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Any idea of how much juice you got in there before it dripped out the bottom? I think packing the filler down on an un-used carto compacted it and it didn't absorb juice evenly throughout. IMO burning is likely to happen if the center tube is not properly saturated. As much as I dislike using syringes and having them around the house, they seem to be a much better option for filling these big cartos. In my experience, I used the dripping method on a top-off and only got like 20 drops in which I thought was strange. Even though I dripped 10 at a time and waited in between for it to absorb, it dripped out the bottom after 20. Tried using a syringe and managed to get like another 1.5ml in there!

I personally think that using a syringe is the only way to get the juice evenly distributed in the carto. One can fill from the bottom up and finish by topping it off. I just wanted to mention that I'm talking about blunt-tipped syringes, so we're not talking about anything dangerous. I also like to spin the carto between my palms with the carto in various positions to get the juice even more evenly distributed.
 
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OK, well - I didn't dig out the syringe that I had....ummm, it's sharp tipped anyways but I did do an initial fill and did the palm roll thing and that helped a lot. Since the batteries aren't fully charged and since I just put the juice in, I only took a couple of puffs just to test it out to satisfy my curiosity.... Well, from those few puffs - this thing is WICKED! It is so easier to draw on than my old V4Ls that I had and the vapor was super incredible! I'll have to give it a little time to really know - but let me say that I am way more impressed in the first two minutes than I was after hours with my old kit. Not saying that it was bad, it just didn't do it for me but I am thinking that this might!
 

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The syringe is much easier to use. I get just a little under 3.5 ml in a new carto and a little less than 3 ml on my refills. I insert on the edge just just 1/2 inch or so down in the carto and put in one ml on each side and then wait a minute and insert the rest until it begins to pool at the top or until I get a drop out the bottom. I have never had a burnt taste on any of my cartos using this method. You can get a 5 ml syringe here for 1.50 with free shipping, they do ask that you buy more than one or something else because it cost more than 1.50 to ship. 5ml Filler Needle These have a round blunt tip so there isn't any danger of sticking yourself.
 
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Worth the wait huh vermonter16. I still use my KR808d-1 for testing juices to decide whether I want to use the echo carto on it because it would be dedicating 3ml. Glad your's finally arrived. The charge time is a bear but mine will last me two days.

That's a good idea! I really didn't realize how the two could be so different but they absolutely are! It was a royal pain the buttinsky to not even be a heavy vaporer and have a battery go dead within a couple of hours. OMG, I had so many batteries and cartos everywhere it was ridiculous. I think this will hopefully be as perfect as it can get right now.
 

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If your not a heavy vapor than one charge will last you a few days. You'll know when it's time to recharge when it blinks and you get no vapor. Time to refill carto is when you just get no vapor but it's not blinking. The echo cartos do work on the 808 batteries and the 808 cartos work on the echo battery (although both look funny).
 

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So if all goes well my Echo 650 will be here by Friday. Anyone know of any good cases? Since it looks like the best way to try out a new liquid is going to be to get some 801 cartomizers I would like one that can carry more than just an echo. Or maybe a better way would be to buy a DSE 801, suggestions on any of it?
 

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So if all goes well my Echo 650 will be here by Friday. Anyone know of any good cases? Since it looks like the best way to try out a new liquid is going to be to get some 801 cartomizers I would like one that can carry more than just an echo. Or maybe a better way would be to buy a DSE 801, suggestions on any of it?

I hope you are not confused about the 801. We only use the 801 drip tips on the Echo. You can use 801 attys or cartos but you will need an adapter. 808 cartos or 901 attys will work without an adapter.

Any of the ego cases will work fine with the Echo 650.
 
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If your not a heavy vapor than one charge will last you a few days. You'll know when it's time to recharge when it blinks and you get no vapor. Time to refill carto is when you just get no vapor but it's not blinking. The echo cartos do work on the 808 batteries and the 808 cartos work on the echo battery (although both look funny).

I'm curious, I've asked before but got no notice, for a disposable flavor-testing solution would the 808 cartos work for the echo? Or something else would work better? A very small cheap carto, even if requiring some kinda adapter, I can get a few dozen of cheap. I've been very interested in a practical cheap solution for this. I know nothing of the 808, ego, echo-e, etc that are mentioned around.

Alternatively I could get an all new cheap-o pv just to test stuff on.. but come on...
 
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I'm curious, I've asked before but got no notice, for a disposable flavor-testing solution would the 808 cartos work for the echo? Or something else would work better? A very small cheap carto, even if requiring some kinda adapter, I can get a few dozen of cheap. I've been very interested in a practical cheap solution for this. I know nothing of the 808, ego, echo-e, etc that are mentioned around.

Alternatively I could get an all new cheap-o pv just to test stuff on.. but come on...

I posted one post before you asked the question but you must have missed it.http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ego-type-models/189567-echo-thread-70.html#post3479010 Yes the 808 cartos for the volt or others works great on the Echo and are very similar in design only smaller. You can get them here with free shipping. Signature Series 808 Cartomizers
 

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I'm curious, I've asked before but got no notice, for a disposable flavor-testing solution would the 808 cartos work for the echo? Or something else would work better? A very small cheap carto, even if requiring some kinda adapter, I can get a few dozen of cheap. I've been very interested in a practical cheap solution for this. I know nothing of the 808, ego, echo-e, etc that are mentioned around.

Alternatively I could get an all new cheap-o pv just to test stuff on.. but come on...

The cartos such as the V4L, Bloog, etc are kr808-d1 threaded. That's the same threading on your auto Echo. A lot of people swear by the Boge 808 cartos in LR in particular and they are inexpensive compared to the bigger cartos.

If you used an Echo-E (manual battery one), still no problem. Just use any 510 cartos. I finally got ahold of an Echo Auto 1300 and I can use the tons of V4L cartos I had stocked up myself. I have to say I was cautious of how the auto would feel and I still search for the button but I am already liking the consistent hits I am getting.

Beats "the old days" (3 months ago :laugh:) when the 808 auto stick batteries just about all took a primer puff to get a decent hit. :)

EDIT: Sorry Tx, didn't mean to double you up there. I am a horribly slow typist and there was no response yet when I started replying. :blush:
 
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I've got so many different cartos, attys, batteries, adapters and chargers all with different connectors, I get confused quite often on what goes with what. lol

Somewhere there is a Venn diagram and a bar graph, there are always diagrams & graphs for everything lol
 

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Just came from inside with 'super' vaping for about 90 minutes and it was just fantastic! Yes....I can see this possibly curing me from analogs. I have 8 analogs left and yes I will smoke them but I am confident that the Echo is just what I needed! It produces so much vape and so easily!

Great to hear! :) I had no trouble with the anologs myself but it wasn't until these big battery, large horizontal coil carto units came out that I was finally able to give up the Copenhagen. I gota say, I never thought it would happen but with the Echo's and GO-GO's and Igo's, heck, there's enough choice for any preference and you can vape yourself silly with the amount of nic you get! I am really liking this auto though on my Echo. ;)
 
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