~The Billet BoX~

[jellis1414]

So after some updates, and going back and reading through my entire message... bad with the skim technique... Need to stop that so much, just hard when I am dealing with Twin boys, Grad School and work... just need to find time in the day to actualy sit and read.... But am very worried about the new Boards???? Why the increase to high res coils only? This is a bit worry some? My Billet work Amazing right now with nice LR boge carto, or my Diver with 1.5 coils? Why change this is beyond me??? I need to get a Billet for my wife, but I am worried now that I am going have many issues with the higher res requirement on my coils and cartos.

Does anyone know the reasoning behind this? Was there too many people blowing switches? Boards? So that precipitated this decision and course of action?

 

[fraghole]

Hey, whatever happened with scuba and the atty he was working on for the BB? I haven't checked the thread in a while.

 

[armadillo]

I have started reading some posts here but have not been able to find info on the precise weight of the billet box when fully loaded (batteries plus juice). Can someone point me to that info?

 

[fraggboy]

I have started reading some posts here but have not been able to find info on the precise weight of the billet box when fully loaded (batteries plus juice). Can someone point me to that info?

6.8oz with batteries and full tank.

 

[armadillo]

Thank you. So it's roughly half the weight of the VTR. I think I want one.

 

[Doug Dino]

Hey, whatever happened with scuba and the atty he was working on for the BB? I haven't checked the thread in a while.

i know he was havin' some trouble getting the parts made at a reasonable price. Don't know how much further he got... but i have one and as far as carto sized rebuilds go, his is pretty much the best design so far imho...

 

[Doug Dino]

So after some updates, and going back and reading through my entire message... bad with the skim technique... Need to stop that so much, just hard when I am dealing with Twin boys, Grad School and work... just need to find time in the day to actualy sit and read.... But am very worried about the new Boards???? Why the increase to high res coils only? This is a bit worry some? My Billet work Amazing right now with nice LR boge carto, or my Diver with 1.5 coils? Why change this is beyond me??? I need to get a Billet for my wife, but I am worried now that I am going have many issues with the higher res requirement on my coils and cartos.

Does anyone know the reasoning behind this? Was there too many people blowing switches? Boards? So that precipitated this decision and course of action?

ummm, no,... nothing changed except how it turns on and off..., has nothing to do with ohms, at all... the board is rated for 3 amps, always has.. still is...

 

[Doug Dino]

well, my e-bay orders started rolling in...

i can now 100% assure you, 1800mah is kind of a stretch...... and they are umm, just no, don't even.
they are also just a hair longer than most 16340s too... just a bit, but still, major pain to whack um out... and no, they have no protection curcuit... and one was DOA...



....but i did ineert them rewarwed and they didn't blow up, so that's a plus,,, not kidding.. don't buy these..


These however are working just fine, i just put um in, will keep ya posted!



but heck, as they came from e-bay i can't even say if they are real or counterfeit ultra fires, everything gets knocked off, who knows...

 

[Doug Dino]

Hi folks!

I got my Billet Box last week, and I have a few questions:

* What's the deal with LR cartos? The instruction manual says to use 2.8ohm to 3.0ohm cartos. I have a bunch of LR that I'd like to use...

you just will get better battery life with 2.8 to 3ohms... 2.4 ohms is just fine if that's what ya got...

 

[azzaman]

Those ultra fires are preeeety cheap. Let us know how you go. It would be worth grabbing a 6 pack from hk.

 

[ThreeDJ16]

Those ultra fires are preeeety cheap. Let us know how you go. It would be worth grabbing a 6 pack from hk.

Man no way, you're own my friends list, hate for you to get hurt over something as easy to stop as this (ok, and anybody not on my list too..hehe). As much power as those little suckers punch, don't do it. I only paid like five or six bucks apiece for reputable batteries from a reputable source. Now we are putting two in series in a device with the BB. That is a lot of energy in your pocket for cheapo batteries to explode on you due to faulty protection or something. Love my BB, but it doesn't have a protection shut down circuit in it, you're leaving that to your battery, which is why Doug specifies only use protected batteries. So if the BB gets the button pushed in your pocket, the batteries thermal or current shutoff is all that is protecting you from a run away cell. Hate to trust that to some cheapo, potential knockoff. Plenty of info about that here on the ecig forum. Anyway, just my .

 

[fraggboy]

I have to agree with Drunk_J (Sober or drunk on this one)..

Don't skimp out trying to save a few $$$ on the batteries. Go with the tested and verified batteries. Heck, you don't have to have a lot on hand. I just own my 2. Once they start wearing out (Starts not lasting as long), I will then purchase 2 more.

I'm not saying that every seller on eBay is selling knock-off's, but you never know!! I don't like to gamble on that. I'll stick to gambling in Las Vegas!!

 

[Katdarling]

Man no way, you're own my friends list, hate for you to get hurt over something as easy to stop as this (ok, and anybody not on my list too..hehe). As much power as those little suckers punch, don't do it. I only paid like five or six bucks apiece for reputable batteries from a reputable source. Now we are putting two in series in a device with the BB. That is a lot of energy in your pocket for cheapo batteries to explode on you due to faulty protection or something. Love me BB, but it doesn't have a protection shut down circuit in it, you're leaving that to your battery, which is why Doug specifies only use protected batteries. So if the BB gets the button pushed in your pocket, the batteries thermal or current shutoff is all that is protecting you from a run away cell. Hate to trust that to some cheapo, potential knockoff. Plenty of info about that here on the ecig forum. Anyway, just my .

^^^^^ this.

I never use a batt with "fire" on its label... Trust(it will)fire... Ultra(huge)fire... uh uh, no thankie you.

 

[fraghole]

i know he was havin' some trouble getting the parts made at a reasonable price. Don't know how much further he got... but i have one and as far as carto sized rebuilds go, his is pretty much the best design so far imho...

Sweet, now send it to me.

 

[NorthOfAtlanta]

Man no way, you're own my friends list, hate for you to get hurt over something as easy to stop as this (ok, and anybody not on my list too..hehe). As much power as those little suckers punch, don't do it. I only paid like five or six bucks apiece for reputable batteries from a reputable source. Now we are putting two in series in a device with the BB. That is a lot of energy in your pocket for cheapo batteries to explode on you due to faulty protection or something. Love my BB, but it doesn't have a protection shut down circuit in it, you're leaving that to your battery, which is why Doug specifies only use protected batteries. So if the BB gets the button pushed in your pocket, the batteries thermal or current shutoff is all that is protecting you from a run away cell. Hate to trust that to some cheapo, potential knockoff. Plenty of info about that here on the ecig forum. Anyway, just my .

I did a lot of reading before starting to use mods and decided the only batteries I wanted in my pocket was AW or Panasonic IMR. They don't have as high a mah rating as the others but just don't seem to explode even with a dead short. There are plenty of videos on line where people try to blow them up and the worst they do is get hot and vent out the top. I only buy them from US vendors with good reputations, it just isn't worth trying to save a couple of bucks on something that should last for over a year and is the only thing about an e-cigarette that is seriously capable of hurting you.

 

[ThetaReactor]

My idea of "cheap" batteries is Efest.

 

[azzaman]

Man no way, you're own my friends list, hate for you to get hurt over something as easy to stop as this (ok, and anybody not on my list too..hehe). As much power as those little suckers punch, don't do it. I only paid like five or six bucks apiece for reputable batteries from a reputable source. Now we are putting two in series in a device with the BB. That is a lot of energy in your pocket for cheapo batteries to explode on you due to faulty protection or something. Love my BB, but it doesn't have a protection shut down circuit in it, you're leaving that to your battery, which is why Doug specifies only use protected batteries. So if the BB gets the button pushed in your pocket, the batteries thermal or current shutoff is all that is protecting you from a run away cell. Hate to trust that to some cheapo, potential knockoff. Plenty of info about that here on the ecig forum. Anyway, just my .

Hey mate, I completely understand where you are coming from. But I remember when I first found the panasonics I run now and a lot of people on ecf said not to run them. The only reason why I was interested in options for 16340s is that most of them look exactly the same. There isn't as many options for suppliers. I question how many are just rebadged from the same manufacturer. I bought some half decent ones, well I trust the store I bought them from cause they seem to know what they are doing. I want to buy a few sets of the black aw s. But I am still curious as to the performance of ultra and trust fires in the 16340 size.

 

[ThreeDJ16]

Hey mate, I completely understand where you are coming from. But I remember when I first found the panasonics I run now and a lot of people on ecf said not to run them. The only reason why I was interested in options for 16340s is that most of them look exactly the same. There isn't as many options for suppliers. I question how many are just rebadged from the same manufacturer. I bought some half decent ones, well I trust the store I bought them from cause they seem to know what they are doing. I want to buy a few sets of the black aw s. But I am still curious as to the performance of ultra and trust fires in the 16340 size.

Hello brother! Unless I am mistaken, AW is made with Panasonics, so not sure why someone would tell you not to use them. Unless they were the protected variety and in a Provari, which has the built in protection and doesn't need it in the battery. I was mainly siding with caution on buying from an unknown source and getting knockoffs. Trustfire, Ultrafire & Surefire are all most probably rebrands as they are flashlight makers, not battery makers. Not sure who makes them, but there is a good chance Panasonic for the reputable sellers. Panasonic is a huge manufacturer of so many products out there that are rebranded, it is amazing. At one time they were one of the only plasma screen makers and everyone else's TV used the Panasonic plasma screen...hahaha. One last thing to check. A ton of the Trust/Sure/Ultra whatever that I looked at had 3.7v in the description, but when you looked at the battery, it had 3.0v or 3.6v. That throws up a red flag for me to start with!

Cheers mate! haha...I tried to do that in me best Aussie accent too.

 

[azzaman]

Hello brother! Unless I am mistaken, AW is made with Panasonics, so not sure why someone would tell you not to use them. Unless they were the protected variety and in a Provari, which has the built in protection and doesn't need it in the battery. I was mainly siding with caution on buying from an unknown source and getting knockoffs. Trustfire, Ultrafire & Surefire are all most probably rebrands as they are flashlight makers, not battery makers. Not sure who makes them, but there is a good chance Panasonic for the reputable sellers. Panasonic is a huge manufacturer of so many products out there that are rebranded, it is amazing. At one time they were one of the only plasma screen makers and everyone else's TV used the Panasonic plasma screen...hahaha. One last thing to check. A ton of the Trust/Sure/Ultra whatever that I looked at had 3.7v in the description, but when you looked at the battery, it had 3.0v or 3.6v. That throws up a red flag for me to start with!

Cheers mate! haha...I tried to do that in me best Aussie accent too.

Hahaha. Thanks mate. Yer I was hoping once Doug has played around with them for a bit he could let us know. It would be terrible though putting all that work into getting a BB, to lose it to a cheap pair of batts. Would be one terrible experience.

 

[fraggboy]

Guys,

Drunk_J and myself have just finished the new forum for BB. There are different forums which should make it easier to access as well as categorize the information. It's running at my house, so the connection might go down every once in a while and such. It is running secured (HTTPS), with a self-signed certificate (Untrusted). I strongly believe that a website should be secured all of the time, and not just during checkout.

When you first go there, you will only see 1 forum (There are more forums after you register, trust me!).


https://billetboxforums.dyndns.org/forum


Let me know if there might be other forums that might help out.

Thanks!!