hi guys how's it going? Hope everyone had a great weekend!! So I been vaping the tf-r1 that came with my smok tfv4, the coil was already installed all I had to do was wick it. It's reading a.74 resistance. The guys at my Vap shope said I could Vap this at 35-50 watts! They're crazy I'm at 35 watts and getting a slight burning taste. Not much for flavor either I find? Are rba's typically better for flavor than pre built coils? I was thinking of picking up the dual coil RBA for the Smok tank that would produce more flavor no? Thanks!
Tfva single RBA vs Dual RBA
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The dual coil could have more surface area, require higher wattages and vaporize more juice than the single coil.
I have three TFV4's in rotation (two full size and one mini) and while I have two R2 decks to use I prefer the single coil deck over the dual.
I suppose I've been spoiled with real RTA's and Volicity style build decks to want to mess with the sillyness of the TFV4's dual coil build deck.
YMMV.
I have three TFV4's in rotation (two full size and one mini) and while I have two R2 decks to use I prefer the single coil deck over the dual.
I suppose I've been spoiled with real RTA's and Volicity style build decks to want to mess with the sillyness of the TFV4's dual coil build deck.
YMMV.
@GeorgeS Thanks for your reply. So according to your description the dual coil (r2) would sound like it would produce more flavor no? Any reason why you prefer the single coil over the dual coil? Also do Rebuidable coils produce better flavor than stock or prebuilt coils? So far I been vaping the crown with the .25 coils and .5 and find that flavor hard to beat. The tfva quad coil comes close and I heard the triple coil produces more even more flavor, The RBA side is starting to interest me a bit and if they produce better flavor then that will be all I need to make the switch 
It has to do with design, I find it that the more restrictive coils with longer drip tips produce the most concentrated flavor, sort of like Kayfun, where as those with lots of air like RDA's produce more vapor but have a high chance of muting flavor. Also different coil types, claptons are known flavor enhancers.
A small chamber and tight chimney/drip tip only permits a smaller amount of "vape" to rise. If the airflow is tight, then the coil heated flavor is prioritized to go up the chimney. More flavor.
But, letting less air get into the mix doesn't help to cool the hot coil. To me, less air equals flavor and heat and more air equals cooler, and more cloud. Just what I have noticed.
I really don't think a topper can do both well. It is just what the user wants and/or accepts.
I really look at the chamber/chimney design. IMHO
But, letting less air get into the mix doesn't help to cool the hot coil. To me, less air equals flavor and heat and more air equals cooler, and more cloud. Just what I have noticed.
I really don't think a topper can do both well. It is just what the user wants and/or accepts.
I really look at the chamber/chimney design. IMHO
@Frenchfry1942 thanks so much. What do you mean by a topper? An RBA tank?
@GeorgeS Thanks for your reply. So according to your description the dual coil (r2) would sound like it would produce more flavor no? Any reason why you prefer the single coil over the dual coil? Also do Rebuidable coils produce better flavor than stock or prebuilt coils? So far I been vaping the crown with the .25 coils and .5 and find that flavor hard to beat. The tfva quad coil comes close and I heard the triple coil produces more even more flavor, The RBA side is starting to interest me a bit and if they produce better flavor then that will be all I need to make the switch
First off, I've never used any of the "stock" coils. They mostly got tossed when I opened the packages. While I mostly vape pure unflavored juice, the TFV4 is not build/known for its 'flavor' but rather for the insanely high wattage cloud chucking abilities.
Simply purchase a "R2" and you'll quickly see some of my issues with it. One set of screws for BOTH coils. A little bit "fiddly" for my tastes. Since the TFV4 is designed for 'high power' the screws need to have larger wire than I generally like to use to be able to capture.
Personally I can get more than enough vapor production for my needs out of the R1 so my two R2's get little if any use.
While I have a number of true RTA's with dual coil builds in rotation, they all have 'volicity style' decks. One example is sporting 30AWG ribbon wire. (something I was easily able to install in the R1 by wrapping the wire around the screws)
If you already have an R1 why not try some builds on it? You might surprise yourself at how well/good it works for you.
@GeorgeS thanks for your reply! So far the stock coils are performing better I've tried the quad and triple and getting better flavor! As far as rba's go I've only used the tf-r1 and the tf-r2 with the pre installed coil that comes with them I used bacon cotton to wick them with and the cotton Smok provided. I was quite disappointed with the taste, I'm guessing the pre made coils on the tf-r1 and tf-r2 are garbage? So you seem to go in the same direction as another member here mentioned that single coil builds are best for flavor? I also am not really concerned on cloud production but more so flavorFirst off, I've never used any of the "stock" coils. They mostly got tossed when I opened the packages. While I mostly vape pure unflavored juice, the TFV4 is not build/known for its 'flavor' but rather for the insanely high wattage cloud chucking abilities.
Simply purchase a "R2" and you'll quickly see some of my issues with it. One set of screws for BOTH coils. A little bit "fiddly" for my tastes. Since the TFV4 is designed for 'high power' the screws need to have larger wire than I generally like to use to be able to capture.
Personally I can get more than enough vapor production for my needs out of the R1 so my two R2's get little if any use.
While I have a number of true RTA's with dual coil builds in rotation, they all have 'volicity style' decks. One example is sporting 30AWG ribbon wire. (something I was easily able to install in the R1 by wrapping the wire around the screws)
If you already have an R1 why not try some builds on it? You might surprise yourself at how well/good it works for you.
Also I'm thinking I'm going to buy a true RBA deck. I was told at my vape shop that the griffin as some of the best flavor production and also the tornado pictured above what do you guys think? What would be the best RBA tank for a beginner with good flavor? Or should I stick with the tf-r1 and r2 but recoil them with different wire ?
To me it is a bit of a juggling act with elements I don't fully understand.
there's a whole whooping bunch of stuff to consider. How much (if any) each thing (and others not mentioned) effect the flavor I can't say but I'm sure others will chime in with their thoughts.
- some say the shape of the chamber and top (domed or otherwise) can effect flavor
- some mention that the air path and how restricted (or not) has an effect
- the temperature of the coil and the resulting vapor has an effect on the flavor
- then there's the coil(s), I always thought dual or more equated to more surface area and better flavor
- number of windings? ID?
there's a whole whooping bunch of stuff to consider. How much (if any) each thing (and others not mentioned) effect the flavor I can't say but I'm sure others will chime in with their thoughts.
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