it in a couple of hours.
2. "Significantly increased". From zero? Or was there nicotine there before? Why? Are we talking significantly increased from background, because if so we have less than nothing to worry about. When will these people give us numbers?

Who am I trying to kid. They won't ever give us numbers, because there is nothing to worry about. As soon as they find the smoking gun, we will hear about it. But I'm not holding my breath, because I don't believe there is a gun, let alone a smoking one.
 

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Using a syringe to ensure consistent puffs, e-cigarettes were vaped, after which nicotine concentrations were measured from surrounding surfaces – a glass window, vinyl walls, tiled floor, metal, and wood.

Sounds like Lee drew vapor from an ecig using a syringe then ejected the vapor. Of course there's going to be nicotine - it doesn't sound like a person vaped these ecigs so whatever was present in the juice is now in the environment. THIS won first place?!? :blink:
 

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Here's the announcement, straight from the horse's (NIH) mouth: nih.gov/news/health/may2014/nida-16.htm (The phys dot org appears to be a straight cut and paste, but the NIH one has pictures! :laugh:)

I find this curious at best:

She took three brands of e-cigarettes and filled them with varying nicotine concentrations. Using a syringe to ensure consistent puffs, e-cigarettes were vaped, after which nicotine concentrations were measured from surrounding surfaces...

This is text direct from an NIH source, so I find this description of her methodology dodgy to say the least. Who did the vaping? The syringe? Huh... Were human lungs or oral/nasal cavities involved, or was the vapor "applied" directly from the ecig to surface?

Still puzzling over that...

ETA: TomCatt, great minds etc.... :lol:
 

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Sounds like Lee drew vapor from an ecig using a syringe then ejected the vapor. Of course there's going to be nicotine - it doesn't sound like a person vaped these ecigs so whatever was present in the juice is now in the environment. THIS won first place?!? :blink:

I guess she won first place for propaganda. Hopefully someone else won for methodology!
 
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NIDA Director Nora D. Volkow, M.D. stated that non-users can be exposed to nicotine residue from just one e-cigarette. Exactly what does she mean by "one e-cigarette"? There is not a one-to-one correlation between a conventional cigarette and an e-cigarette.

At the very least, each e-cigarette device contains sufficient liquid to produce 150 puffs--the equivalent of 10 to 20 conventional cigarettes, depending on puff duration and puff frequency.
 

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NIDA Director Nora D. Volkow, M.D. stated that non-users can be exposed to nicotine residue from just one e-cigarette. Exactly what does she mean by "one e-cigarette"? There is not a one-to-one correlation between a conventional cigarette and an e-cigarette.

At the very least, each e-cigarette device contains sufficient liquid to produce 150 puffs--the equivalent of 10 to 20 conventional cigarettes, depending on puff duration and puff frequency.

Yet another example of someone in authority pretending to understand ecigs while actually knowing very little. :facepalm:
 
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This suggests that raising the age limit for junk science to 21 is a good idea.

The studies show that virtually all practitioners of junk science and junk statistics became addicted, long before adulthood.

Thousands of future clinicians, scientists, and pubilc health professionals could be saved from having their intellects perish prematurely from junk-science-related conceptual maladies, such as the inabiity to recognize the distinction between causation and correlation.
 

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This only summarizes what she did so I don't know how she actually did her experiment. Did she stand in a kitchen or lab with each individual e-cig and let them suck vape with a syringe and push out a puff and then measure the residue from the surfaces after each one was depleted? Was it the same kitchen/lab? Was the kitchen/lab completely cleaned and tested for prior residue before performing the second and third test? Did she use 3 separate kitchens/lab areas? There's just not enough in this summary to determine whether her test is scientifically correct or not.
 
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