That "clean, pure, smooth, velvety, oxygen-like sensation" -- just what the heck IS that??

[Shizzle]

....i'm in love with whatever it is.

Ecopure has it, as well as several of Backwoods Brew's (including Malty, Malty Toffee and Dulce De Leche), and Want2Vape's Ecoberry....any idea what ingredient that is??

contrary to previous threads about this, i know it has absolutely nothing to do with the PG, VG, nicotine or ethyl maltol. there's *something* extra in these liquids that makes them "luxurious"...darn it, I WANNA KNOW WHAT IT IS!!! any ideas??

and/or, do you know of any other brands/flavors that have this quality to them?...that is, if you have any idea as to what i'm even talking about.



(btw, i posted this question earlier in the general discussion area, but it was suggested that i post it here, as DIYr's are likely to be more knowledgeable about the subject)

 

[Hoosier]

How are you certain it has nothing to do with the PG/VG/EM?

Enlighten an ignorant Hoosier?

 

[Shizzle]

How are you certain it has nothing to do with the PG/VG/EM?

Enlighten an ignorant Hoosier?

well, um....because, you see, Sir Hoosier, i have ESP??


okay, okay, i don't know for SURE for sure...but i know for sure kinda-sorta?!

 

[Heracleum]

Hmmm perhaps the high purity percentage of its components?

 

[Hoosier]

Hmmm perhaps the high purity percentage of its components?

Yeah, not that I've been DIY'ing very long, or know much about it, but I have found the thing the OP posted about when I use very pure and fresh components and enough EM to give it body.

 

[Michele]

....i'm in love with whatever it is.

Ecopure has it, as well as several of Backwoods Brew's (including Malty, Malty Toffee and Dulce De Leche), and Want2Vape's Ecoberry....any idea what ingredient that is??

contrary to previous threads about this, i know it has absolutely nothing to do with the PG, VG, nicotine or ethyl maltol. there's *something* extra in these liquids that makes them "luxurious"...darn it, I WANNA KNOW WHAT IT IS!!! any ideas??

and/or, do you know of any other brands/flavors that have this quality to them?...that is, if you have any idea as to what i'm even talking about.



(btw, i posted this question earlier in the general discussion area, but it was suggested that i post it here, as DIYr's are likely to be more knowledgeable about the subject)

Heck....I didn't even know that existed! I want some of that!

 

[Shizzle]

Yeah, not that I've been DIY'ing very long, or know much about it, but I have found the thing the OP posted about when I use very pure and fresh components and enough EM to give it body.

ok, i've changed my mind: i'm now "pretty darn sure" that it's not the PG, VG, or the nicotine (because i buy my stuff from one of the top vendors as per the regular posters of this here DIY forum ) -- and i don't get that sensation at all...however, it *could* be ethyl maltol...

but ya see, the thing is, everyone always says that cotton candy juice is made from ethyl maltol...yet, every single cotton candy juice i've ever tried (and i've tried far too many than i can really afford) *doesn't* have this quality about it...

and i don't really like the idea of making my own ethyl maltol liquid from ethyl maltol crystals, as it sounds like it's kinda hit or miss and i'd much rather pay someone to make it the right way every time for me (translation: Shizzle is extremely lazy)....

YET, i've also read where someone posted that those who do sell the concentrated version (either listed as cotton candy flavoring or ethyl maltol liquid), don't make it nearly strong enough....so, now to finally get to my question(!): do you have any recommendations on where to get good quality, liquid ethyl maltol?

 

[Kurt]

Perhaps they add a little PGA. That would add this quality. It did when I was using it in DIYs. I don't use it anymore, however, as it dried me out too much.

 

[Hoosier]

Ah, EM is different.

A little adds body. (Richness...fullness)

A bit more adds some body and some sweetness.

A larger chunk makes cotton candy flavor.

Note the differences... It's a balancing act as each flavor combination needs different amounts of EM for the full body effect.

At least that is the way it works for me. I just use TPA's Cotton Candy flavoring because it's consistant and easy and I can order it with something else and save $ on shipping.

Because of that balance thing, I'm fairly sure what you are looking for is a combination of things and not a single component. (I have one recipe that needs to be mixed a very certain way to work. I spent 5 months working on the thing and discovered the process by accident and have enjoyed that juice ever since.)

 

[Shizzle]

someone mentioned it possibly being MTS Vape Wizard....i looked up the description of it, and it sounded plausible, as it seems similar to what i've tried to describe:

"MTS vape wizard contributes toward softening any acidic/sour perception, it assists in making vapour thicker, and it delivers both body and depth to any e-liquid." -- and i also happened to notice that one of the vendors i'd mentioned in my first post, buys some of their supplies from Liberty Flights, who just so happens to sell vape wizard!...coincidence??

anyone ever try MTS Vape Wizard?

 

[Hoosier]

...
anyone ever try MTS Vape Wizard?

Yep, another handy tool when working on balancing flavors.

Also good for helping fruit flavors taste less like Dum-Dum suckers and more like fruit while adding vapor.

 

[cookiebun]

I've got some but haven't used it yet.
I do some experimenting this weekend when my feet aren't killing me.

 

[Shizzle]

Yep, another handy tool when working on balancing flavors.

Also good for helping fruit flavors taste less like Dum-Dum suckers and more like fruit while adding vapor.

but does it happen to add a "clean, pure, smooth, velvety, oxygen-like sensation"?

 

[Shizzle]

I've got some but haven't used it yet.
I do some experimenting this weekend when my feet aren't killing me.

excellent -- i'll be forever grateful if you would report back with your findings!....hope your feet start feeling better soon (for your sake *and* mine! )

 

[Hoosier]

but does it happen to add a "clean, pure, smooth, velvety, oxygen-like sensation"?

Nope.

I can't see a single ingredient doing that anyway though.

 

[Shizzle]

Nope.

I can't see a single ingredient doing that anyway though.

darn.

but thanks so much for taking the time to respond with all of your informative posts!! -- i just placed an order for mts vape wizard, ethyl maltol crystals, ethyl maltol liquid, 3 concentrated cotton candy flavorings, 2 more cotton candy juices, and some other funky thing i just read about, called Koolada Kool....

now, with ^all that^ (and about a year's time), i've GOTTA be able to figure out what that secret ingredient/combo of ingredients is....right?!

(omg, Mr. Shizzle is gonna go *totally* ballistic if he sees this order on our bank statement ....i promised him i'd stop with 5 orders this month...oops...but hey, this is the LAST one...i swear...wait...unless anyone can think of something else i should get?? )

THANKS AGAIN!!

 

[Hoosier]

Well, it looks like you are off to a start.

I know I started looking for one flavor. Now I have a drawer unit 2'x2'x4' that is just DIY components... And I still "lose" flavorings that I get to discover over and over again.

 

[Nikhil]

Are you sure it's not the VG diluted with water? I believe those liquids you mentioned have a high VG content with a high water dilution, but I could be mistaken.

 

[Michele]

..........sorry moved this thread

 

[Tasteles]

I could be wrong, but I thought Malt flavoring was in all those?