The Echo Thread

[DarthVper]

Thanks! Now hearing the reviews I get a moderate amount of vapor and watching the videos I do t get the vapor production that I've seen. Is it my juice? Currently using one that is 10% vg and the other I'm not sure about. It is the USA Mix custom china blend from madvapes. Now when I inhale I pull into my mouth stop then inhale the vapor in my mouth to my lungs. Is that right? Sorry for all the questions still very new to this.

PG is said to have more flavor, stronger throat hit, and is thinner juice with less visual vapor output. Pure VG is noticeably thicker and can clog up certain attys and fillers easilly, others it does not matter. On the flip side, some people seem to have allergic reactions to PG although not common. So far I prefer a 100% PG or at most 20% VG in my liquid, although I'm new and things may develop yet.

Some helpful discussions on this matter:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/197319-pg-vg.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/innovapor/196286-pg-vs-vg-ultramax-question.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ask-veterans/195931-vg-vs-pg.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/196466-pg-allergy.html

 

[GMalarkey]

The level of help and willingness to educate others here continues to amaze me. Thanks for the help

 

[thegoodkid]

been vapin strictly 80/20 menthol on echo carto on a Riva 901 batt. Two weeks in today, starting to change taste. new carto tastes better. question is. i'm thinking, should i order echo kit or new riva kit? I,m about 4 months into my three 750mah riva batts. i know soon, these will die. will my 901 attys fit on echo batts as backup hardware? (plenty of 901 attys). Also, there is a gap between my new echo cartos and 901 batt (where the cone would screw on) any ideas (adapters)? thanks echo nation. 7-2.

 

[txtumbleweed]

I would go with the Echo 1300 auto it is a nice setup. Yes the 901's will work on the Echo battery. Tony at cropduster has a spacer and adapter for converting Echo cartos to work on Riva batteries. You could talk to him and you just might need the spacer. He would be glad to talk to you regarding it i'm sure. Login : Cropduster901, Home of the B52

 

[SonnyCrack]

I got mine today.. VAPING HEAVEN! (got the chrome 1300).. It's the perfect auto battery.. Now i'm almost afraid that something will happen and I won't be able to get more batteries if they discontinue or something.. I'd love someone to make a mod of this with changeable batteries.. Do any of the vendors just sell the batteries by themselves?

 

[EtherMagic]

PG is said to have more flavor, stronger throat hit, and is thinner juice with less visual vapor output. Pure VG is noticeably thicker and can clog up certain attys and fillers easilly, others it does not matter. On the flip side, some people seem to have allergic reactions to PG although not common. So far I prefer a 100% PG or at most 20% VG in my liquid, although I'm new and things may develop yet.

Some helpful discussions on this matter:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/197319-pg-vg.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/innovapor/196286-pg-vs-vg-ultramax-question.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ask-veterans/195931-vg-vs-pg.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/196466-pg-allergy.html

Very true! I am a 100% VG vaper. I was sent some free PG with my Echo kits (not sure the ratio of PG to VG but THE juice is very thin, def much more PG), and the very first thing I noticed was how much more flavor PG has! The vapor was heavier but less of it.
I stop vaping PG over a year ago due to feeling a stinging feeling in my chest, I been vaping VG ever since and I never had that pain again.

I'm gonna try going back to a mix between PG & VG, gonna make a 50/50 split, see how this goes for me. I am really loving the flavor of PG, PG hits my throat much harder aswell.


BTW, I Vaped this through my 510, still have yet to be able to play with my Echo, still at work from 3pm this afternoon, it's almost 3am, 12 hours much too LONG!

 

[txtumbleweed]

I got mine today.. VAPING HEAVEN! (got the chrome 1300).. It's the perfect auto battery.. Now i'm almost afraid that something will happen and I won't be able to get more batteries if they discontinue or something.. I'd love someone to make a mod of this with changeable batteries.. Do any of the vendors just sell the batteries by themselves?

Cropduster has the B-52 mod that has changeable 900 mah 14500 batteries and is made for these cartos. It isn't auto but is real nice looking and made for these cartos. I have the bronze and with a chrome carto it looks really good. Cropduster B52 - $49.95 : Cropduster901, Home of the B52

Mtn vapor has 1300 batteries but wants 27.50 for one and just has black. D and B Gold may have them when his shipment gets in. He has some real good prices on the kits and cartos when he has them.

 

[EtherMagic]

I finally got home from work about hour and half ago, loaded my new Echo up, and BAM, I was hit with the greatest monster Throat hit and mass vapor I have ever experienced!!! I am stunned with how GREAT this baby hits! It's like breathing air, literally that is how smooth the draw is! I vaped so dang much the past hour that I actually got light-headed for the first time since analogs! This Echo is AMAZING! I do find myself unscrewing the Batt and wiping the batt and carto down every 10 hits or so, from fear of a leak, but not once was there any juice inbetween the 2. I blow air through the carto also eachtime to make sure there is no juice creeping up on my battery. I also toped off twice already, about 8 drops after every 30 hits or so, with no leakage either time. I can't say enough about the Echo from my first hour with it, I personally feel constant topping off will help with the life of the carto, but time will tell. Ok, back to vaping, and sorry about the one long paragraph, I'm on my iPod. I know I sound like a child in a candy store, but this is truely how I feel! O'yea, and the cutoff time is absolutly no problem, I stop for half a second between a massive hit, and the Echo recharges immediatly, just awesome! I'M IN LOVE!!!

 

[peacewillow]

I finally got home from work about hour and half ago, loaded my new Echo up, and BAM, I was hit with the greatest monster Throat hit and mass vapor I have ever experienced!!! I am stunned with how GREAT this baby hits! It's like breathing air, literally that is how smooth the draw is! I vaped so dang much the past hour that I actually got light-headed for the first time since analogs! This Echo is AMAZING! I do find myself unscrewing the Batt and wiping the batt and carto down every 10 hits or so, from fear of a leak, but not once was there any juice inbetween the 2. I blow air through the carto also eachtime to make sure there is no juice creeping up on my battery. I also toped off twice already, about 8 drops after every 30 hits or so, with no leakage either time. I can't say enough about the Echo from my first hour with it, I personally feel constant topping off will help with the life of the carto, but time will tell. Ok, back to vaping, and sorry about the one long paragraph, I'm on my iPod. I know I sound like a child in a candy store, but this is truely how I feel! O'yea, and the cutoff time is absolutly no problem, I stop for half a second between a massive hit, and the Echo recharges immediatly, just awesome! I'M IN LOVE!!!

Congrats and welcome to the Echo world. We all agree that its awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[IrishTexan]

You absolutely do not have to worry about leaks with this. Just do not top off while attached to the battery and blow out the tube and your done. I top off only when the hits start tasting dry to me, which can vary depending on how much I am loving my current juice. LOL I am still trying to find the few that I REALLY love. There have been days when I go all day without any need to top.

 

[Cisme]

I would go with the Echo 1300 auto it is a nice setup. Yes the 901's will work on the Echo battery. Tony at cropduster has a spacer and adapter for converting Echo cartos to work on Riva batteries. You could talk to him and you just might need the spacer. He would be glad to talk to you regarding it i'm sure. Login : Cropduster901, Home of the B52

To add to what tx has said, I have the adapter and spacer for my Riva and it works perfect. Looks good, too. And Tony is wonderful to deal with - very patient and so helpful. Don't hesitate to check with him.

 

[Eclipsed1770]

I got mine today.. VAPING HEAVEN! (got the chrome 1300).. It's the perfect auto battery.. Now i'm almost afraid that something will happen and I won't be able to get more batteries if they discontinue or something.. I'd love someone to make a mod of this with changeable batteries.. Do any of the vendors just sell the batteries by themselves?

Mountain Vapor is selling just the batteries if you need to get a replacement. They list both the 650mah and the 1300mah batteries.

Edit: they also sell the kits and cartos as well.

 

[Eclipsed1770]

Gotcha. No worries about it clogging the cartomizer up? I know folks on here have been talking about the vg being thicker and maybe causing issues. I'll have to check vapor bomb out.

I've been using a 60/40 cinnabun from gourmet vapor in one carto. I've gone through 15ml so far and picked up another 60ml while they are having a sale.

 

[txtumbleweed]

Mountain Vapor is selling just the batteries if you need to get a replacement. They list both the 650mah and the 1300mah batteries.

Edit: they also sell the kits and cartos as well.

His battery prices are pretty high though, 27.00. You would be much better off buying another kit. Bill at D and B Gold is selling kits for 45.00 with five cartos and a drip tip.

 

[SonnyCrack]

Cropduster has the B-52 mod that has changeable 900 mah 14500 batteries and is made for these cartos. It isn't auto but is real nice looking and made for these cartos. I have the bronze and with a chrome carto it looks really good. Cropduster B52 - $49.95 : Cropduster901, Home of the B52

Mtn vapor has 1300 batteries but wants 27.50 for one and just has black. D and B Gold may have them when his shipment gets in. He has some real good prices on the kits and cartos when he has them.

Thanks for the info, although I love the cartos, I love the battery the most. The automatic draw is the best I've had since quitting analogs.

 

[txtumbleweed]

Thanks for the info, although I love the cartos, I love the battery the most. The automatic draw is the best I've had since quitting analogs.

I agree, these batteries are awesome!

 

[GMalarkey]

I've been using a 60/40 cinnabun from gourmet vapor in one carto. I've gone through 15ml so far and picked up another 60ml while they are having a sale.

I'll have to go check that out, I've seen a few people posting about the cinnabun mix.

 

[IrishTexan]

Yes...just watch out for dead tastebuds...I zoned out for 3 days on a cinnamon mix and now I am dealing with my taste being almost 0 on everything. Starting to come back though. I am currently vaping butterscotch 60/40 from vaporrenu. My first from them and as my taste buds come back...pretty good. They were recommended to me along with Vapor Bomb from cropduster. Really cheap so I am hoping to like all that I bought. Just a heads up...both companies make juice upon order so steeping makes them better.

 

[GMalarkey]

Yes...just watch out for dead tastebuds...I zoned out for 3 days on a cinnamon mix and now I am dealing with my taste being almost 0 on everything. Starting to come back though. I am currently vaping butterscotch 60/40 from vaporrenu. My first from them and as my taste buds come back...pretty good. They were recommended to me along with Vapor Bomb from cropduster. Really cheap so I am hoping to like all that I bought. Just a heads up...both companies make juice upon order so steeping makes them better.

So with made to order juices you need to let them steep? Is there a specific time frame?

 

[IrishTexan]

I am still learning that...a couple I have been able to vape right away but were so much better a week later. I use my 808 to taste test and if not good then set back a week and then revisit. The vaporrenu I just got yesterday and went ahead and loaded a cart with the butterscotch because it tested okay and I could "taste" it but I can tell it will be better next week. It does have a slight off taste but vapable. I think a lot depends on the flavor of the juice...maybe a vet could jump in and help us out with that question. Anyone?