The Bulk Question.

[GreySaber]

Hello everyone.


Who does everyone know who sells BULK, and what do you think of them?

IS it possible just to get a massive brick of nicotine from somewhere and mix that into my own PG or VG as I choose?

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To help kick things off,
I just finished reading Walrus's thread on saving money by doing things yourself, which can be found here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...o-you-like-money-why-everyone-should-diy.html

And I then read this thread here on bulk e-liquid from the UK by way of China.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/intellicig/13660-ecopure-liquid-bulk.html

Which is a little convoluted.

Now, Here: All Liquid for Electronic Cigarette Electronic Cigarette Portal E-Liquid there are two links for bulk E-liquid. One from China, the other the UK.

IF ANYONE KNOWS A WAY TO JUST GET BULK NICOTINE... Pipe up.

But, strangely, the Chinese liquid is sold by the kilogram and the UK liquid is sold by the liter. I've writen in to see what they say, but I thought I would ask the group. I'm tempted to get the UK, since I'm thinking of switching off PG. (I think it's making my throat itch, but I've only tried Njoy regular/tradisional. Still waiting on a shipment from others.)

So, I've got the option, with this supplier, of getting UK Eliquid, (Fresh seems to be unflavored, and no a PG product.) Or Chinese 'standerd brand' unflavored. If I get either in super heavy nicotine I can thin it out to my prefernce and add my prefered flavoring mad scientist style... And be set up for a long long time.......

So, once I get the KG to Liter question solved, I can compare price between the two more accuretely.... (I imagine the chinese will be cheaper, but by how much?) And I do know the UK stuff has the added benefit of shipping from the UK so customs will be less troublesome.

 

[GreySaber]

Dang. I figured someone would say something....

Nonetheless, I got a reply from the Chinese.

0.56 kg = 0.53 L
1.2kg = 1.07 L

So at current prices, The
Chinese liquid= 87 per liter.
UK liquid = $138.88 per liter.

So a difference of about seventy dollars.

 

[wegster]

Did you wind up ordering any?

 

[HDBanger]

I ordered from china myself, got 2 1.2kg bottles of 36mg strength, 1 for me and one for my brother. I cut mine with food grade VG, vapes awesome. Took about 2 1/2 weeks to receive, well worth the savings, comes out to like $2.18 per 30ml bottle after cut. Good to go for some time..

 

[GreySaber]

I haven't ordered yet. That said, the UK supply has hit greater um......... obscurity.

You can still get it, it seems, by ordering directly from the UK people, not in the round about way through the Chinese, but you hav to make an inquiry, you may need to knock togeather some some of bussiness... and you'll have to ask how much it is at present.

 

[sMuCk_fOg]

asking the name of their NON flavored liquid.

The reply was..."yes we do sell non flavored liquid"
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haha

 

[GreySaber]

asking the name of their NON flavored liquid.

The reply was..."yes we do sell non flavored liquid"
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haha

The UK non-flavored is ... if my searches are correct.... referred to as 'fresh.' Chinese is just called 'unflavored.' or 'non-flavored' or whatnot.

Oh. I see, you mean in the ordering window. Virgin maybe?

 

[sMuCk_fOg]

I was trying to order from the drop down menu.

 

[Walrus]

I got a 1.15 liter bottle from Boge (http://www.bogetech.com) for $65, plus $47.80 shipping, plus $25 Western Union. Still, $137.80 for 1.15 liters of unflavored 36mg is a pretty good deal. They just aren't very convenient.

 

[wegster]

I ordered from china myself, got 2 1.2kg bottles of 36mg strength, 1 for me and one for my brother. I cut mine with food grade VG, vapes awesome. Took about 2 1/2 weeks to receive, well worth the savings, comes out to like $2.18 per 30ml bottle after cut. Good to go for some time..

ordered it from centraltrade or elsewhere?

 

[wegster]

I haven't ordered yet. That said, the UK supply has hit greater um......... obscurity.

You can still get it, it seems, by ordering directly from the UK people, not in the round about way through the Chinese, but you hav to make an inquiry, you may need to knock togeather some some of bussiness... and you'll have to ask how much it is at present.

yeah, I actually read through those two (or more) painful threads, as well as poked around entirely too many websites..just around when I found the 'deal' on CT on the liquid, and was reasonably excited...I saw those threads, and the insanity/confusion that ensued, plus the weirdness with ordering the UK/ecopure, and now needing a business license. truly bizarre, but I suppose Intellicig/Ecopure in a *way* can be considered 'protecting it's dealers,' assuming it's trying to resell en masse now?

 

[wegster]

I got a 1.15 liter bottle from Boge (http://www.bogetech.com) for $65, plus $47.80 shipping, plus $25 Western Union. Still, $137.80 for 1.15 liters of unflavored 36mg is a pretty good deal. They just aren't very convenient.

Found that site, but umm, wow, worst web site *ever*! How ere you able to order? Ask them via online chat - 'How the heck do I BUY something'?

I wound up looking for other Denang sites...without luck. What's the 'trick' in buying from them?

 

[Walrus]

Found that site, but umm, wow, worst web site *ever*! How ere you able to order? Ask them via online chat - 'How the heck do I BUY something'?

I wound up looking for other Denang sites...without luck. What's the 'trick' in buying from them?

Like i said, it's not convenient. You contact them, they send you a price list. You email back to them telling what you want to order. They email you back an invoice. You arrange payment by either Western Union or bank transfer. You email them the payment details. They email back a confirmation. 5-10 days later, you get a package.

 

[HDBanger]

ordered it from centraltrade or elsewhere?

Yup.. Central Trade it was.

 

[wegster]

@walrus, ok, got it, went through it, 'got the email'...thanks.

Yes, not 'easy,' but..will see. Also no 36mg/g including in unflavored. But, such is life. Thanks.

 

[Walrus]

@walrus, ok, got it, went through it, 'got the email'...thanks.

Yes, not 'easy,' but..will see. Also no 36mg/g including in unflavored. But, such is life. Thanks.

I heard the 'no 36' is a recent development, and is pretty much going to be industry standard. A supplier (who shall remain unnamed) told me that his engineer was forced to cancel & refund all 36mg strength orders due to some type of agreement with the FDA (does this mean they'll back off now?). He speaks Chinese and deals directly with Chinese suppliers, so I take him at his word. Looks like 24mg is going to be it once our suppliers run out of current stores of 36.

 

[TurtlsPace]

If I could make my own, wouldn't I be happy?

http://www.nicobrand.com/files/Nicotine_Free_Base_Data_Sheet.pdf

 

[wegster]

If I could make my own, wouldn't I be happy?

http://www.nicobrand.com/files/Nicotine_Free_Base_Data_Sheet.pdf

So would we. I'll take some 72mg, please?

@Walrus, thanks, good info. Sort of funny in a way, as now it's seeming likely the dosages are lower/don't map directly from e-cigs to analogs..

 

[TurtlsPace]

if i buy a liter or two from china, and cut it, how long do i have to vape it before it degrades? i don't think it's practical for personal use if the nic lvl goes out the window with time.

 

[GreySaber]

Reply from China.

Dear George,

Thanks for your early reply.
In our company website,you can palce the order:
1.2kg size e-liquid No-flavor high nicotine and so on
You can mention the specification you like.
We can check your order, and then tell you whether we can produce it.

As for the flavor questions, please pay attention to the answers listed
below:
"Virgin", "TurboSmog" : just a name
virgin is virgin state, turboSmog is turboSmog state.
DK-tab is mixed, we can't figger out what flavor it is.
and e-smoke is costumer made.
rethpull, which is a kind of drink that give wings to fly.

Many greets
Wendy