Suggestion needed - Which vaporizer is best as hookah replacment

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OK, I did a little research on hookahs (since I have never seen one).
I think you'd be best looking at something strong, not a mtl, but a direct to lung tank/coil.
And I'd think sub-ohm, running a minimum of 35 watts or more.
I use a nautilus mini, running 13 watts, and I'm a mouth to lung. I would NOT suggest anything similar to that for you, Yazan.
Further than this, others with more experience in that type of gear can assist you better in your quest.

And I wish you the best luck. Most any vape product would be way healthier than a hookah.

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OK, I did a little research on hookahs (since I have never seen one).
I think you'd be best looking at something strong, not a mtl, but a direct to lung tank/coil.
And I'd think sub-ohm, running a minimum of 35 watts or more.
I use a Nautilus mini, running 13 watts, and I'm a mouth to lung. I would NOT suggest anything similar to that for you, Yazan.
Further than this, others with more experience in that type of gear can assist you better in your quest.

And I wish you the best luck. Most any vape product would be way healthier than a hookah.

:)
You must be a criminal too that has no idea what you're talking about.

Yeah nvm I see you're a demonrat so it goes without saying you're a criminal that has no idea what you're talking about.
 

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Someone else her posted this and gave me permission to share it... very good info:
There are currently three styles of vaping:

Pod mod: Low power, low juice usage, tends to use really high nicotine levels to make up for the low power.

MTL (mouth-to-lung): Sort of a middle-of-the-road option. Gives you a bit more power, uses a bit more juice, and the juice is generally at a slightly lower nicotine concentration.

DL (direct lung): Big clouds. A lot of power, a lot of juice, but since you're going through so much juice it usually has a lower concentration of nicotine.

Moving on to MTL kit:

You'll want a mod, which is the power source and holds the battery, and a tank, the thing on top you put the eliquid in.


Tank

Tanks hold the eliquid and the coil, which vaporizes it. Coils are replaceable and generally last around 1 - 3 weeks. Tanks are designed either for MTL or DL. Some can do both, but usually not well. The tanks mentioned above (Innokin Zenith or Zlide and Aspire Nautilus GT) are excellent MTL tanks, and probably what you want to get.

Mod

Mods can usually be used for either MTL or DL. Some lower-powered mods don't have enough power for certain DL tanks, but I won't go into that unless you want more information. The big decision with a mod is whether you want an internal or integrated battery mod or a replaceable battery mod. With an internal battery mod, the battery is part of the mod and you usually charge it by USB. With a replaceable battery mod, you take out the batteries and charge them in a charger.

The advantage of replaceable batteries is that they're replaceable. Batteries only last so long - often a year or so - so when the battery in an internal battery mod wears out you need to replace the whole mod. With a replaceable battery mod, you just replace the battery and keep using the mod. Some people also prefer being able to swap batteries instead of having to recharge the mod.
 
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    You must be a criminal too that has no idea what you're talking about.

    Yeah nvm I see you're a demonrat so it goes without saying you're a criminal that has no idea what you're talking about.
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    Bring it on, baby! Tell me all I need to hear. Lolol

    Don't bother buddy,his erratic and insulting behavior towards other members of EFC is normal around here.
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    FYI. I don't know how much you know about vaping. I apologise in advance if I start telling you basic stuff that you already know.

    Last question first. Could you clarify what you mean by vaporizer. Do you mean the coil, or a head with a built in coil that you install in the tank, or something else? Sometimes the words we use mean different things to different people.

    The coil can have an effect on the temperature. Mainly it's the amount of power you feed to the coil from the battery. Though some coils will get very hot with a smallish amount of power and others need a large amount of power to get hot.

    I never used that Melo tank. There's a search box on this forum. If you search on Melo you should find information about it. By the way, you can buy the Pico with or without a tank. If it comes with a tank there are several tanks it sometimes comes with.

    Tanks can be divided into two types. One type you make your own coil and install it in the tank. The other type the coil comes preassembled in a head that you screw into the tank. That's just choice. Heads are more convenient, making your own coils gives you more flexibility and it's a lot cheaper.

    Another way of looking at tanks concerns the amount of power they are designed to operate at. The tanks I use are designed for low power. They have restricted air flow and don't make much vapor. Other tanks are designed to use high power and have more open air flow to handle the large amount of vapor that is produced. Which you choose depends on what is important to you. Is flavor more important to you than clouds? High power tanks burn through a lot of juice, which means money. Unless you make your own juice which is another topic. If you go with high power you also have to think about a battery that can handle it.

    Battery units are generally called mods around here.

    I'm not the best person to suggest specific tanks since all mine are old and not available any more.

    Noise is a difficult one. The two main noises are the crackling you sometimes get from big higher power coils, and the whistling noise some tanks make from the airflow. Once you start thinking about specific tanks people who are familiar with them could tell you how noisy they are.

    This is complicated. Just be patient and ask lots of questions and you will get there. Since you have a limited choice of gear where you are it might be little harder to find something that works for you.

    Clouds doesnt matter, only thing left for me is the whisling it makes.

    Correct me if im wrong, i should get a high-ohm (>2.0) coil with large air flow so the vape doesnt get heated?

    Maybe i should try menthol juice too

    Mods/vaporizers ive read that good being silent(i dnt understand why since the coil n tank that makes the noise, ) :

    Aspire nautilus mini
    Innokin's Endure
    Eleaf iCare
     
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    OK, I did a little research on hookahs (since I have never seen one).
    I think you'd be best looking at something strong, not a mtl, but a direct to lung tank/coil.
    And I'd think sub-ohm, running a minimum of 35 watts or more.
    I use a Nautilus mini, running 13 watts, and I'm a mouth to lung. I would NOT suggest anything similar to that for you, Yazan.
    Further than this, others with more experience in that type of gear can assist you better in your quest.

    And I wish you the best luck. Most any vape product would be way healthier than a hookah.

    :)

    Ive read good things about Nautilus mini
    Does it make a loud whisling noise with the sub ohm coil?
     
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    Someone else her posted this and gave me permission to share it... very good info:
    There are currently three styles of vaping:

    Pod mod: Low power, low juice usage, tends to use really high nicotine levels to make up for the low power.

    MTL (mouth-to-lung): Sort of a middle-of-the-road option. Gives you a bit more power, uses a bit more juice, and the juice is generally at a slightly lower nicotine concentration.

    DL (direct lung): Big clouds. A lot of power, a lot of juice, but since you're going through so much juice it usually has a lower concentration of nicotine.

    Moving on to MTL kit:

    You'll want a mod, which is the power source and holds the battery, and a tank, the thing on top you put the eliquid in.


    Tank

    Tanks hold the eliquid and the coil, which vaporizes it. Coils are replaceable and generally last around 1 - 3 weeks. Tanks are designed either for MTL or DL. Some can do both, but usually not well. The tanks mentioned above (Innokin Zenith or Zlide and Aspire Nautilus GT) are excellent MTL tanks, and probably what you want to get.

    Mod

    Mods can usually be used for either MTL or DL. Some lower-powered mods don't have enough power for certain DL tanks, but I won't go into that unless you want more information. The big decision with a mod is whether you want an internal or integrated battery mod or a replaceable battery mod. With an internal battery mod, the battery is part of the mod and you usually charge it by USB. With a replaceable battery mod, you take out the batteries and charge them in a charger.

    The advantage of replaceable batteries is that they're replaceable. Batteries only last so long - often a year or so - so when the battery in an internal battery mod wears out you need to replace the whole mod. With a replaceable battery mod, you just replace the battery and keep using the mod. Some people also prefer being able to swap batteries instead of having to recharge the mod.

    Thank you for sharing, much helpful info
     
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    Clouds doesnt matter, only thing left for me is the whisling it makes.

    Correct me if im wrong, i should get a high-ohm (>2.0) coil with large air flow so the vape doesnt get heated?

    Maybe i should try menthol juice too

    Mods/vaporizers ive read that good being silent(i dnt understand why since the coil n tank that makes the noise, ) :

    Aspire nautilus mini
    Innokin's Endure
    Eleaf iCare

    The endure and the iCare are pods. The Nautilus is a separate tank. The way it works is that any tank pretty much can be put on any mod. It's not like a particular tank must be associated with a particular mod. Pods are different. The tank and power supply are built as one unit.

    Maybe a pod would work for you. Never tried one myself and I don't know anything about them.

    Coils over 2.0 ohms are kind of rare these days. If you had one it would tend to work with tight air flow.

    I've got a Nautilus. Full size not a Mini but they are pretty similar apart from size. It doesn't make much noise. No whistling. Nice tank. It takes around 1.6 to 1.8 ohm coils. Runs from about 8 to 15 watts power. My wife uses one on a Pico at 8 watts.

    You can still get the Nautilus and the Mini if you look around. There have been several different models of Nautilus since the original came out. They are newer so they are easier to find. I've never used them myself.

    I had a tank that whistled loudly once but I can't remember what it was. Loud whistling is quite rare. I just tried all 5 tanks me and the wife have and they were all about the same level of sound. One of them whistled slightly. That was a KFL and you can't buy them any more.

    Bear in mind that all tanks make some noise when the coil is firing. You get used to it. You won't find a silent one. I never used a hookah so I don't know about them. I guess the heating action happens in the part that sits on the table so it's some feet away from you and you aren't used to the part you put in your mouth making noise.
     
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    You must be a criminal too that has no idea what you're talking about.

    Yeah nvm I see you're a demonrat so it goes without saying you're a criminal that has no idea what you're talking about.

    How on earth do you continue to get away with this type of behavior? I guess it's the new ecf....

    Don't bother buddy,his erratic and insulting behavior towards other members of EFC is normal around here.
    Just do as i do,report his posts and move on,he is not worth the trouble.
    Well, I see he has "moved on."
    Helping the new folks is what the ecf is all about. Helped me a lot. And we should pay it forward, lending freely to others.
    There is no room for such unwarranted negativity.
    And @Yazan , Best of luck again!
     

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    OP (that means original poster) if you can find something that does everything you want/need, does it really matter how it sounds? No, you don't need a 2 ohm coil (they are all different in many ways... it's not just about ohms) I hope you find what you seek, but eventually you may have to choose what is most important even if it's not perfect... it's the vapor that really matters.
     

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    I don't' have any silent tanks, but I do have tanks that are quieter than others.

    I don't have any that whistle very loudly that would drive me ape, maybe pods are quieter but I kid of doubt it. I think it has to do with the fact air HAS to come through the vape.

    But what they say about farts also applies to combustible tobacco: silent but deadly isn't what you want, really.

    Good luck and I hope things are going well for you.
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