ETA: BTW I have to add that I am a girl. We vape the same stuff as the guys, and maintenance is something we should all know how to do. Okay, I feel better now.
Well said susieq!
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Well said susieq!
ETA: BTW I have to add that I am a girl. We vape the same stuff as the guys, and maintenance is something we should all know how to do. Okay, I feel better now.
That's what I've been taught. I use Noalox on my mods only, never used it on eGos.
Can you tell us why it's not a good idea, though? I'm curious. Potential toxicity?
That's what I keep reading Katya. Avoid any chance of inhaling it.
Like the new bird.
Like the new bird.
Wow! So many different opinions!
Susieq never meant to imply can't do maintenance but just that garage stuff such as oiling threads is not something I grew up learning about unlike most guys I know that were learning that stuff growing up. I have always turned to a guy in my life when I had those kind of questions. I myself am a very capable girl that towed cars alone for years.
So the final answer seems to be do not use anything to be on the safe side.
Going to get four batteries going with four tanks and will leave things alone for a week at a time.
Susieq never meant to imply can't do maintenance but just that garage stuff such as oiling threads is not something I grew up learning about unlike most guys I know that were learning that stuff growing up. I have always turned to a guy in my life when I had those kind of questions. I myself am a very capable girl that towed cars alone for years.
So the final answer seems to be do not use anything to be on the safe side.
Going to get four batteries going with four tanks and will leave things alone for a week at a time.
Oil in general, yes, but specialized lubricants and lubricants blends will not interfere with conductivity or connections.
This is based on my own personal experience working with firearm lubricants daily - specifically one I developed which has been placed on and inside of many electronic devices including flashlights, firearm optics, computers (boards, chips, resistors, hard drives, CD-ROM's etc) and so on. Not only do these test beds still work, many still have the lubricant in place 4-6 months down the road and I personally have had it on for as long as a year (so far).
Now a year later - same formula - all of the test beds and daily use items are in tip top shape and running just fine. Some oils can take on current, some can't so I wouldn't categorize all oils or lubricants into the same category.
What the biggest concern should be is toxicity, especially since we're putting a mod or battery near our mouth on a continual basis. If there's a huge degree of toxicity or if there's a low auto-ignition point, there's no way it should go on or near your mod.
This is based on my own personal experience working with firearm lubricants daily - specifically one I developed which has been placed on and inside of many electronic devices including flashlights, firearm optics, computers (boards, chips, resistors, hard drives, CD-ROM's etc) and so on. Not only do these test beds still work, many still have the lubricant in place 4-6 months down the road and I personally have had it on for as long as a year (so far).
Now a year later - same formula - all of the test beds and daily use items are in tip top shape and running just fine. Some oils can take on current, some can't so I wouldn't categorize all oils or lubricants into the same category.
What the biggest concern should be is toxicity, especially since we're putting a mod or battery near our mouth on a continual basis. If there's a huge degree of toxicity or if there's a low auto-ignition point, there's no way it should go on or near your mod.
Sounds good to me, chanelvaps! I've been using eGo-class batteries for years and never lubricated their threads. But I do clean them--threads and contacts--with a q-tip dipped in Isopropyl alcohol; an old, soft toothbrush is also handy for cleaning threads and recessed areas. BTW, your charger threads and contacts need to be cleaned as well.
Good luck and happy vaping!
Good luck and happy vaping!
Anybody that has made it this far can read this sort of dueling thread. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/452962-thermal-compound.html
Oh no... Flamingo, why are you doing this to me?
TMI. I just do as I'm told--Noalox on mods' threads (bottom cap only), stainless steel or not; nothing on the eGos. If somebody has any good information as to why I shouldn't be doing this, please PM me.
Oh no... Flamingo, why are you doing this to me?
TMI. I just do as I'm told--Noalox on mods' threads (bottom cap only), stainless steel or not; nothing on the eGos. If somebody has any good information as to why I shouldn't be doing this, please PM me.
I don't know for a fact, but have read on the forums over the years that using nolax/ or the like, on threads that are right next to what your inhaling close to may cause harm to your lungs?? Not sure if its true, but it sounds reasonable to me. At least its not something I would want to test. If I need to lubricate something close to my mouth, I use plain VG. For example. orings in my carto tanks.
Thanks, I use plain PG, VG or a mix of the two to lubricate o-rings. Works like a charm and is fully vapeable.
chanelvaps, unless there is someone around who is an expert in this stuff, all you can do is research it to the best of your ability and then make up your own mind. Going with 4 batts and not changing tanks often is a great idea
I work with lubricants daily and designed my own from over a year of R&D. It was originally designed for firearms, but can be used for pretty much anything that needs lubrication and anti-corrosion protection (I won't mention the name, due to forum rules as this isn't meant to be an advertisement, rather - me sharing my knowledge).
My post on the third page of this thread was more so outlining that the major factor that should be considered when lubricating anything is the toxicity level. Most recommend food-grade lubricants, such as Lubriplate, which is rated for incidental food contact and is overall pretty safe, but it's not truly safe for something that is constantly heating and cooling, such as the areas below a coil. It contains mineral oil and additive packets which are *not* safe for inhalation and can cause lung damage and irritation.
Noalox is fine for the threads surrounding the battery tubes, but I wouldn't use it around areas of air flow for vapor production. It can also react with water, which is an issue for me (even their MSDS states this). This is more of an issue for me as I'm around water often and I don't want to risk a chemical reaction to the zinc powder occurring on my PV, regardless of whether it's from China or an american made Provari (being the more expensive option).
If you need something that is going to work well, PG/VG on threads around air intake points because you're inhaling that anyway and it's safe to vape. For all other areas, I'd recommend something that'll work as an anti-oxidant or anti-corrosive (specifically something that is non-toxic) and will repel water or liquids. We've all had issues where we dripped juice down our PV, some worse than others, and some juice companies do use Distilled Water in their juice to thin it a bit - so there's your potential for reaction with Noalox.
If anyone has specific questions, feel free to ask. Again, this isn't meant to be promotional (hence me not mentioning the brand), but more so informative.
My post on the third page of this thread was more so outlining that the major factor that should be considered when lubricating anything is the toxicity level. Most recommend food-grade lubricants, such as Lubriplate, which is rated for incidental food contact and is overall pretty safe, but it's not truly safe for something that is constantly heating and cooling, such as the areas below a coil. It contains mineral oil and additive packets which are *not* safe for inhalation and can cause lung damage and irritation.
Noalox is fine for the threads surrounding the battery tubes, but I wouldn't use it around areas of air flow for vapor production. It can also react with water, which is an issue for me (even their MSDS states this). This is more of an issue for me as I'm around water often and I don't want to risk a chemical reaction to the zinc powder occurring on my PV, regardless of whether it's from China or an american made Provari (being the more expensive option).
If you need something that is going to work well, PG/VG on threads around air intake points because you're inhaling that anyway and it's safe to vape. For all other areas, I'd recommend something that'll work as an anti-oxidant or anti-corrosive (specifically something that is non-toxic) and will repel water or liquids. We've all had issues where we dripped juice down our PV, some worse than others, and some juice companies do use Distilled Water in their juice to thin it a bit - so there's your potential for reaction with Noalox.
If anyone has specific questions, feel free to ask. Again, this isn't meant to be promotional (hence me not mentioning the brand), but more so informative.
chanelvaps, unless there is someone around who is an expert in this stuff, all you can do is research it to the best of your ability and then make up your own mind. Going with 4 batts and not changing tanks often is a great idea
Thank you Tactical, that's excellent information
How do you feel about using plumbers silicone grease like this one for lube in the path of airflow? I can't find an MSDS for this but have found a bunch for other products like it. Nothing bad that I can see in them, but inhalation is not a concern for these products, so it may not be covered.
How do you feel about using plumbers silicone grease like this one for lube in the path of airflow? I can't find an MSDS for this but have found a bunch for other products like it. Nothing bad that I can see in them, but inhalation is not a concern for these products, so it may not be covered.
Girl? I'm one. Changing a tire is some heavy stuff. Taking care of vape gear is not.
The only issue I have with that specific product is that I can't find an MSDS on it . I'm finicky about MSDS's and while not all companies are required to put them on site, it does delay things a bit because the only way to get them is to get in touch with the company.
Silicon is used on many vaping products, from grommets to insulators, so in itself, it's most likely not going to be harmful, otherwise we'd be seeing a ton of issues across the board; especially from those who use more advanced vaping gear (RDA/RBA's etc).
That said, if you're using an RDA/RBA where the airflow is coming from the top of the tank, you should be fine. If you're using a tank where the airflow comes in through the base where the lubricant would be, such as the Protank, EVOD etc, I'd probably stick to PG/VG as both of them work very well and it doesn't require more than a drop to get things lubricated.
. I'm finicky about MSDS's and while not all companies are required to put them on site, it does delay things a bit because the only way to get them is to get in touch with the company.Silicon is used on many vaping products, from grommets to insulators, so in itself, it's most likely not going to be harmful, otherwise we'd be seeing a ton of issues across the board; especially from those who use more advanced vaping gear (RDA/RBA's etc).
That said, if you're using an RDA/RBA where the airflow is coming from the top of the tank, you should be fine. If you're using a tank where the airflow comes in through the base where the lubricant would be, such as the Protank, EVOD etc, I'd probably stick to PG/VG as both of them work very well and it doesn't require more than a drop to get things lubricated.
Thank you Tactical, that's excellent information
How do you feel about using plumbers silicone grease like this one for lube in the path of airflow? I can't find an MSDS for this but have found a bunch for other products like it. Nothing bad that I can see in them, but inhalation is not a concern for these products, so it may not be covered.
The only issue I have with that specific product is that I can't find an MSDS on it
Thanks again for your feedback Tactical. Well, I'm going to switch from Ox-Gard to silicone grease for everything and see how that goes. Just cleaned and lubed my K100 and it feels and vapes just fine. I won't be using it on internal tank parts. VG works well enough for that so nothing to be gained anyway.
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