super low ohms

[sidsthekid678]

hi i just built a 26ga twisted dual parallel coils in a royal hunter ontop a cherry bomber dual 18650 clone with magnets and all the other best upgrades other than a full copper box. the coil was a little thought i had since i wanted a warmer vape and its size is a litter smaller than a macro and larger than a micro. after hitting it a few times and the vape and button being almost too hot to keep vaping almost, i wanted to know what my ohms are and when i put it up to my multi meter i got a reading of .001. i didnt think that was possible and my friend brought over his rda tester and we got a reading of .000 so its not just my multi meter. my questions here are is this build safe and what batteries should i use if i should even be using this right now

i rebuilt the coils got the same reading its all connecting my multi meter makes a sound when its completeing a circuit

 

[KentA]

...after hitting it a few times and it being almost too hot to keep vaping almost...

What was hot-- the vapor or the battery?

Either way, I wouldn't put it near my face.

 

[sig-cmt]

Dual parallel 18650? Are these new cells? I would rebuild the coils to verify the resistance readings, perhaps adding in a few extra wraps to be safe. Tighten down your screw posts.

 

[sidsthekid678]

What was hot-- the vapor or the battery?

Either way, I wouldn't put it near my face.

it was the vape and the button. the button tends to get hot on the cherry bomber with lower ohm builds but its never been this hot. the batteries were fine

 

[sidsthekid678]

Dual parallel 18650? Are these new cells? I would rebuild the coils to verify the resistance readings, perhaps adding in a few extra wraps to be safe. Tighten down your screw posts.

yes its dual 18650. i combined two types of coils to make it heres what i combined

but i used 26 gauge

 

[KenD]

That's a short. You're lucky you didn't vent your batteries.

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[Wraith504]

Sounds like you have a short. Maybe its not the coils, but how they are placed, touching posts etc. or maybe its the rda/mod 510. Try building normal dual coils with the 26 or 28 gauge something around 8 wraps per coil and then take a reading with your multimeter

 

[sidsthekid678]

That's a short. You're lucky you didn't vent your batteries.

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turns out the meter for some reason my meter didnt read my rda. but just today i got an ipv4s and its reading at .132ohms so i guess if your looking for a simpleish low ohm build there you go

 

[sig-cmt]

Check the wrappers on your cells to verify their integrity.

 

[FSimon]

To answer your other question let's look at the facts a bit
Ohms law right? Okay so you have 18650s 2 of them.. in parallel. No 18650 on the market is 'safe' above a 20 amp continuous draw in the long run, you might get away with a few quick pulses higher than that here and there but it results in instant massive voltage drop soooo no.. don't believe the wraps on the rewraps!
That gives you 40-ish amps to play with right? Ohms law says that current draw equals voltage divided by resistance. Let's say your batteries are freshly charged so you have 4.2 volts ( I = U/R ==> 40 = 4.2 / ? ==> ? = 4.2/40 ==> ? = 0.105 ), so yea the absolute minimum build that I would say is 'theoretically safe' to vape on a paralell box is a .1 build, not counting the actual resistance of your mod and batteries (which is another story all-together).
I on the other hand wouldn't go below 0.3 on any mod for any reason (not counting temp control ofc). I'm sorry to say this and I hope I don't offend anyone but you just don't need to go lower. If you're not satisfied with the vape or cloud size at that point.. there are other options.

Hope that helped!
Cheers and stay safe!

 

[FSimon]

Anyway... didn't bother much with your definition of your coils when I replied.. but I just followed through
So what you're saying is that you twisted 2 strands of 26 AWG kanthal into a single wire.. you then made another twisted wire.. and used the two to make a parallel (2 strand) coil... then made another one of those coils.. and put them in dual-coil setup? Is that right?... Ouch...
Assuming you did that on a 3mm bit and assuming you made 4 wraps like Rip trippers in his video.. that would put you at around 0.08 ohms 52.5 amp draw.. and 220.5 watts... no wonder your button was hot, that's kinda like an explosion waiting to happen .
That's why one should never watch Rip Trippers coil tutorials without reading up on stuff first... and also the reason why I dislike him.. kinda irresponsible of him putting all that stuff out there without a proper disclaimer, think of all the people who might try the same based on his videos
For your own safety I advise you to rethink that build a bit I'm pretty sure there is something out there that can be a satisfying vape but at the same time far less dangerous.

In the meantime keep on vaping (but not at 220w pls) and stay safe!

 

[Salt&PePPer]

To answer your other question let's look at the facts a bit
Ohms law right? Okay so you have 18650s 2 of them.. in parallel. No 18650 on the market is 'safe' above a 20 amp continuous draw in the long run, you might get away with a few quick pulses higher than that here and there but it results in instant massive voltage drop soooo no.. don't believe the wraps on the rewraps!
That gives you 40-ish amps to play with right? Ohms law says that current draw equals voltage divided by resistance. Let's say your batteries are freshly charged so you have 4.2 volts ( I = U/R ==> 40 = 4.2 / ? ==> ? = 4.2/40 ==> ? = 0.105 ), so yea the absolute minimum build that I would say is 'theoretically safe' to vape on a paralell box is a .1 build, not counting the actual resistance of your mod and batteries (which is another story all-together).
I on the other hand wouldn't go below 0.3 on any mod for any reason (not counting temp control ofc). I'm sorry to say this and I hope I don't offend anyone but you just don't need to go lower. If you're not satisfied with the vape or cloud size at that point.. there are other options.

Hope that helped!
Cheers and stay safe!

I was going to say the builder is going to want to up the Continuous Amp's on the Batteries.

AMPS
AMPS
AMPS
The one component of electricity people overlook. Not saying the OP doesn't know what he is doing but a lot, too many, people really don't understand what is going on when they hit that fire button.

This msg isn't directed at anyone. So just Chill Out, relax and have a vape!

 

[MadVLN]

if you're building that low. you shouldn't have to ask anyone if it's safe. you should know what is safe and do your builds accordingly.

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

@sidsthekid678 i need to point something out to you!

The Big Copper ring you see inside the Cherry Bomber has a tendency to spin and contact the fire button and will auto fire!

When screwing on or off an rda the brass 510 connector your rda sits on will spin and will in turn spin that copper ring.

Always take out your batteries to screw on or off your rda and then check everything is still tight before installing them back in.

For peace of mind i always have a flathead screwdriver on me when im using the cherrybomber, then atleast you can unscrew the batteries(turn off the power).

You can also buy one of these to screw onto it and leave it installed and it will save any chance of spin--> $3.34 Kepler 510 Finned Heat Sink for Atomizers - aluminum / 22mm diameter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

 

[vapdivrr]

its not the mod, batterys, 510, etc, its simply cause your building to close to a dead short which doesn't leave room for error. you said you started vaping and then your lips started to melt, and THEN you were curious about the resistance? and then decided to check the resistance? maybe im reading your OP incorrectly, and excuse me if I am, but you didn't know the resistance before hand? and if your multimeter read the coil close to a dead short, then why would you continue my friend? honestly, with an unregulated device, imo you simply should go that low . seriously, if your posting a question asking if this coil is safe or not, you really shouldn't be diving into something as potentially dangerous as what your describing. I am sorry to be so blunt about my comments, but I just don't want anyone to get hurt, or for anyone reading the OP, to try the same thing without absolute knowledge of what they are doing first. good luck my friend and be safe

 

[The_Nom]

Te be completely honest, the only accurate way to measure ohms that low to be truely accuate in the room for error to avoid dead shorts is a proper 4 lead meter . Honestly, I VERY rarely trust the built in resistance meters on mods as is.

 

[edyle]

its not the mod, batterys, 510, etc, its simply cause your building to close to a dead short which doesn't leave room for error. you said you started vaping and then your lips started to melt, and THEN you were curious about the resistance? and then decided to check the resistance? maybe im reading your OP incorrectly, and excuse me if I am, but you didn't know the resistance before hand? and if your multimeter read the coil close to a dead short, then why would you continue my friend? honestly, with an unregulated device, imo you simply should not go that low . seriously, if your posting a question asking if this coil is safe or not, you really shouldn't be diving into something as potentially dangerous as what your describing. I am sorry to be so blunt about my comments, but I just don't want anyone to get hurt, or for anyone reading the OP, to try the same thing without absolute knowledge of what they are doing first. good luck my friend and be safe

left out the word "not" there.

 

[vapdivrr]

left out the word "not" there.

Thank you my friend, your correct

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