The " BUZZ " VariVolt PV Review

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Amajn

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I was thinking about rechargeable batts when I made my reply. I knew local stores had 3 volt disposable batteries but I didn't know they had 3.7. That's good to know if you need some in a hurry and can't wait to have some shipped to you.
Yea they are available although at much much higher cost and it would be more worth his buck to order online

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i think one pair i saw was 15 for 2 disposables :blink:
 

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I threw together my own voltage measuring mod. So simple I don't think I even need to tell anyone how to do it. I find that after a while you do need to check the voltage as you tend to loose track of where you are, so a quick check on the multimeter and your on track again.

Great mod buzz, I'm loving it. Oh and you can use my sig if you like, it's not TMed. :D
 

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I threw together my own voltage measuring mod. So simple I don't think I even need to tell anyone how to do it. I find that after a while you do need to check the voltage as you tend to loose track of where you are, so a quick check on the multimeter and your on track again.

Great mod buzz, I'm loving it. Oh and you can use my sig if you like, it's not TMed. :D

Please explain your 'voltage measurement mod', if you don't mind. It may be simple, but it's not at all obvious. ;-)
 

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Please explain your 'voltage measurement mod', if you don't mind. It may be simple, but it's not at all obvious. ;-)
OK, first grab a burnt out atty and screw it into a battery, ie a 510 atty into a 510 stick battery, or a 901 into a 901 battery etc. Then start to bend the atty body back and forth till it snaps free of the atty base and you then have your screw in meter reading base. Discard the atty shell. Solder red wire to the centre of the atty screw in body and a black wire to the outside of the body. Now use electricians tape to tape it all up so the wires don't break from the solder joints and on the other ends of the wires attach either alligator clips or as I did a pair of round crimp plugs that I soldered to the wires. Then I just crimped the round hole on the crimp plugs so I could insert the multimeter probes to fit tightly and you are set. Easy as. Center wire or red is positive.

If you don't feel comfortable just buy one from Buzz premade. But, I have to say that it is an essential part of the kit as you do need to know every now and then what your voltage is at.
 
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Yea they are available although at much much higher cost and it would be more worth his buck to order online

:toast:

i think one pair i saw was 15 for 2 disposables :blink:

I took a look at the Radio Shack site and couldn't find any 3.7 volt CR123a batteries. All I found was 3 volt. I wonder if 3.7 is something only some Radio Shack stores carry?

RadioShack.com
 

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It's not all that hard to just hold the two probes in one hand and press the button with the other. I've done it many times. It's even easier if you just get someone else to press the button. I must admit, though, that I did go ahead and order the Buzz connector to do it.

You're right, I just tested my Buzz holding the probes with one hand and it works. You just hold the probes like chopsticks. I guess that means you don't need the adapter or someone else to help you. However the adapter makes it a little easier when you're adjusting the voltage because you can't hold the probes, press the button, and turn the screw all at the same time. :)
 

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Arrgghh.

Day 2.

Buzz, buzz's no more.

Measures just fine, adj just fine, but will not light up an atty or carto.

Tried various combinations of adapters, 901 atty, 510 attys, 4 different types of cartos. 2 sets of batteries, both show green on charger, and same volts in Buzz.

I should mention that since I recieved it, I had to leave my 901-510 adapter slightly loose or the 510 attys would not work. You could see the LED's change. Snug, soild red, no vape. Loose, red and blue, vape.

When I did a 901-510 and 510-808 adapters (yea cobbled but shorter than the NotCig 901-808 by 1/4"). This could be snugged down fine and 808's vaped perfectly. Always red and blue.

Today I received my 901-808 adapter, put it on, and it had to be ever so slightly loose. Snug, solid red LED, slightly loose, red and blue.

Stopped working. Conveinently while I was bragging and showing the wonderful vapor , hit and taste off to a friend. :p

Tried 901-808 (NotCig) adpater, nada (slightly loose red/blu, tight red only)
Tried 901-510, 510 Atty, nada (slightly loose red/blu, tight red only)
Tried 901-510, 510-808, nada (snug red/blu)
Tried 901 Atty (NotCig), nada (slightly loose red/blu, tight red only)

So, there goes my trip for the next 2 weeks. :cry:

Back to my trusty, but unregulated, V4L 808 stuff....

Anyone else? Suggestions?

Emailed Buzz.

Max
 

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It has to do with the round screw head in the adapter on the Buzz pushing the center pin of either the atty or the adapter, depending what one you have on, off to the side and then it reads it as a short, which is why you get the red led. The short protection is kicking in. It tends to be worse with an adapter, at least that's what I found. With BuzzKill's help hubby changed mine out to a flat head screw. It wasn't easy but hubby is good and finally got it right and I haven't have a problem since.

BuzzKill will help you, don't worry. He said in the other thread he was taking the weekend off, so have patience if he doesn't get right back to you. He's top notch and won't let you down :)
 

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Arrgghh.

Day 2.

Buzz, buzz's no more.

Measures just fine, adj just fine, but will not light up an atty or carto.

Tried various combinations of adapters, 901 atty, 510 attys, 4 different types of cartos. 2 sets of batteries, both show green on charger, and same volts in Buzz.

I should mention that since I recieved it, I had to leave my 901-510 adapter slightly loose or the 510 attys would not work. You could see the LED's change. Snug, soild red, no vape. Loose, red and blue, vape.

When I did a 901-510 and 510-808 adapters (yea cobbled but shorter than the NotCig 901-808 by 1/4"). This could be snugged down fine and 808's vaped perfectly. Always red and blue.

Today I received my 901-808 adapter, put it on, and it had to be ever so slightly loose. Snug, solid red LED, slightly loose, red and blue.

Stopped working. Conveinently while I was bragging and showing the wonderful vapor , hit and taste off to a friend. :p

Tried 901-808 (NotCig) adpater, nada (slightly loose red/blu, tight red only)
Tried 901-510, 510 Atty, nada (slightly loose red/blu, tight red only)
Tried 901-510, 510-808, nada (snug red/blu)
Tried 901 Atty (NotCig), nada (slightly loose red/blu, tight red only)

So, there goes my trip for the next 2 weeks. :cry:

Back to my trusty, but unregulated, V4L 808 stuff....

Anyone else? Suggestions?

Emailed Buzz.

Max

I use a 801 to 510 adapter and don't have any problems. The way you describe your problems reminds me of the problems I had with my VP2. On my VP2 I had to screw the atty into the adapter first and then screw the adapter with atty on my VP2. If I screwed the adapter onto the VP2 and then screwed the atty on the adapter it wouldn't work.
 
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OK, first grab a burnt out atty and screw it into a battery, ie a 510 atty into a 510 stick battery, or a 901 into a 901 battery etc. Then start to bend the atty body back and forth till it snaps free of the atty base and you then have your screw in meter reading base. Discard the atty shell. Solder red wire to the centre of the atty screw in body and a black wire to the outside of the body. Now use electricians tape to tape it all up so the wires don't break from the solder joints and on the other ends of the wires attach either alligator clips or as I did a pair of round crimp plugs that I soldered to the wires. Then I just crimped the round hole on the crimp plugs so I could insert the multimeter probes to fit tightly and you are set. Easy as. Center wire or red is positive.

If you don't feel comfortable just buy one from Buzz premade. But, I have to say that it is an essential part of the kit as you do need to know every now and then what your voltage is at.

Oh 'that' mod. I knew all about that, but still opted for the $4 pre-rigged wire from Notcig. I thought you had some other trick up your sleeve, but I now know what you were eluding to. ;-)

Thanks though!
 

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WitchWay,

Thank you for the suggestion. Makes sense. I thin it becomes a manufatcurer tolerance issue, for the 'short' condition. I am now quite familiar with that entire upper assembly.


Hyperspace,

Good suggestion. Also makes sense for the same reason as WitchWay, mechanical tolerance.

Buzzkill,

Thanks for the late night answers and suggestions.


Solution,

A combination.

The center screw, and 901 taper seems to be mechanical tolerance issue with diff manufacturers.

The not 'buzzing' when led was red and blue, but I could measure voltage perfectly, appears to have been a small 'flake' of something on the upper positive battery connector. Disallowing actual current draw.

Center screw
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Moving the external center screw out, seems to have allieviated most of the issue with 'looseness' of attys and adapters. Though not perfect. What is?

I wasn't happy with the sealing there, (sorry the engineer and field guy in me), so I removed all the parts, used the existing 901 tapered connector as a 'mold', put a little release agent (like light oil) then filled it with a high temp RTV, making a custom plug. Poked a round toothpick with release agent on it, through the plug. Waited. Seems like I was bleary eyed at 2:00am and made it a little messy. :unsure: None the less, works. Though when I return, I will make a new plug, and try WitchWays suggestion (screws that small, with a counter sink and flathead were slim pickings in the wee hours in my house), and I suspect that will get it right, plus move it up from 95%-ish sealed to 99%-ish.


No Buzzz red and blue led
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For the 'no buzzing' portion. It seems there was a 'flake' of something clear with a bluish tint. Almost like a piece of plastic, but slightly softer. Don't know if it is a sealer (seems like it might glow under UV), or perhaps a small piece of plastic wrap from the battery packaging? Whichever it was, I used a plastic pick, knocked it off the contact, and all is well.


Cool. I was hoping to use it for an 'on site' workers camp, that is 'no smoking' in the rooms. :D


buzz-buzz-buzzzzzz-buuuuzzzzzz-gee I'm getting all twitchy like :hubba::shock::w00t:

Max
 

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Hyper, I am like you ...had a VP2 and the same problems as you so I just got my buzz yesterday and so far I think it is the best ever......When vaping we all have good days and bad days, well with the buzz I think the bad days are over. Also I'm surprised that you were able to say something bad about the Vp2 on the "other' forum without getting flamed.
The biggest problem with the buzz is that it slows down my typing because I won't take it out of my hand
 

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Hyper, I am like you ...had a VP2 and the same problems as you so I just got my buzz yesterday and so far I think it is the best ever......When vaping we all have good days and bad days, well with the buzz I think the bad days are over. Also I'm surprised that you were able to say something bad about the Vp2 on the "other' forum without getting flamed.
The biggest problem with the buzz is that it slows down my typing because I won't take it out of my hand

Glad to hear you bought a Buzz. I held off for a long time before I finally said something about my VP2 on Vapor Talk. I know there are a lot of fans over there but I saw that VP2 switch problem thread and figured that was a good place to say something. I think what ticked me off the most is I emailed Mary at Vaprilife about sending it in for a second time and I complained that the last time I sent it in it came back to me with vise dents in it and the repair only lasted a month. She didn't reply back to me and that's when I decided not to get my VP2 fixed and buy a Buzz instead. That was one of the best decisions I ever made because I like my Buzz way better than I did my VP2. :)
 

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I have a bunch of cartos that I've been using for a while at 6v on my Mako and I have been using them at 5v on the Buzz. I just wasn't getting the same hit or vape but persevered as I though 5v should be right. Well I put them back on the Mako at 6v and they shot back to life. So, out came the multimeter and upped the Buzz to 5.9, screwed in the carto and sure enough, they came good. So I guess if you have cartos or atties that have been become used to 6v, you better dial them in at close to the same on the Buzz. So good to be able to do that. Once again, I feel the Buzz. :D
 
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