Suggestions for the next REO

[rc10mike]

After owning a VV Grand since the day they were released, there is a lot I love about this thing, but a few things I dont really care for.

I carry my VVG with me everywhere I go. I keep it in my pocket most of the time. Many times though, the catch cup will leak into my pocket when I sit down. It happens more times than I care to count. Perhaps a better juice return would help?

The next issue is the Big Button. Ive accidentally killed 4 HH357 atties and melted 1 drip tip in the last 2 months from the Reo firing in my pocket or stowed. I usually remember to turn the VVG off, but I always seem to kill something the ONE time I forget to turn it off. I never had a problem with the recessed button. Perhaps a recessed Big Button would work? Or a more convenient external on/off switch?

The last thing is auto feeding. It happens if I leave it in my car or if I fly on a plane. In the car, heat build up causes the air in the bottle to expand pushing the juice out. When flying, as the plane increases altitude, the air pressure decreases, so the air in the bottle tries to equalize thus pushing the juice out. My personal fix is to loosen the bottle until the plane is at cruising, but I forget sometimes. I once lost about 4ml all over the outside of my Reo on a flight. I really dont think theres an easy way to fix this issue, other than loosening the bottle. Perhaps a pressure relief valve?

 

[JC Okie]

I just flew last weekend with my VV Grand, and I filled the bottle all the way so that there was no air, and absolutely no leaks.

Have you had/do you have a regular Grand? The button on the top might be more convenient for you. Also, I use the RM2 rebuildable atty that Rob is selling these days; I never have a leak, and it's the best vape I've ever had. If you think there's even a possibility of a leak, you can put an o-ring in the catch cup and it will completely seal off the catch cup because of the size of the RBA. Also, with the RBAs you can wrap a coil (piece of cake) to any ohm you like, which makes the Grand work almost like a VV since you can vary the voltage by customizing the resistance. It's a thought.

 

[rc10mike]

I just flew last weekend with my VV Grand, and I filled the bottle all the way so that there was no air, and absolutely no leaks.

Have you had/do you have a regular Grand? The button on the top might be more convenient for you. Also, I use the RM2 rebuildable atty that Rob is selling these days; I never have a leak, and it's the best vape I've ever had. If you think there's even a possibility of a leak, you can put an o-ring in the catch cup and it will completely seal off the catch cup because of the size of the RBA. Also, with the RBAs you can wrap a coil (piece of cake) to any ohm you like, which makes the Grand work almost like a VV since you can vary the voltage by customizing the resistance. It's a thought.

I do own a few Grands. I tried the ERA and the Chalice II and both never produced satisfactory results for me.

 

[boilednuts]

Ditto here Jan, albeit flying round trip to L.A. with a Grand...bottle half full/no issues with leaks. Had the Grand upright all the time (jacket inside pocket) so don't know if this helps.

 

[pdib]

Flying in a few hours. Freaking out now! (not really, well yes really, well, really flying, not freaking but wouldn't mind a good game plan). So I've got one (@least 4ml full) lost 4ml juice to pocket. I've got one FULL, no leaks. And one 1/2 full, no leaks. Hmmmmmmm. How should I approach this tomorrow?

 

[Justice]

I have both vv and reg grand and minis with a7s chalice eras hornets and the Reomizer 2. Never any leaks with any of them. If your getting unsatisfactory results as far as vapor and or heat issues it all comes down to your build. As far as leaking yes if flooded they all leak. All of them I do use an print under them but that's more to line up the air holes where I want them.

 

[FeistyAlice]

DH flew twice weekly for a couple of years with REO Mini various levels of filled bottles in Mini in shirt pocket and rarely any leaks. I've flown several times with Mini in travel vest pocket and no leaks. I'm flying out Friday with a couple Mini 2.0 and one will be loaded and in my vest pocket.

Perhaps juice PG/VG may cause different degrees of leaking or not.

I’ll be carrying my RM2s and loaded Mini will sport an LR 510 carto to further reduce any leaking possibility. Most of DH's air travel was with cartos.

DH did have one major leak with loaded Mini in baggie, a spare with carto attached, that got shoved around in his carry on for weeks.

Also, and important, if you carry any spare bottles that fit REO, for quick change out they will leak flying unless you have either the nipple on them or o-ring in cap and no nipple. I find the later less messy doing a quick bottle change.

Feisty Alice

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[FeistyAlice]

BTW.... One of my RM2s, on one Mini 2.0, does leak some with use unless I use the o-ring that Robert sends with them. I've been using same milled down RM2 on it so I don't know why it is different from the others. When I have the time I'll investigate.

Feisty Alice

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[rc10mike]

What I mean is the juice is not really "leakng" . The juice is pushed out through the catch cup and then spills up and over.

Ive flow before where nothing happened. If the plane has a good pressurization system, then nothing will happen.

 

[rudy4653]

I got a better idea!
Instead of all these new ideas and reinventing the wheel, how about going back to the basics and building WOODVILS!!!!

 

[bydus]

i think the leaking problem might be caused by side hole on most rebuildables for bottom feeders. Maybe you should give a ebaron dripper a shot ? It has an airhole in the connector and not on the side and can hold up to 15 drops of liquid so its essentialy a big carto

 

[Cjax]

um, a DNA 20 VW Grande?

 

[debzcf]

i think the leaking problem might be caused by side hole on most rebuildables for bottom feeders. Maybe you should give a ebaron dripper a shot ? It has an airhole in the connector and not on the side and can hold up to 15 drops of liquid so its essentialy a big carto

I have a EBaron Spiral on my Reo Mini 2.1. I must say, I prefer the RM2 (on my Grand). I haven't experienced leaking with either -- while the EBaron is very attractive, the flavor from the RM2 really hits the sweet spot (for me).

 

[rc10mike]

I tried RBAs already, I just cant get the right performance out of them. Im just using attys. Cartos are much more user friendly IMO, but they dont last long enough.

With cartos, my catch cup is ALWAYS dry, so I never have an issue with it leaking in my pocket. I use attys so theres always a little juice in the cup, which usually ends up on my pocket when I sit down.

Not trying to reinvent a wheel, just trying to put some ideas out there.

 

[debzcf]

I tried RBAs already, I just cant get the right performance out of them. Im just using attys. Cartos are much more user friendly IMO, but they dont last long enough.

With cartos, my catch cup is ALWAYS dry, so I never have an issue with it leaking in my pocket. I use attys so theres always a little juice in the cup, which usually ends up on my pocket when I sit down.

Not trying to reinvent a wheel, just trying to put some ideas out there.

Have you tried the Vapage AMG Hybrid Bottom Feeder attys? AMG Hybrid Bottom Feeder (2-pack) I used these prior to the buildables and never experienced any leaking.

 

[Justice]

There's no way for juice to get in the catch cup with a Rba. And I used regular Atties for close to 2 years with never any juice in my catchcup. If there's juice in yours your flooding by over squonking

 

[FeistyAlice]

i think the leaking problem might be caused by side hole on most rebuildables for bottom feeders. Maybe you should give a ebaron dripper a shot ? It has an airhole in the connector and not on the side and can hold up to 15 drops of liquid so its essentialy a big carto

I have several of both kinds including eBaron, Killer, Hornets, ERAs, macARBS, Surface, RM2s,and various clones. (More but won't list.) I haven't found the RBAs with holes in caps to be any more leaky than others unless I way over squonk.

And, BTW, I was out much of the day today, air temps ranging 99-100+, bright sunny day, and car parked, at times for 2 hours, no sun shield (I use it to cover valuables when out.) So inside temp of car probably close to 130F when I returned to car a couple of times after being 70s while driving. REO Mini 3/4 full with RM2 and short silica wick. NO LEAKING... PG/VG RATIO 50/50.

Feisty Alice

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[FeistyAlice]

There's no way for juice to get in the catch cup with a Rba. And I used regular Atties for close to 2 years with never any juice in my catchcup. If there's juice in yours your flooding by over squonking

I'll have to mildly disagree with this. As we know I have bunches of REOs, all types and sizes. My Black Wrinkle Mini 2.1 does leak from well a bit using RM2 and same juice I use in all the rest. I have to use kleenex many times a day to get up the small amount coming over well edge and NOT from the cap hole. Using the supplied o-ring stops it.

Point is not all center posts are set the same on REOs.

Feisty Alice



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[super_X_drifter]

I'll have to mildly disagree with this. As we know I have bunches of REOs, all types and sizes. My Black Wrinkle Mini 2.1 does leak from well a bit using RM2 and same juice I use in all the rest. I have to use kleenex many times a day to get up the small amount coming over well edge and NOT from the cap hole. Using the supplied o-ring stops it.

Point is not all center posts are set the same on REOs.

Feisty Alice



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Yep. Same here. A slightly stretched oring from the REO grand bottle cap placed in the catchcup before the RM2 is screwed on nice and tight with fix it right up though. No mo kleenexes needed

 

[biggerintx]

I will provide a third. My Reo Grand with RM2 will leak if I don't use the little o-ring. I lose the o-rings sometimes because I wash the RM2 without thinking about it and rinse the o-ring down the drain. I re-assemble sans o-ring and go about my day. It doesn't take long to learn of my mistake by the juice all over the top of the mod.

Now I will say I put the air-hole in the same place every time so without the o-ring the RM2 isnt' screwed all the way down, and my guess is that contributes. I've never tried to see if it leaks without the o-ring and screwed down tight but those air paths cut into the top of the connector look like they would allow juice out to me. I don't think about it much because it works fine with the o-ring. I just consider that part of the RM2.