The $35 VV Wonder

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captcpu

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My first PV mod review! Woot! (I'm vaping this guy at 5V right now with Iken vape's RY4... man, RY4 never tasted this good. Wow.)

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I like to try all sorts of different juices. And cartos. And attys. And any other sort of vaping paraphernalia I can get my hands on. I also like to review and report on those vaping adventures and, for comparison purposes, consistency is important.


So, I set out on an educational journey to find a device that would provide a solid and reliable base for my vaping experiments. The fine and helpful folks a ECF provided a ton of feedback and suggestions that made that task a lot easier. While I've settled on my next "big boy" PV, it wasn't available at the time. Something relatively inexpensive to play with in the meantime seemed to fit the bill.


I settled on the Mad Vapes Variable Voltage (VV) Box Mod. Settled is probably not the right word here. Lucked out and ended up with a rocking little vaping box would be a bit more accurate.


For $35.


Yes, U.S. dollars. Thirty five of them. Not a typo.


The box itself is a pretty darn simple affair. I don't want this to sound like I'm about to give a bad review, but it ain't fancy. It's a cheap 3xAAA battery holder with a pot, a VV circuit, some hookup wire and a 510 connection glued on to it. If you were electronically inclined, you could probably slap one together in less than an hour. In fact, Mad Vapes sells the parts to do just that, if you like.



The guts of the little beast.


What that cheap little box does, though, is phenomenal.


The MV VV takes two 14500 3.6V protected rechargeable batteries for up to 7V of vaping goodness. Yeah, it's got a 510 connection (which is great for most folks), but MV also sells a handy converter for 808/901 vaping that works perfectly with the mod.

The dial for the voltage is a small plastic affair with screwdriver slots for turning it up and down. I find the screwdriver isn't really necessary. It'll turn just fine with your thumb. You can fiddle with testing the voltage using a mutlimeter, but it's easier to just start low and turn it up until you hit your sweet spot. It's easy to use and no hassle at all. The dial is also recessed and has a good resistance to it, so I haven't had any trouble with it coming off my chosen voltage while I hold it or when I shove it in my pocket.


The fire button is a little nubby thing, so it's not the epitome of comfort.

Another view of the guts of the Mad Vapes VV Box Mod.
It is off to the side instead of in the middle, which really wasn't a problem at all. The box form factor, though, can be a minor quibble point. To pick at the nit: when I'm driving and vape with my right hand (I grew up driving a stick, so I drive with my left) I'm constantly having to flip it over to hit the button with my forefinger. At the computer vaping left-handed I can just thumb it, which I prefer. I guess the only way around that would be to have a button on both sides, which isn't really practical. Round will be the way to go on the next VV mod, most likely.



More serious, after a few days of use, the button also started sticking. That causes the PV to continue firing after releasing the button.

There's a master on/off switch to kill power and avoid accidental button presses. However, having to constantly switch off the master switch and then switch it back on when I want to take a puff is kind of a pain. Unfortunately, I don't see anyway to get at the button because the whole thing is sealed up with hot glue. (see pics) I quickly got the hang of remembering to flip the master switch when I was done vaping after it nearly burned a hole in my leg. Ouch.



So, the problem with the button aside...


This thing rocks. Hard. Really hard.


Here's a run down of some of the trials thus far:


With a 510 Dual Coil carto it hits like a truck. This also sucks the little batteries dry in a couple hours, though. Works great all the way up to about 4.2V. Beyond that the TH and heat get a little too much for me.


On a 510 LR carto it was about the same, but all the way down to 3.4V it performed nicely. Much better battery life and the box kept the power going nice and even right to the end. I prefer it a little higher, so I was hitting it at around 4V. When the battery did die, the box just stopped. It stayed at a constant voltage from start to finish. Exactly what I was looking for.


A regular Kanger 808 was simply awesome because of the ability to play with it. Starting at 3.8V and getting a smooth, even flavor and nice vapor. Then bumping it up all the way to 5V where it the TH got harsh and the flavor dropped. In between was an amazing array of TH, flavor and vapor with each setting being remarkable different.


I had similar result with an Iken Vape LR Mega 808 except that it just delivered cleaner and more consistently. The MV VV powered it just fine right up to the high 4V range.


The voltage dial and the fire button.
I have to admit, though, that my favorite experiment, so far, has been with high voltage. I bought an Iken Vape Stealth series 3.5 Ohm HV 901 atomizer and cranked the MV VV all the way up.


Okay, that just about took the top of my skull off... but backing it down to 6V and then also at 5V was one of those red letter moments for a vaper. The flavor and plumes of vapor are pretty overwhelming. Everything I've dripped into it just pops like I've never vaped before. Freakin' amazing.


What I learned is that VV vaping is not the sort of thing you do because you like a particular juice or you want to substitute for a cig, or just to get a nic fix, or something along those lines. VV is a way to experience all the nuances and enjoyment that vaping can be. It's not a means to an end, it's an experience.


It's not a pretty mod. It's not fancy. It's not even high quality construction, though it's certainly solid. But for 35 bucks, some batteries and a charger, the Mad Vapes VV Box Mod makes that experience something that any vapor can try for themselves without making a major investment.

Sure, I'll move on to a bigger, fancier, sexier, and way more expensive VV mod. But I guarantee those little 14500 bats will stay charged and the MV VV will be in my kit for as long as it continues to fire.


Angel's Luck & Electric Dreams,
Capt
 

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Thanks gang and yeah, I guess I kinda went to church with that one... heh! But I'm very impressed with what you can get for $35 from MV. I did order one of their 3.7V box mod kits, as well, and it was quite easy to put together and vapes fine with LR cartos. Fits in the hand for a little stealth vaping, too!
 

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Glad you got one, demon! Yup, still sold out... hmmm.... there's a notify service if anyone wants one. Hope you like it! Just be careful... it's already led my wallet into dangerous territory. That low price can, apparently, be deceptive. Must. Have. More. Juice/Atties/Mods.
 

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Well I picked the last one up this past week and am having some problems with it. I think it's voltage vs carto type. It won't fire my Boge 2.0 cartos unless it's turned down low. It will fire up the dcc but only works for a few hits and then shuts down. I have to turn it off and start again. It fires a std resistance carto no problem but they taste terrible at HV. So is there something wrong with mine or is this normal due to a protective circuit or what? I really not clear about all that. I'm using the Ultrafire protected batteries that MV sells for this model, and with all the raves about this box I figured I must be doing something wrong with the type of cartos I'm using.
 

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I really like it with a 2.5 ohm 901 on an avidvapor stealth adapter at 4.5V. It looks strange but a madvapes DOD (it doen't autofeed well) is great for no aim dripping on this thing. Made for a great 10 hour car trip the other day. For me, this was just to dip my toe in the VV pool before diving in. Now I have to decide whether to buy a buzz or to build something. This box is definitely worth the price though.
 

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Yes, I figured out my problems. First off I dug out the Fluke and checked the batteries. They were ok. Then I checked the voltage at different points on the wheel. I discovered that I had it turned up way too high for the 2.0 Boges and now know about where on the dial things are. I also checked into battery quality and ordered 2 AWs. But my big surprize for the day was trying my new Blue Lightning tube mod at 6V, OMG combined with an xxl dcc it hits like a truck. And the juice still takes great, at least the stuff I have in the carto now. But for the money the MV VV is a great buy, just wish they had some markings on the dial to approximate voltage levels.
 

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This is definitely worth the money. Got one from their last sale and couldn't be happier. I run my Gold V2's from IKV on it at about 5V and it hits like a dream. Although, it does eat juice though. Bought this for the exact same reason as others. Wanted to try out a cheap VV before moving on. Waiting for my VV Army Tank V2 to get finished now.
 

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How long are your batteries lasting with the MV VV box? I'm having a problem with my batts I think. Geez, they are only lasting me about 15 to 20 hits and then they are drained. That's not good. Something is wrong, not sure what yet. Especially when peeps are telling me their batts are lasting most of the day before draining. I'll know more when the AWs get here. If it's not the batteries then there is something wrong with the internals in my unit. Wouldn't be the first time though, I always manage to get the problem units.
 

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What voltage are you usually at. You can give it a wild guess since it doesn't have a display on it and not sure if you got a voltage meter (don't have one myself yet). My opinion is that the higher the voltage the faster it drains.

Although, it should DEFINITELY last longer than 15-20 hits. It might be that your batteries are faulty.
 

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What voltage are you usually at. You can give it a wild guess since it doesn't have a display on it and not sure if you got a voltage meter (don't have one myself yet). My opinion is that the higher the voltage the faster it drains.

Although, it should DEFINITELY last longer than 15-20 hits. It might be that your batteries are faulty.

Yep, it's the Ultrafire batteries. The AW's came in the other day and now I'm getting several hours before they drain. I'm going to use the AWs exclusively from now on. The unit seems to work fine now. With my dccs I usually set it around 4.5 or so, my juice tends to taste best at that voltage. I'm just not getting the 6V vaping. None of my juice tastes good at that voltage except for the Key Lime Pie. Everything else looses it's taste, although the amount of vapor is huge.
 

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I quit analogs at 3.7V but was teetering towards the end. By chance, I tried a cheap $12 5V passthrough and it changed my life for the better. I slowly sold or traded my 3.7V stuff off for HV. The only way to go is AW16340's, stacked and racked.

I really think if I had not found HV, I'd probably be back to smoking. I would suck on the 3.7 until I hyperventilated in order to get a decent hit. With 5 or 6V it's effortless, fulfilling and satisfying.
Good post

Oh yea, IKV RY4 at 24mg PG was the other part of the equasion. The only juice I stock 3 months worth. Soon planning to buy another 3 months. It's getting popular and wouldn't want to be out during the Holidays
 
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Yeh, seems the tobacco flavors do well with HV, but I use a lot of delicate flavorings that seem to taste burned at higher than 4.5V. Doesn't matter what the carto, I've tried em all, using the boge 2.0 and 3.0 and the emdccs and xl dccs. But at 6V the hit is so easy and I really get volumes of vapor. I guess I'll have to adjust my DIY mixing for some flavors that can take the heat. But that's a whole other study, yet again.
 

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Yep, I just got some bad batteries. They are not reading over 3.6V when fresh off the charger. They should read 4.1 or so. The ultrafires work, they just drain too quickly compared to the AWs I just got. They are doing this in my other mod also so I know it's the batts. I really like my little Piper VV PT, no batteries, no charging and 4.2 is good for most of my juices. But ya know, we need to try everything at least once. I really do like this MV VV box, well worth the 35 bucks.
 

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Yep, it's the Ultrafire batteries. The AW's came in the other day and now I'm getting several hours before they drain. I'm going to use the AWs exclusively from now on. The unit seems to work fine now. With my dccs I usually set it around 4.5 or so, my juice tends to taste best at that voltage. I'm just not getting the 6V vaping. None of my juice tastes good at that voltage except for the Key Lime Pie. Everything else looses it's taste, although the amount of vapor is huge.

Really glad that everything has worked out for you. The AW IMR batteries are the only ones that I use too. All the other ones that I had before just doesn't perform as well. 4.5 is a good voltage to be vaping at. Although I'm more of a 5V person myself. Which isn't to much of a difference but I find that's my sweet spot. Haven't tried going to 6V but might try that out sometime. I've been hearing people talking about how great Boba's Bounty tastes at that voltage.
 
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