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Doug Dino

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just have a sec, but i have been sent to inform anyone here who ordered two or more tanks, but didn't updated the quantity and ordered multiple times, that you will have a shiny* five dollar bill slipped into your order to cover the gap.....
k, gotta go, doing metaly things.

* = (probably not really shiny)
 

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Hi Vapian ... could u explain to me about ohms? I am confused about them...

Yeah, they can be kind of confusing, even when you know what they are and do ... and it gets complicated when you consider the relationship between ohms and at least 11 other factors that all go into how well or poorly a cartomizer vapes.

I have this really cool (in my mind) metaphor I've been working on to explain this, that describes six different parties with the same partiers:

- Ohms (the guy who dances his .... off but never moves his feet);
- Volts (the guy who gets as much beer as he's told, no more, no less);
- Amps (the libido of the girl who kind of likes both Ohms and Volts so is having a relationship with both of them); and
- Watts (either the DJ at the party, or the girl's schizoid alternate personality with the gift of low-grade pyrokinesis - haven't decided yet).

Unfortunately it's more complicated than I'd like and parses something like Hoodwinked with disco lights and Duran Duran playing the background.

Not sure it's going to work out.

Anywho, hopefully someone will kick in with a simplified explanation while I'm trying to get visions of drunken post-high-school makeout dances out of my head and come up with something useful.
 

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just have a sec, but i have been sent to inform anyone here who ordered two or more tanks, but didn't updated the quantity and ordered multiple times, that you will have a shiny* five dollar bill slipped into your order to cover the gap.....
k, gotta go, doing metaly things.

* = (probably not really shiny)


Why can't people outside of the US order extra tanks off amazon?
 

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I'm having trouble with the door sticking. It's getting rough to move. I've cleaned and used olive oil and then silicone lubricant but it's still really rough.

Hmm, I had that issue. I had to lube up the ball itself, the track and the socket, and wipe down the edges of the door and the "track" that the door slides into as well. for that one, I took a little bit of a paper towel and formed a point with it and stuck it in there. ALOT of black residue came off. After that I used some more silicon lubricant that I use for airsoft guns and it was back to normal after opening it a couple of times.
 

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Hmm, I had that issue. I had to lube up the ball itself, the track and the socket, and wipe down the edges of the door and the "track" that the door slides into as well. for that one, I took a little bit of a paper towel and formed a point with it and stuck it in there. ALOT of black residue came off. After that I used some more silicon lubricant that I use for airsoft guns and it was back to normal after opening it a couple of times.

That's exactly my experience. I sprayed the paper towel with the silicone and rubbed the tracks and the sides of the door to clean it all off and then wiped in some more lube. I guess I'll go give it some more.
 

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Worked at it a little more and it's a bit better. Used a bit of 400 grit, silicone and paper towels. My best guess about what's happening is the spring ball's force against the door is causing the door to grind against the inside channel, creating dust that clogs things up. I hope it's just something that needs to "break in."
 

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Hi Vapian, while everyone is busy getting their extra tanks could u explain to me about ohms? I am confused about them is it the lower ones that u but on higher volts or is it the 3ohm that go on higher volts. And when I was looking for cartos some didn't have ohms mentioned but letters I think. I have bought a pack of boges that 2324kids sent me to but would like to try the ike or maybe something else. anyway one of the ones I was looking at didn't have the ohms mentioned.

It all starts with the battery, which delivers "power"

So "ohms" are how much the coil of the atomizer/cartomizer "fights back". Imagine it like a game of tug-of-war. A high-ohm atomizer/carto would be kind of "evenly matched" with the "current team", giving as much effort to resist the pull of the other team.

"volts" are the team fighting the "ohms" team, or the amount of power being delivered from the battery

"amps" doesn't really fit into the tug-of-war example, but it's how much power is being drawn from the battery at a time. Think of it like a kitchen sink. If the sink itself represents the battery and the water is the "power", then a sink that's turned up to the max will put out more power than a sink set to "trickle". This is where the ohms comes in. The less the atty/carto "resists" or "fights back", the more power or "water" will be drawn at a time.

"Watts" are the final amount of power being held in the coil at a time, which is a translation from heat. So think of it this way:

4 volts on a 1.5ohm cartomizer will result in a higher wattage AND higher amperage because it doesn't fight back as much as a higher resistance cartomizer.

So to get technical-ish, here's what I got using an online calculator:

4 Volts of power to a 1.5ohm atty/carto delivers 2.67 amps and 10.67 watts.
4 Volts to a 3ohm unit delivers 1.3 amps and 5.3 watts

So, to match the 10.67 watts delivered from a 1.5ohm unit with a 3ohm unit, you would need:

5.66 Volts, drawing 1.89 amps


Typically, batteries drain slower when the amperage is low, and higher resistance coils are a little more durable to withstand "power" and are less likely to pop.

Also, the Billet Box has an amp limit of about 3A, so you wouldn't be able to take advantage of the full "voltage range" to find your "perfect vape setting" if you used a LR carto. Believe it or not, a LR carto on even the lowest setting the BB offers will be quite warm and may even burn a bit.

Hope this helps, I know that the terminology isn't all correct, but I tried to simplify it somehow lol.
 

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Worked at it a little more and it's a bit better. Used a bit of 400 grit, silicone and paper towels. My best guess about what's happening is the spring ball's force against the door is causing the door to grind against the inside channel, creating dust that clogs things up. I hope it's just something that needs to "break in."

When I first got mine, the door was pretty rough even though I lubricated it. After a while it kind of breaks in and it's pretty smooth.
 

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While it's not as potentially entertaining as Vapian's story, I find that plumbing is a good analogy for many electrical concepts.

Imagine, then, that the circuit is a pipe. Voltage is the speed that the water moves through the pipe. Amps represent the diameter of the pipe. Watts, being Volts multiplied by Amps, can be measured as the quantity of water coming out the end of the pipe in a given length of time.

Ohms are resistance. In this case, think of them as a narrowing of the pipe. Obviously, they limit the maximum size of the current (amps).

So, with higher resistance, you have to raise the voltage to get the same watts. With a narrower pipe, the water has to move faster to get the same amount of water out the end every second. With a wide open low-resistance pipe, the water can flow at a lower speed (voltage) but still fill a bucket (or make sweet vapor) just as quickly.
 

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I'm having trouble with the door sticking. It's getting rough to move. I've cleaned and used olive oil and then silicone lubricant but it's still really rough.

Use a toothpick with some of the tip cut off to polish and clean out the track. The problem with aluminum is that when it oxidizes if forms aluminum oxide which is just below diamond on the hardness scale... You need to polish off this layer of oxidation to make the track smooth again, and a paper towel just won't do the job. When you're done cleaning the tracks, apply some oil and it should be smooth again.
 

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just have a sec, but i have been sent to inform anyone here who ordered two or more tanks, but didn't updated the quantity and ordered multiple times, that you will have a shiny* five dollar bill slipped into your order to cover the gap.....
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Nice!
Yeah I was on my phone and wasn't trying to click the little quantity box, then hit something else by mistake, then go back a page, then forward, twice by accident, then back.... then no more tanks left.

Figured a tank in the hand is worth two in the cart.
Then I put another tank in my hand.
 
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Thanks guys I am rehashing and trin to compute this info into this slow brain will be back with what I am getting from it. and Vapian what a funny way to put it. As I read it I could just see a similar situation that happened from my younger days when my X and I went to a disko. The one and only one I ever went to LOL
 

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I am getting a 1.05ohm is also called a LR and it getts hotter then a 3 ohm: so will produce more and warmer vapor. They will be hotter to the touch. Is that why a cartamizer is sometimes hotter on a bigger battery. And it will use up your battery faster fighting the resistence. Sorry need to go study on Silentecho's reply it takes a bit to get the jest of things and it is a bit early yet. Need more caff. Be back in a while.
 
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