stupid person at work.. says pv's are worse than combustables

[ad356]

i got into a heated debate today at work. a person that works on 3rd shift(i work 2nd) was outside having a cigarette and i was vapping. woman says "you know that thing is worse than cigarettes". i think my response was something along the lines of, your kidding me right? she tried to tell me that e-cigs are dangerous and that they are "full of synthetics". she said that she did her "research". i told her that her "research" was based solely on propaganda designed to protect the big tobacco and pharama companies.she wouldnt even hear my side of the argument and basically told me to shut up and she "new it all".the cigarette she was smoking contains 4,000 chemicals including lovely arsenic, formaldehyde, and hydrogen cyanide(zyklon-b poison in concentration camps). some of the research out on e cigs is misinformation to the extreme and much of it is published by a so called "trusted FDA". i have had quite a few positive experiences people asking me where i got it and how much i paid to it. i have had some people not interested in trying it because they have a closed mind and dont think it would work for them.

this woman was the first that i came across that tried to convince me that e cigs are evil. she even told me they were already banned(what a dumbass really, the courts threw the book at the fda recently). this woman can have her precious cigarettes. i hope she dies from lung cancer. i have made a very positive step in life getting rid of nasty tobacco and she just tried to convince me that i should get rid of the PV and return to smoking. i have lost all respect for that woman that that point. protecting cigarettes WTF.

 

[hairball]

Calm down and breathe...LOL...you can't make everyone believe in them. If she wants to be bullheaded, let her. It's her loss of life, not yours.

 

[Sdh]

I think some folks are just to lazy to really start on ecigs. I have had numerous people wanting me to give them free ecigs. I tell them about this forum and doing research. They state "Oh thats to much work". Well since they are not friends but more frenemie like there is no way I am going to give them stuff for free. They can smoke their cigs and make fun of me...oh yeah they do that at work.(They are having fun right now stating I don't have the willpower to quit smoking and I use a crackpipe instead) Nurses are cruel beast at times.

It could be said about the OP angry lady scenerio that she could be justifying her cig smoking. Down deep every smoker knows it could kill them in the end. She is just using displacement of feelings towards herself upon others. Don't take it personal.

 

[hairball]

I had a woman at work tell me that she loved smoking and wouldn't even consider an ecig. She said this while coughing her head off.

 

[ad356]

i was NOT trying to convince her that she needed to quit smoking. its her choice and i dont care what she does to her body. however, i dont like being told a bunch a BS in an attempt to convince me that vaping is worse than smoking. it just does a complete and utter lack of education in the matter. 20 or less food grade indigents vs. a tube of reconstituted "tobacco" that you like on fire that produces 4,000 chemicals when you breath it in and that smells and tastes like burning garbage. NO CONTEST

 

[CountVapula]

clearly the woman is ignorant and close minded.

 

[ad356]

so in short this woman can say anything she wants, it will meet deaf ears and i will continue to VMOA(vape my ... off, lol).

 

[hairball]

I would have given her a Kansas "howdy" and walked away laughing right in the middle of her BS...but I'm really rude like that.

 

[LMP]

Next time just smile and say, yeah I know, thats why I use them, followed by your best diabolical laugh.

 

[cozzicon]

i got into a heated debate today at work. a person that works on 3rd shift(i work 2nd) was outside having a cigarette and i was vapping. woman says "you know that thing is worse than cigarettes". i think my response was something along the lines of, your kidding me right? she tried to tell me that e-cigs are dangerous and that they are "full of synthetics". she said that she did her "research". i told her that her "research" was based solely on propaganda designed to protect the big tobacco and pharama companies.she wouldnt even hear my side of the argument and basically told me to shut up and she "new it all".the cigarette she was smoking contains 4,000 chemicals including lovely arsenic, formaldehyde, and hydrogen cyanide(zyklon-b poison in concentration camps). some of the research out on e cigs is misinformation to the extreme and much of it is published by a so called "trusted FDA". i have had quite a few positive experiences people asking me where i got it and how much i paid to it. i have had some people not interested in trying it because they have a closed mind and dont think it would work for them.

this woman was the first that i came across that tried to convince me that e cigs are evil. she even told me they were already banned(what a dumbass really, the courts threw the book at the fda recently). this woman can have her precious cigarettes. i hope she dies from lung cancer. i have made a very positive step in life getting rid of nasty tobacco and she just tried to convince me that i should get rid of the PV and return to smoking. i have lost all respect for that woman that that point. protecting cigarettes WTF.

It's amazing to me how ignorant people form opinions and then feel that the right to an opinion equals the "right to be correct".

There's lots of examples in history that indicate the most dangerous people on the planet, are universally the ones who are most unwilling to be *wrong*.

 

[dspin]

Don't you just love a know it all? People like that vote our rights away.

 

[BestLion]

I get the same reaction from my baptist notjob sister.
Well, when people argue with me that ecigs are worse.. i just say please explain to me..how I went from black lung- coughing heavy, out of breath, etc to being able to breath, not coughing, can run a mile and not have to stop 100 times to catch my breath etc.. Please explain that to me 1st then I'll listen to why analogs are better for me then cigs that i smoked 2 packs a day of.

 

[ShannonA]

Just stare at her blankly for a second then say "maybe but they sure taste a lot better" than take another drag and smile

 

[shamreez]

I dont know why people even bother to give explanation.

When I used to smoke I knew I was killing myself. Just was too much addicted to quit.

Now when I have shifted to vaping and I know that I am more healthy than I ever was I dont care a damn about other people.

If anyone asks me what it is I explain what an e-cig is and how it works.

But if some one just wants to debate it is not good or something like that than

1) If it is a smoker I move out thinking you are dying smoking that crap which has everything from 5h1t to ammonia and I and I am having an amazing vape of banana and cream
2) If it is a non smoker I would move out thinking could never make them understand why I smoked once how the hell am I going to convince them why I vape

See it is that simple

 

[yohann976]

Just stare at her blankly for a second then say "maybe but they sure taste a lot better" than take another drag and smile

Hahaha. I said almost the exact same thing when I was yet again told by a smoker that I'm trading one crutch for another crutch.

 

[Stevew443]

I would just smile and say, "My doctor does not think that they are worse than cigarettes." and leave it at that.

 

[ShannonA]

Hahaha. I said almost the exact same thing when I was yet again told by a smoker that I'm trading one crutch for another crutch.

In that case I'd smile and say "this crutch is more comfortable to use"

 

[Ande]

Someday, there may be a cure for cancer.

There may even be a cure for the common cold.

There ain't never gonna be a cure for stupid.

i was NOT trying to convince her that she needed to quit smoking.

Of course not. But...that's what she heard. You were just standing there, vaping, and she heard the shout in her head that said "quit SMOKING!" And, not wanting to listen, she had to shout YOU down.

Don't take it personally.

I made the comparison on another thread to vegetarianism. (Imperfect analogy, I know.) I've been veggie for 20+ years. Never tried to convince anybody to stop eating meat, it's just...me. Something I don't do.

But every now and then, I run into a meat eater who, for whatever reason, feels defensive about eating meat. All I say is "I'll have that without the bacon," and they launch into a list of (often laughable) reasons why meat is necessary, vegetarianism is destroying the world, etc.

You met the same thing; someone who finds your choice threatening.

Best,
Ande

 

[Ande]

It's amazing to me how ignorant people form opinions and then feel that the right to an opinion equals the "right to be correct".

YOu have a right to your own opinions, but you do not have a right to your own facts. ;-)

Ande

PS- Did you blow vapor at this woman? How come?

 

[Josh the Happy]

RANT ON!
Everyone deserves a little hate from time to time.
Even better you have chosen to hate someone
that deserved it!