Super-ohming?

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Norrin

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Well I decided to try a 4 ohm so got my 0.15 Kathal and steam engined it, 13 wraps on a 2mm so I went ahead and did it....8.2 ohms ... oh had it set to dual coil:facepalm: so on my vamo it vapes but badly and even on my 8.4V mech it's pretty bad not even a good coil for flavour but I suppose at 8.6W it's a bit cold, bit better with less air but will bin this might try a 4 ohm tomorrow.
 

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With all the recent high powered mods, I'm sure we'll see a whole lot more high resistance builds.

Sort of... maybe. For folks who don't wish to hit the higher power levels high ohm coils will work. Most of the big power boxes have voltage limitations which dictate sub-ohm builds to hit the big watts. For example, on the Sigelei 100 a 2ohm coil would hit the voltage ceiling at around 36W. A 3ohm build would max out at 24W.
 

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I bet that if you double your wattage, you should be able to double the ohms on our build (with the same wire gauge) and still get a decent vape. Perhaps even more vapor, but the wicking time (letting the setup sit so the wick gets wet enough for the next time) could also double or more and I wouldn't expect taste to go up.
 

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This is 32 awg kanthal 11 wraps each with 2mm ecowool & 1/16" cable. The voltage drops to 8.0 volts . Vapes very well with excellent flavor.
 

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Ive been thinking about this alot lately. The market is flooded with high wattage devices and people for some reason think they have to sub-ohm. Im not sure about 4 ohm's but I do believe that a dual coil set up in the 1.5 to 2 ohm range is pretty sweet.

Again, for folks who want to take advantage of max power on these devices sub-ohm builds are the only way to achieve it.
 

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Yes to get the full 200W+ you need to sub -ohm but that doesn't mean you get a good vape and 50W at around 1.5 ohms will be a good vape with most decent atties.

No one is saying you can't get a good vape at those levels. However, there seems to be some misconception that these devices will fire a 1.0ohm+ coil at all power levels. To get the 80W I like to drip at, the coil must be .9ohm or less on my Sigelei. I'm not debating the merits of vaping at any particular level, just stating the limitations inherent to these high power regulated devices.
 

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Again, for folks who want to take advantage of max power on these devices sub-ohm builds are the only way to achieve it.

Yup, it's because they don't go high enough in voltage. But that's changing and I think as more people understand the advantage to higher resistance, high power builds the market will accommodate this more and more.
 

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Yup, it's because they don't go high enough in voltage. But that's changing and I think as more people understand the advantage to higher resistance, high power builds the market will accommodate this more and more.
We can only hope......well maybe, the DNA 40 route is another good option the only problem is that you either have to build your own or it will be introducing silly low ohm coils to a public which won't have enough sense to use them just on these devices.
 

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We can only hope......well maybe, the DNA 40 route is another good option the only problem is that you either have to build your own or it will be introducing silly low ohm coils to a public which won't have enough sense to use them just on these devices.

I don't think it will be all that dangerous Norrin. A 0.1 ohm setup makes about 100 watts at the coil in a mech mod and it's setup for 40w max. I would think that would pop the coil pretty quick. If it didn't pop the coil, battery draw would be 42A at 4.2v. I would expect the vape to be quite burnt so it would be evident there was a problem and any good 20A battery should handle one or two instances of 42A discharge for a few seconds. Of course is someone keeps hitting it, all bets are off :facepalm:

I guess time will tell.
 
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