The “Molicel P30A” battery doesn’t exist! It‘s an Efest creation.

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Mooch

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    Some web sites were selling a “Molicel P30A” 20700 in what looks like a Molicel OEM wrap but I am told by NPE, global distributor for E-One Moli to the vaping community, that there is no such cell.

    Efest created this “P30A” by taking cells with plain wraps and printing “MOLICEL INR-20700-P30A” on them. E-One Moli is developing a P30A but it is an 18650 and won’t be available for at least a year.

    Efest’s Alibaba pages had this cell listed too, as recently as August 27th

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    I contacted Efest about this. They got angry and frustrated with me that they had to talk about this. Umm...I don’t frakkin’ care.

    Efest took plain wrap cells, made up a model number, and made the cells look like original-wrapped Molicels. There was no indication on the wrap that this cell was printed up by Efest. They say it’s the Molicel INR20700A but I cannot confirm that.

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    This cell has been available since at least January 2019 and Efest had no problem selling it for months on their Alibaba pages and had no problem with vendors selling it either.

    But a few hours after I tell them I am going to post about this cell they have an apology posted and they remove the “P30A” cell from their Alibaba pages. Hmm....

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    As far as I’m concerned Efest has learned nothing from this incident and would still be selling this “P30A” if they weren’t confronted. Seems like it’s still business as usual at Efest...try to get away with doing something but if we get caught then apologize and hope it all goes away.

    VENDORS: I’d be very interested in hearing what Efest told you, and didn’t tell you, about this cell. Anything we discuss will be kept strictly confidential unless you say it’s okay to reveal.

    My sincere thanks to the member of Aussie Geek Vaper's "vape Club" (and who prefers to remain anonymous) who spotted this cell for sale on an Australian web site and contacted me!
     
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    @Mooch Like you said, its still business as usual at Efest. :rolleyes:

    I really thought that upper management at Efest was making a turnaround after you called them out for their grossly over-rated battery specifications and they began to be more truthful about their battery specs. But this incident is showing they haven't learned their lesson from the past. This company has absolutely no integrity.

    Wrapping an unknown cell with your own brand's wrap and grossly exaggerating its specifications is one thing, but actually counterfeiting another manufacturer's battery is another.

    I've rarely recommended an Efest battery except for when there were no other button top options available. I really like their Efest LUC chargers, but out of spite I just may drop Efest from ANY of my recommendations from now on.

    I NEVER recommend Alibaba as a vendor, since I saw recently that they were still offering AW batteries for sale. Andrew Wan of AW Batteries warned years ago that all of the AW batteries being sold at Alibaba were counterfeits. And as I'm sure that you are aware, the AW factory plant shut down years ago after a terrible flood and will probably never make a return.

    This pisses me off. :mad:

    Thank you Mooch for providing this information to the vape community. You are our Consumer Reporter.
     
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