Temperature Control - Am I doing it wrong

[Joey2x4]

Been vaping for a while now and after reading how great TC is, I made the plunge and bought a Vaporshark rDAN 40 and waited for the Lemo 2 before doing any TC coils. I was not that impressed honestly. I used 28 gauge wire, the only stuff my local vape shop had on hand and made an 8 wrap coil keeping uniform spacing by "flossing" the coil with a piece of 24 Gauge Kanthal. I set the temp at 450 to try it out and not impressed

So Am I doing it wrong?

 

[Susan~S]

Hello and welcome to the forum. Glad to have you here!

Are you using nickel wire to build your coils?

 

[Das Auto]

What were you expecting?

450 temp is how many Watts? What is your coil resistance? Not familiar with the Lemo 2, is it a Dual or Single Coil?
Did you try it at a Lower temp and a Higher Temp?

 

[justinlm24]

First off you can't run kanthal in temp control. It has to be nickel wire. I assume you used nickel wire. Do you understand what temp control does? You say you weren't impressed, well like Das auto said, what exactly are you expecting to get?

 

[larspMuc]

Did you try your Lemo 2 with a standard coil first before you tried a TC coil so that you know what to expect from the atty in terms of taste and general performance?
When I buy a new atty that I don't know yet I first give it a test flight with a build I know how to make before diving into TC. That way I know what to expect from it.

 

[Joey2x4]

I used Nickel Wire, the Kanthal was just used to "floss" the coil, run the Kanthal between the coils similar to flossing your teeth to ensure spacing between the wire is uniform. The coil was a .12 Ohm coil.

The lemo 2 is a single coil atty, and I did build it with both regular 26 Gauge Kanthal, and I also used SquareOhm wire. SquareOhm is like the name states, Square Kanthal.

My understanding is that the Temp Control will just limit the temperature to no produce dry hits etc. Every one says how great the flavor production is and how wonderful it is. I did not notice a difference in flavor or cloud production. The only benefit I would see is possibly extending the battery life of my mod.

 

[mesamay2003]

The two main benefits of TC vaping are limiting the temperature if you are concerned about the potential breakdown of the liquid into potentially harmful subtstances and preventing dry/burnt hits...this assumes you are setting the temp/wattage appropriately. I would not say that flavor improvement is a real benefit. I would say, in general, given those two goals that TC vaping is a cooler and slightly different experience to traditional kanthal wattage mode...

 

[nyiddle]

I used Nickel Wire, the Kanthal was just used to "floss" the coil, run the Kanthal between the coils similar to flossing your teeth to ensure spacing between the wire is uniform. The coil was a .12 Ohm coil.

The lemo 2 is a single coil atty, and I did build it with both regular 26 Gauge Kanthal, and I also used SquareOhm wire. SquareOhm is like the name states, Square Kanthal.

My understanding is that the Temp Control will just limit the temperature to no produce dry hits etc. Every one says how great the flavor production is and how wonderful it is. I did not notice a difference in flavor or cloud production. The only benefit I would see is possibly extending the battery life of my mod.

Hm, I don't know anyone who touts the DNA40 as having particularly good vapor production. The only benefit I hear of is the lack of dry hits/the ability to vape a wick clean.

 

[RandyF]

Many people will disagree with this, but I have not found an RTA that I enjoy nickel builds on, and yes, to everyone that might ask, I know exactly how to build nickel coils. RTA's, or most atty's for that matter, are just not designed to be used with nickel. Ni coils are far to finicky, and everything has to come together almost perfectly for them to work correctly, something that can be a challenge in an RTA. It isn't impossible, by any means, but it usually leads to more frustration than enjoyment.

My choice for utilizing temperature control is in an RDA (the Holmes V2 is my current go to), specifically one with a 2 post design to accommodate the larger coil you are going to need to build. With an RDA you have much more control over the contributing factors (airflow and wicking) that TC needs to work correctly.

With my Holmes I build a 26g 14wrap around a 6-32 machine screw and it fits in the posts perfectly. I think it ohm's out at about .13 if I remember correctly and I can vape it at 40watts without hitting TP.

 

[nikolis2000]

well avoiding dry hits is not a minor thing.I m builting my kfl+ with NI200 and when i put thicker liquids i see the temp protection msg everytime i chain vaping and the feeding doenst manage to keep up.So instead of burning my coil and tasting it i can say im vaping safer.Another thing is when i use dripper (ex magma) i drop 10-15 drops and i vape.When i also get the temp protection msg i know i need to drop more juice so no more guessing no more burnt cotton.You can get huge vapor production if you put 400 watts and 600f .But these numbers only on dripper.on tank you need more "normal" settings

 

[Joey2x4]

Thanks for the replies, I actually just pre-ordered the Segeli 75w box that is TC as well. I can't charge the Vaporshark through USB any more as the port got destroyed. I prefer tanks (only rebuild-able) over RDA's though I do have both, the portability of a tank makes them the winner in my book, to each their own though. I have been using my UD Goliath, and have been very impressed with it's wicking due to 4 massive cutouts to the juice well. So I have not had dry hits on it at all. Basically it looks like TC is probably not for me then. I just had to try it since I had a TC capable mod and read how great it was. My normal coils are usually clocking in at around .4 ohms, nothing special, no coil porn or anything, just need to get the nicotine.