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StrikeIII

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Thanks strikeIII and xtreme101, I did get the Kanthal ready wires. So that funky taste is coming from somewhere else. I'll have to track it down, maybe boil the metal parts. Wish I had a ultrasonic cleaner!

Maybe try torching the wire before making your coils.

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Little Update:

Hey Guys, first off.. sorryz, sorry i haven't been around. My goal was to increase our production, and that meant moving, and more machines... those words can be typed out super quick, the reality of doing those things is ... huge... it took all i had... but we went from selling out in 4 min to over an hour today, that feels like i achieved something... our new shop is not even hitting anywhere close to our potential, so we finally have the room to grow, and that feels really good.

second sorry, is that i have not been trigger happy with the old camera phone... well, actually i have, but mainly with these types of pictures....


look at that face,,, LOOK AT IT, SO F"N CUTE, you just want to squeeze her till she PoPs....

SNIP...

First time I've seen you post since I started reading this thread a few months before my Billet Box came. I realize I am only one person, but I do want you to know that the Billet Box is so wonderful, that at this point I have PIFed all my other gear but my ProVari, and my ProVari is actually my backup to my Billet Box.

Sadly, I have had my Billet Box fly out of my hands three times now (bad hands), but the only damage has been two broken drip tips. Care and cleaning is very simple, and as I only vape 5-9mls a day, one fillup per day does me quite well.

I simply vape to not smoke, this has not yet become a 'hobby' for me, and I am not a 'collector'. I find the Billet Box much easier to use and carry in my daily life than my ProVari, and that makes me a fan of yours. Thank you for what you do Sir~!
 

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Anyone else having problems with the Billet Bridge in the Billet Box? I can draw only one time and then i get a bad taste.
Maybe someone can give me a little how to. Liquid is 50/35/15 Base. I think the Liquid comes not to the coil.
Billet Box vapor has said the billet bridge is good but i dont think so :-(
Or i do something wrong i dont know.

thanks florian

I notice the same thing. Doesn't wick well through the internal filler material. I removed that and put more cotton and it wicks much better.

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I plan on using a Diver V2 Enzelis when my BB arrives and wanted to get some tips from others who are using this combo. Any special way to fill the tank with the Diver V2 to prevent leaking? Other input would be greatly appreciated.

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Come by the Diver thread, lots of good info there and we'll help with any issues.

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Come by the Diver thread, lots of good info there and we'll help with any issues.

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You know I'm there regularly too. Just thought I would ask in here as well. I actually saw the YouTube video that K posted on how to fill the BB tank by covering both ends with your fingers to prevent juice from getting pushed in while filling. Going to have to try that out.

Once I get my BB and put my Diver in I'll definitely be posting over there if I run into any issues.

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I always found the Aspire heads were very inconsistent. Some vape very well and some don't vape well at all.

I've been using the B Bridge for a week or a bit longer, and so far am loving it. I tend to vape the same juice all the time 65PG/35VG, and just the other day swapped to the second head (lost all flavor after 50mls or more). I like an airy draw, and with cartos, seemed like I had to change every 1-3 days. Swapping heads is easier/faster, and if I do it less often it'll cost less than what I spend on cartos.

At this point I have no plans to rebuild heads at all, and I am going to get the Sabot-DDD so I can see which I will enjoy more (I suspect it'll come down to the heads), but am excited about the adjustable air-flow on the Sabot, am hoping that means I can make the pull more airy than the B Bridge is.

Oh, and so far, zero juice in my mouth - which tends to happen to me with cartos. I assume that will be the same with the Sabot as well?
 

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I used carto/tanks exclusively for about a year and never got juice in my mouth. If you're getting juice in your mouth you're doing something wrong.

Yup, I am. Two different things I believe. Vaper condensation collects in the tip and I don't clean it often enough (I like a warm vape), and as the carto gets harder on the pull, I tend to inhale too hard thereby sucking a bit of juice or juice/condensation into my mouth. The point is, this does not happen at all with the Billet Bridge.
 

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I've been using the B Bridge for a week or a bit longer, and so far am loving it. I tend to vape the same juice all the time 65PG/35VG, and just the other day swapped to the second head (lost all flavor after 50mls or more). I like an airy draw, and with cartos, seemed like I had to change every 1-3 days. Swapping heads is easier/faster, and if I do it less often it'll cost less than what I spend on cartos.

At this point I have no plans to rebuild heads at all, and I am going to get the Sabot-DDD so I can see which I will enjoy more (I suspect it'll come down to the heads), but am excited about the adjustable air-flow on the Sabot, am hoping that means I can make the pull more airy than the B Bridge is.

Oh, and so far, zero juice in my mouth - which tends to happen to me with cartos. I assume that will be the same with the Sabot as well?

I have the BBridge and a SABOT tester. The tester I have is Protank airy or a little more, which is why I pushed for air control. :)

Overall, I like the SABOT more from a performance and ease of use perspective. The BBridge is a little bit of a pain due to the upper tube being free floating in the tank after removing the bottom. The SABOT acts as 1 unit once assembled and is very easy to insert/remove.

Also, I haven't been able to vape any non carto this low in the tank ever...

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The BBridge is a little bit of a pain due to the upper tube being free floating in the tank after removing the bottom. The SABOT acts as 1 unit once assembled and is very easy to insert/remove.

That is exactly what I don't like about the BBridge. To me it's a PITA!
 

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I guess I forgot to watch the video for the correct way to install the B Bridge. To install, I push the small piece in from the bottom, the big piece in from the top, and once together make the final adjustment. To remove, I simply use my favorite carto tool and push down and out. I can see how a single piece will make it easier.
 

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Oh man, if you're going to be offering colors, I'd really, really, really, really, REALLY like orange. Or green.

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'nother uPdate...

K, so here's the "what comes next" update... i'll fill ya in on what's been going on so far with the anodizing... first off, this is not as simple as get a box and hand it to an anodizer... so if anyone was considering stripping a BB and giving that a go, the results would pretty much suck. The reason this is tricky is because of how tight the tolerances are for that lid to slide all happy nice into the main BB body. We are talking +/- 0.0002 here (aka: small)... The anodizing eats aluminum and then grows a layer of super hard magic growth stuff... Soooo, when you give something to an anodizer your part could lose or grow +/- 0.0005 per surface... as that slide enters a grove in the body there are 4 contacting surfaces, with a total probable error of +/- 0.004... that won't fly. So we test... and test, then test more... then one more time to be sure... luckily the anodizers are super mega willing to work with me here... but out of the few dozen we have tested with, i would only call 7 of um sell'able (aka: really damn good). One of the problems here is that they (the anodizers) have lots of different ways to hold different shaped parts, but none of them are truly ideal for our parts, and that results in some rough handling on there end and dings and such that i won't let fly, i'll scrap the part... what makes it quite a bit worse is the amount of attention we give to mating each lid to each body... once they are paired they become one part, sanded and prepped together... so lets say the anodizers are racking our stuff and they drop a slide lid and ding it... then pick it up and rack it anyway,, now it won't work and we throw away the lid AND body, over an hour of machine time down the drain... there is just no saving either after they are anodized... that was the case in quite a few of our test. They, and any other anodizers are very much a production setting, they need processes... the bottom line here is that we don't want them touching our shít! We want their acid, electricity, and science,,, we don't want their hand work. So we are taking that away from them and racking our parts ourselves... so what i have been working on for the past two weeks is to engineer them racks that WE will fill with our parts so all they have to do is dunk them puppies in their happy acid vats of doom!

Sooo step one, design a racking system...
one to hold the bodies...



and one for the slidey lid things...



K, so this was kinda lame and i wasn't really camera happy makin' these, it was more a matter of cutt'n um up really fast and gett'n this over with... so i machined up all these ring / doughnut looking things, and these little post doobers that stick into the doughnuts..



I had two options for fixing the post to the doughnut, as there are only two materials that can go into an anodizing vat, aluminum and titanium. So i could use titanium bolts to mechanically fasten the two together, or i could have um' welded into place. I HAVE to use titanium screws to mount our BB parts to the rack after it's done, and that was... well, here's a picture of my hand, holding 380$'s worth of titanium screws... apparently these things only grow on the now endangered titanium screw bushes along the ridge line of the liechtenstein alps... protected by goats... and dragons....



Yah,,, welding seemed to be the better choice.. so I'm having one of my neighbors round our new shop weld um up for me as i don't seem to own a 350amp heliarc welder (it's on my birthday wish list)



looking pretty good, one of those titanium screws will now go through the electrical room of the BB and into the post on the dognut..



just another pic of it all done...



so that's that done,,, now we need to hold the sliding lid thing.. again, not trigger happy with the camera but i got the sucker made and that's what counts...



I just finished that up friday so i'll have it welded up this week... here is how that titanium screw is going to hold that slide cover in place.



another thing i have decided on is that i'm not going to give them to the anodizers engraved, this is the orange one i have been using for the past ...ehhh, 2 months round 'bout...it was engraved before anodizing, it looks good but...



i like this better,



so after they get back from anodizing i'll stick um back in... probably Ruby for this.. and she will engrave um...

K, so all that said and done, we still have some work and finger crossing before these become a production thing.. but i do have the end result in hand and have been using it for a good while now. The verdict is that anodizing is great for the Billet Box, it's tough.. aside from a very small ding where i drop an er32 collet nut wrench on my box, after 8 weeks the thing is still pristine... sure i haven't been throwing it across the shop to demonstrate it's durability... but still, my boxes don't have an easy existence, she has been picked up and set down on metal surfaces countless times, dropped on concrete (which to be fair is epoxy coated so it's not as sharp as bare concrete, but still...), been put in my pocket with my keys, and the finish is still perfect... and it's orange, so yah know, awesomeness.. at any rate i'll be posting progression as we roll along...


think that's all the updating i got in me for the present...
 

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That is exactly what I don't like about the BBridge. To me it's a PITA!

as long as the tank is half empty (or half full if your optimistic!), i'v just been grabbin the atty end with some needle nose pliers and leave the top tube in (tank upside down), swap out the atty from the thready ring thingy and pop it back in... more work than a carto sure, but i'v had some really good runs on them heads.. but a good share of bad luck with um too... that's the game with mass made coils..
 

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I simply vape to not smoke, this has not yet become a 'hobby' for me, and I am not a 'collector'. I find the Billet Box much easier to use and carry in my daily life than my ProVari, and that makes me a fan of yours. Thank you for what you do Sir~!

thank you for that! I started this because i didn't want it to be a hobby for me either, I still get a little ...... when i have to drop what i'm doing and swap out cells, or when i blow a coil, but then again i don't like it when nature calls either.. doesn't my body know i'm busy right now, but NOOOoooo, i have to stop what i'm doing and run (waddle cautiously) to the bathroom....

sorry i got off track there...

anywayz,, unfortunately this has turned into something a little more than a hobby for me.... bummer... but really, really thank you, It makes me truly happy to hear the things we make are enjoyed and useful.
 
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