guys i got it, and i have a 100 percent solution that doesnt require much if you experience this! i didnt need to break out channel locks but if you have to you can without damaging an
rta with a really low profile... grip ring? wrap a rubber band around it. itll lock up your airflow control and give amazing grip as well.. tried the freezer, put it in before i even posted actually with no luck (really would only work if they were different metals) it worked extremely well. thank you very much for the suggestions though guys