Subtank questions

[Noraj1067]

I'm super excited about my Subtank. I feel like it's a good medium between the nautilus and the Atlantis. I'm getting a lot of vapor andmy battery seems to be lasting a lot longer. My questions are about the two size coils. Which size works the best for everyone? Does one have a better lifespan. Also I feel like the vapor production is a lot hotter. I'm not sure how I feel about it. The warm vape kind of freaks me out. Is the hotter vape normal? It feel like it's a tighter draw too and makes a heavier vape. Is there a way to make the vape not as dense?

Also, is there a certain type of juice or brand of juice that works better with sub ohming? I'm in search for a flavor that not insanely sweet. I'm really bummed that my nicoticket is really overwhelming in these tanks. I've tried different but it's all sickeningly sweet.

( I'm sorry I have so many questions. The local stores have taken advantage of me before, and I'm trying to find honest answers)

 

[Rizzyking]

Hi the .5 ohm head will likely be the one giving you a hotter vape and it is normal the other 1.2 ohm head will usually give the cooler vape but all depends what power your putting through it. As for juice I use the same juice as I always do whether sub ohming or not don't really notice much difference myself you might want to lower nic level if your vaping higher nic liquid that's about it hope that helps.

 

[drunkenbatman]

My questions are about the two size coils. Which size works the best for everyone? Does one have a better lifespan. Also I feel like the vapor production is a lot hotter. I'm not sure how I feel about it. The warm vape kind of freaks me out. Is the hotter vape normal?

Yeah, it's 100% normal. There are two coils, 0.5 and 1.2 ohm. The higher-ohm coil will vape cooler, but 0.5 is basically like a dripper so gives a very warm vape. Theoretically, 1.2ohm should have a longer lifespan -- but if you won't be rewicking and dry-burning that's probably academic. Since it burns less hot though, you may go through eliquid less so things will get gunked up less.

It feel like it's a tighter draw too and makes a heavier vape. Is there a way to make the vape not as dense?

Have you played with lowering the wattage, and the airflow control? If you open it up, more air will mix in, cooling things down and toning down the flavor. You can also slipstream (not sealing your mouth to the drip tip when you inhale) or consider a longer drip tip which will allow the vapor more time to cool before it hits your mouth.

Also, is there a certain type of juice or brand of juice that works better with sub ohming? I'm in search for a flavor that not insanely sweet. I'm really bummed that my nicoticket is really overwhelming in these tanks. I've tried different but it's all sickeningly sweet.

In general, you'll want a higher-VG to keep the harshness away. That might mellow out a lot of your concerns above about the warm, too.

Hotter temps can play a number on some eliquids, and sweet is pretty popular so it can be hard to avoid -- I'm sure others will chime in.

( I'm sorry I have so many questions. The local stores have taken advantage of me before, and I'm trying to find honest answers)

Don't apologize, you're where you should be! Ask for whatever you need or don't understand.

 

[Noraj1067]

I just compared the vape of the Atlantis to the Subtank and the Subtank is definitely hotter. Also I'm having a hard time getting a large cloud. The air holes are open completely. I'm using the 1.2 coil. I really want the Subtank to by my go to every day tank but the hot vape really bothers me for some reason.

 

[Rwb1500]

Sorry to hear that stores have taken advantage of you. Unfortunately it happens way too often.

Since most of your questions have been answered I'll just address your quest for a non-sweet juice. I like naturally extracted tobacco flavors when I want something a little less sweet. My favorites come from Heather's Heavenly Vapes. They still retain a bit of sweetness, but nothing like a fruit or dessert liquid would.

 

[drunkenbatman]

I just compared the vape of the Atlantis to the Subtank and the Subtank is definitely hotter. Also I'm having a hard time getting a large cloud. The air holes are open completely. I'm using the 1.2 coil. I really want the Subtank to by my go to every day tank but the hot vape really bothers me for some reason.

I'm a little confused based on what I know of how they work and trying a friends -- what wattage are you using, and what mod/battery? And have you tried lowering the wattage?

 

[Noraj1067]

I'm running on 16 watts right now. I tried 20 and it was scorching. The coil says it can run up to 25.

 

[crxess]

I'm running on 16 watts right now. I tried 20 and it was scorching. The coil says it can run up to 25.

Are you testing BOTH on the same Device and with the SAME value coils?
What DEVICE are you testing on?

Something is not right and I doubt it is the SubTank. These have already been tested and reviewed several times with BOTH heads. Reviews have been very POSITIVE.
The Design is Very Positive for quality functionality.

What about your e-liquid? Is it very high VG - real thick?
You may also be dry hitting and that WILL get nasty quick.

 

[Noraj1067]

I'm currently using nicoticket. If I try to vape at higher than 15 watts it tastes burnt. Also the vapor production is very thin, even at lower watts. It's a brand new coil and brand new tank I bought yesterday. I'm very disheartened. I keep running into really crappy luck. Any ideas on how to trouble shoot? I know nothing of the kanger tanks.

 

[underwhelmd]

I vape between 12-15 watts normally on subtank (most people use way more than that and they like it). At 12 watts, it's producing more vapor than I need or could even deal with and the flavour is fine, vapor is not hot. If I want more vapor, I take it to 15, sometimes 18. It's never "hot", just more vapor. Doesn't take long to fill a room with fog. Using max vg, 3mg nicotene juice.

Something is wrong on your end, sorry I can't be of help... just wanted to say it's not like that with my setup.


Edit: what battery are you using? (please don't say istick)

also, you did remember to prime the coil before use? It needs to be wet before firing it up. once burnt, it's burnt for good.

 

[Phild0]

My subtanks are leaking around the afc ring. That's my only complaint about them. They have much better flavor than my Atlantis'. When you say it's a good in between tank, I don't understand that. It's on par with the Atlantis for airflow, and puts it under the table with flavor.

With that said, if I chain vape my Subtank at 20 watts with an 80vg 20pg juice it starts to get a LITTLE warm. I have to cover the air holes with my finger and give it a hit to juice up the wicks every 4 or 5 hits. Only when really hitting it heavy though. I use both the .5 ohm and 1.2 ohm and they both vape good.

 

[Rizzyking]

We need more information before we might be able to help noraj what device are you using, did you prime the coils before use and if you didn't how long did you let it sit. My experience with the subtank is the total opposite of yours I vape at 25w and don't have any issues the too hot driptip might be because your using the inside of your lips on it which are a lot more sensitive then your outer lips. Until you give a bit more info it's hard to help you more also I'm not familiar with the liquid your using what ratio pg&VG is it?.

 

[Dioxyde]

My subtanks are leaking around the afc ring. That's my only complaint about them. They have much better flavor than my Atlantis'. When you say it's a good in between tank, I don't understand that. It's on par with the Atlantis for airflow, and puts it under the table with flavor.

With that said, if I chain vape my Subtank at 20 watts with an 80vg 20pg juice it starts to get a LITTLE warm. I have to cover the air holes with my finger and give it a hit to juice up the wicks every 4 or 5 hits. Only when really hitting it heavy though. I use both the .5 ohm and 1.2 ohm and they both vape good.

The red oring that sits in your AFC has a rounded side and a flat side. Make sure that the rounded side is facing upwards towards the glass tank. Some of the subtanks have shipped with it upside down... (lol) and doing this has stopped the afc from leaking for some. I for one have experienced zero leaking with this tank whatsoever but only use it at home.

 

[wheelie]

Higher watts on the .5 coils. I run mine on 22.5 to 32.5. Lower wattage on the 1.2. I have never used the coil heads that came with it. Subohms you have to open the air flow so the three holes are open. I built a single coil, 26 gauge at 1.1 ohms and running it on 18.5 watts with one air hole open. Both are nice cool vapes. I run long 4 inch drip tipson everything to cool vape down. To be honest if the store took advantage of you, you were likely not ready for the Kanger Subtank. Ask lots of questions and people will try to help you out to get you up to speed on it. CHEERS!

 

[Noraj1067]

I'm using a Hanna clone mod. The coil was primed correctly and put in at the store. Now I'm having problems with leaking. I took the tank off to fill it and my mod is saying check atomizer when I was using it all day. The pin on the bottom looks the same and is spring loaded so I'm lost as to why it can't read it. I cleaned the threading of the mod and the tank and still a no go. All I did was open the tank, fill it and put the top back on. The tank starts flooding and coming out the air holes as well. I took the coil out and cleaned underneath but it keeps doing it. I don't know what to do and I'm starting to feel like an idiot because nothing I get works the way it's supposed to. Please help. I was so excited about this tank.

 

[Dioxyde]

I'm using a Hanna clone mod. The coil was primed correctly and put in at the store. Now I'm having problems with leaking. I took the tank off to fill it and my mod is saying check atomizer when I was using it all day. The pin on the bottom looks the same and is spring loaded so I'm lost as to why it can't read it. I cleaned the threading of the mod and the tank and still a no go. All I did was open the tank, fill it and put the top back on. The tank starts flooding and coming out the air holes as well. I took the coil out and cleaned underneath but it keeps doing it. I don't know what to do and I'm starting to feel like an idiot because nothing I get works the way it's supposed to. Please help. I was so excited about this tank.

When you unscrew the air flow controller from the tank make sure you don't lose the red o-ring that's in there. The AFC is pictured here, third item to the right and should have a red oring in there. The oring itself has a flat side and a rounded side, make sure the rounded side is facing upwards towards the tank, many of the subtanks are shipping with it upside down. When this is the case it's very easy to lose it when you unscrew the AFC as it doesn't sit properly and can also cause leaking out the air holes.


For your atomizer error, just make sure everything is screwed down tight (but don't push it). Try the tank on another mod to see if it is the mod or the tank, is the connector on your mod adjustable, or wobbly at all? I've had a vamo for a long time that gives me resistance errors on anything I tighten too much on it, it just has a crappy center pin.

 

[Noraj1067]

I checked two Atlantis tanks and two nautilus tanks on the mini and they all work fine so it has to be the tank. All of The o rings seem to be placed correctly and are intact. I called the store and they basically said "that sucks". It worked in the store. It worked for th firet initial fill up, and now it's not usable. I'm so frustrated. I spent 50 bucks on this tank!

 

[Mrdaputer]

I'm currently using nicoticket. If I try to vape at higher than 15 watts it tastes burnt. Also the vapor production is very thin, even at lower watts. It's a brand new coil and brand new tank I bought yesterday. I'm very disheartened. I keep running into really crappy luck. Any ideas on how to trouble shoot? I know nothing of the kanger tanks.

I checked two Atlantis tanks and two nautilus tanks on the mini and they all work fine so it has to be the tank. All of The o rings seem to be placed correctly and are intact. I called the store and they basically said "that sucks". It worked in the store. It worked for th firet initial fill up, and now it's not usable. I'm so frustrated. I spent 50 bucks on this tank!

What pg/vg level are you using? Have you tried a little longer drip tip?. As for the leaking have you given it a good cleaning and tried a different coil? Or maybe the RBA

 

[drunkenbatman]

I checked two Atlantis tanks and two nautilus tanks on the mini and they all work fine so it has to be the tank. All of The o rings seem to be placed correctly and are intact. I called the store and they basically said "that sucks". It worked in the store. It worked for th firet initial fill up, and now it's not usable. I'm so frustrated. I spent 50 bucks on this tank!

Hey mate,

I 100% get your frustration, I'd be frustrated too. Everyone here wants to help, we're just a little confused and it's hard to methodically go through everything remotely. In situations like these there is usually either something being overlooked or you fed the mogwai after midnight.

If you bought it locally, is taking it back in person and saying "something is off, can we go through this and I'll show you what it's doing and see if you can spot why?"

 

[catalinaflyer]

I'm just watching to see what the problem might be. I finally got my Subtank a couple weeks ago and am running the .5 ohm (reads .56) at 25 watts and been through well over 120 ml of juice. Still rocking just like the first vape and close to the same vapor as my Atlantis. I don't expect the Kanger to ever get the same amount of vapor as the Atlantis because of two different coil designs. Subtank is a normal horizontal coil with the wicking running through the center of the coil and the Atlantis is a vertical coil with the wicking material wrapped around it and 4 juice holes roughly doubling the amount of juice available to the wicking material.

FWIW, I have had 1 burnt draw on my Sub and that was because I had inadvertently run the wattage up to 80. About knocked me to the ground but 2 vapes at 25 watts and it was back to tasting fine. No lasting ill effects which is a testament to the quality of the coil, most would have blown the coil in two or at the very least destroyed the wicking material.