The 510: USB passthrough worth buying?

How is the performance of your 510 USB passthrough?

  • The 510 USB passthrough works great.

  • The 510 USB passthrough works poorly.

  • I don't own a 510 USB passthrough yet.


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rsngfrce

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Personally, I've tried two of the passthroughs and the performance of both is worthless. I've used charged batteries from a battery charger and it makes no difference in the performance.

WHEN the passthrough works (which is spotty), it's performance is always weaker than with the normal manual battery. Elfod has posted a very interesting thread in this forum about the passthrough wiring being to thin and I think this a revision that Janty/Joye definately need to make!
 
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need_2quit

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mine works as advertised. no problems whatsoever. I got mine from Widow with the battery inline.

while at home I use it exclusively plugged into a wall a/c usb plug.

I've rarely had to charge my batteries.

I also have a car inverter that should do the job nicely if i want to use it in the car. one of these days I'll get a usb car adapter.

If you want to save on buying batteries with a destined shelf life, the PT is the way to go.
 

mamu

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I have the 510 passthrough from Janty and it does work as well as the batteries. I power it with my Kensington Power Pack and the charge lasts about 2 days before needing a re-charge.

I do have an inline battery issue though that it won't hold a charge when taken off the Kensington. But I read you can easily buy these batts at radio shack.

I also read the thread about the wire mod. Interesting, but since mine works fine no need to fuss with it.

I have another 510 passthrough coming in from eastmall.net. Hope it works as well as the Janty one.
 

Shadowdr

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I got mine from the widow too. It worked pretty good at first but now not so good. It seems to work fine from the wall plug or in my car on the same adapter. It works for crap on the computer usb however and takes a long time from my adapter to get back to working good once it has been on the computer. I think that the battery must be going bad as it is not as good as at first and will only last a few puffs if disconnected but battery works good in my Nicostick mod. I have no idea what is wrong.
 

RsL

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I've got two 510 passthroughs. One from Janty and one from AltSmoke. The Janty one has a small button that doesn't stick out very far, which was Ok with me until one day I pushed the button in and it broke off inside the unit. Janty replaced it for me though under warranty and the replacement has the same type of button.

My other one from AltSmoke was DOA but Rob sent out a replacement which I received in 2 days. This one is working fine. This unit's button sticks out farther than the Janty model which I'm thinking is a good thing.

As to performance, both passthroughs work great and I don't notice any drop off in performance as opposed to using a regular battery.
 

feathersncream

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I have the 510 passthrough from Janty and it does work as well as the batteries. I power it with my Kensington Power Pack and the charge lasts about 2 days before needing a re-charge.

I do have an inline battery issue though that it won't hold a charge when taken off the Kensington. But I read you can easily buy these batts at radio shack.

I also read the thread about the wire mod. Interesting, but since mine works fine no need to fuss with it.

I have another 510 passthrough coming in from eastmall.net. Hope it works as well as the Janty one.


Radio Shack doesn't sell them or at least not the radio shack by me -- I ordered 1 from lighthound.com the shipping was only like 3.00 not bad!!
 

Hellen A. Handbasket

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How long should the in-line battery charge before you can use them? No instructions come with them at all! Should the battery be replaced with a better one? (asking this for someone else). Sounds like the modification is pretty perfect!

My friend just got the 510 passthrough and I have the in-line manual for the 801 (and it didn't come with instruction on it either). I find the vapor wimpy and I am not loving it too much at all. This is why I'm wondering if a better battery would help? It has been on the usb for 2 days with no improvement.

Any advise is appreciated!
 

Hellen A. Handbasket

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Where did you buy the wall adapter?
Dave:cool:
Dave-
You can get them ultra cheap at DealExtreme:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.19242
$2.55 ea. bulk price so I bought 5 of them!

and if you have an iPhone, you probably already have one. I stole husband's until mine arrived from Deal Extreme :cool:

If you really have to have it now, you can pay around $30 for the identical thing at Best Buy.
 

mikea

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I decided it'd be best not to use passthroughs at work in the usual way, as my computer is sometimes 'mission-critical'. Not taking that risk...so what to do? I tried a couple of different AC-to-USB adapters with an 801 passthrough -- no luck. I guess such chargers 'see' the passthrough as a battery that has reached full charge, and they immediately go into power-saving mode. The 801 passthrough would flash to indicate: no power. So I got a (relatively inexpensive) Belkin AC-powered USB hub. Both the 801 and 510 passthroughs work well with the hub. (I haven't used the 510's passthrough enough to know how much time I can get out of the internal battery. Judging by remarks in the forum about that battery, I shouldn't expect great things from it. The charge in its internal battery is still low, but using the hub, I haven't had a problem with that. Plenty o' vapor...)
 

mikea

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Mind telling me the model number on this hub? I have a powered usb hub, but it won't charge the passthrough. It's an oldie, though.
It doesn't seem to have a model number (unless the number is buried in the so-small-I-can't-read-it print on the back side of the unit. On the outer package, the name is shown as "USB Plus Hub" (4 port). When I went to one of the electronics superstore sites and searched for the phrase USB Plus Hub, I found it right away.

It's about 2 inches wide and 4.25" long. When it's lying flat, it has two USB ports on the top deck, two on the side, plus one of those smaller USB sockets (I never know which size is designated "A" "B" etc.). So, it's 4 output ports plus one input port, and since I got impatient to use it and didn't read the tiny user manual, I don't know which is input and which is output. :) At the very least I know that the top-deck ports are for output, cuz for testing it I have one 801 passthrough and one 510 passthrough connected there. And both work. :)

Where I see a major problem with the 510 passthrough is how thin the wires are that go from the battery box to the plug. Looks like a design flaw to me -- compare those wires with the ones attached to your typical compactflash card reader, or external USB hard drive. Night-and-day difference. And, the battery box is located too doggoned close to the plug.

When I plugged the thing into the computer (before getting the hub), I saw the battery box hanging down at a steep angle, bending the wires at the plug end quite a bit. Not good; I think that'd eventually cause the wires to break at the point where they enter the plug. I plugged the passthrough into one of the side ports of the hub -- not a top port. Now the wire now comes straight out of the hub and not at an angle. It'd be great if some day, someone designed a more robust 510 passthrough. Glad I ordered two of 'em, because I think those little wires are going to give me grief sooner than later.

Can't explain it, but: with both the 801 and 510 passthroughs I seem to get better vapor even compared with using a freshly-charged battery. And -- I really can't explain this -- when I use the passthroughs, the juice in the carts seems to hang in there longer without needing topping-off, especially so for the 801 passthrough. How the heck could that be, if ignition using a passthrough is more efficient? If anything I'd think the juice would get used up faster.
 
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