I apologize if i started an uproar here. I can only say what my experience is and all of us have different taste buds and favorite flavors and expectations of what it should be and what is not. I have bought alot of juice i did not like or care for, then moved on to find something else, but others gave it praise on their reviews, go figure. I found the wordupecig juice review on this forum, took the chance, and it agrees with MY pallete, maybe some others it does not. I just read a review on the awesome taste of Tasty Vapors tobacco juice today, and i will also buy some of that. May like it, may not. We all are rolling the dice out there with these juices and flavors, always on the quest for our perfect vaping experience, i know that i am. I know that i am NOT smoking stinkie cigs anymore and that is my goal. Thanks for understanding.