The iHybrid APV - A fully Customizable Genesis

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maleko

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hey everybody!!

Congrats on the trade maleko, I would trade almost all my vape gear for a ZAP, I just love my provari.

Faceless, you got my payment correct?

I like the look of the glass tips, but can't seem to bring myself to buy one because they just remind me too much of my days as an herbalist:oops: and I don't want anyone misconstruing what is is I am actually doing. I already have had lots of people ask, thinking that was such the case and I had to correct them. But hearing all these wonderful things, and with my new ASH and an IHY on the way I might just pull the trigger on a modestly colored non eccentric one. One ? about them tho, do their colors intensify the more you vape through them?


No they dont color change no resin in vape :laugh:
I say go for it! watch on hoosier E-cig and pinkspot for new batches of some pretty sweet ones.
 

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hey everybody!!

Congrats on the trade maleko, I would trade almost all my vape gear for a ZAP, I just love my provari.

Faceless, you got my payment correct?


I like the look of the glass tips, but can't seem to bring myself to buy one because they just remind me too much of my days as an herbalist:oops: and I don't want anyone misconstruing what is is I am actually doing. I already have had lots of people ask, thinking that was such the case and I had to correct them. But hearing all these wonderful things, and with my new ASH and an IHY on the way I might just pull the trigger on a modestly colored non eccentric one. One ? about them tho, do their colors intensify the more you vape through them?

It still shows pending but your package is ready to ship the moment it clears

Naps my 6 month old is the queen of naps, she is allowed but I get busted by mom. Lol

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lol, I always notice your ride in your avatar. You should try out paramotoring, its a blast!! You can pick up a good unit for about $6000, worth every cent!!
 

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Thanks elf. It's not likely I'll be touching my DID's anytime soon. I'm enjoying the iH way too much for that. Just trying to understand the difference in flavour between it and the Zen and achieving it. I'm confidant that the changes Face has made will go a long way to that end.

You should try to enlarge that air hole on the DID. It might make a lot of difference. Sorry for the off topic, Faceless.
 

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It still shows pending but your package is ready to ship the moment it clears



lol, I always notice your ride in your avatar. You should try out paramotoring, its a blast!! You can pick up a good unit for about $6000, worth every cent!!

Now I'm interested, I'll check youtube.

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Strange that you say this as I have been having quite the debate over at the vaporwall over the iHybrid being a copy of the Zen/Katana/Orion. I've been the only voice standing up for faceless over there. It hasn't been nasty but rather a healthy debate. Needless to say there are a couple over there that aren't too happy about the iHybrid. To each their own I guess.

I actually took the time to go read what the thread said and here is my response:

Its actually a mature thread with reasoning behind the debate, I didn't expect that. No matter what they say about me over there, its a classy bunch. Everyone will have their opinions and they should be able to post what they want.

There are a few post that have errors though. Pumas said he gave me ideas and that is false. Murdock gave me ideas and a few other on what they would like to see and I take notes. I will try and add what I feel would make the vaping community feel satisfied with a PV. I also didn't ask Zen for permission, this is false also. I live in a free country and I have fought and taken a bullet for it. Anyone can take anything from anyone and try to improve it, it the american way, we like to advance and most of the worlds technology is from here. iPads, iphones, PC platforms etc. Do you think the droid is a copy of the iPhone? No, its there own take of what would be user friendly. There are so many things wrong with calling something a copy unless it is a copy. A copy would be like me making a Zenesis and not putting a Zen logo on it and selling it for cheap, like China does. That is a copy. I took innovations from other PVs, crossed them and added my own stuff to it, thats it. I made this PV to satisfy me and put it out here for people who were looking for these specs in one unit.

They say its too high for an aluminum body, but fail to mention the cost of the machines and man time to make the iHybrid. It has a ton of threads and thats a lot of machine time and tooling. They say its the highest hybrid on the market, that is false also. Especially if you take in the fact that your going to pay $300-$500 for a hybrid on the classies due to not being able to meet demand. The thing with me is, I can go buy any machine I want to keep up with demand, so people dont run into that dilemma. They even bash ECF and if it wasnt for this site, I would have never gained a lot of information about vaping when I first started 3 years ago. This site is full of information and if you got banned, its probably deserved.

The atty adaptor will be kickable, I have yet to see that but I'm sure they could say someone had that idea a long time ago. Ideas are ideas. I have an idea to make a flying car! So anyone that comes out with one is just copying me :)

I'm not one for debate either and heres why. Usually people who debate are very stubborn, even if you prove them wrong 100%, they stick to their opinion, its a worthless cause in my opinion. I choose to surround myself with people who are relaxed. I would rather sit around and drink with people who joke around and have a good time than sit around and debate, thats a waste of beer.

It can be made a fail hybrid no matter what I would have done. Almost everything has been done already. If I put a press button on it, it would have been an orion copy (even though other mods have push buttons). Side button I would have been copying the GG, its a lose lose if you look at it in a negative mindset. Maybe I should have it activate to your fingerprint. If anyone uses that idea, its a copy from me lol. Every hybrid has a positive post, wick hole, negative post and a tank. Its kind of hard to not copy that lol.

Someone also said I would ban them if they talked trash in here, that is false also. I have no power to ban lol and I have never said that. Once again false claims.

I also did the aluminum so I could have different colors, so you could save money by buying colors instead of a whole new unit. What other hybrid has that? If the metal gurus knew you couldn't anodize SS, they would understand that philosophy. I am sorry no one did that before, but anyone that does that will be copying lol. See how its ludicrous to say copy?

Zen has been very supportive and I didn't put him in a corner either, thats another false claim. I never contacted Zen about my design at all. He saw it when yall did. I highly respect that man and if he isn't upset it makes me feel relaxed. I am looking forward to meeting him at vapercon and supporting US modders.

In short, anything can be sad bad about any design. Anyone could say the Zen is a copy of the katana minus the tank sleeve and locking switch. The point is, its not, we all have our own ideas of what we want and the iHybrid is what I wanted :)

one more thing: someone made a comment on the forum about why the i is in front of hybrid that its not proper english and then put LOL. Well, LOL isnt proper english either but it has a meaning, just like the i. So I put the i on the sleeve sort of like a trademark.

I appreciate the defense put up by some but I would rather you just not debate about it, its a waste of time and I have all the support I need in this forum. It is appreciated though :)
 

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I actually took the time to go read what the thread said and here is my response:

Its actually a mature thread with reasoning behind the debate, I didn't expect that. No matter what they say about me over there, its a classy bunch. Everyone will have their opinions and they should be able to post what they want.

There are a few post that have errors though. Pumas said he gave me ideas and that is false. Murdock gave me ideas and a few other on what they would like to see and I take notes. I will try and add what I feel would make the vaping community feel satisfied with a PV. I also didn't ask Zen for permission, this is false also. I live in a free country and I have fought and taken a bullet for it. Anyone can take anything from anyone and try to improve it, it the american way, we like to advance and most of the worlds technology is from here. iPads, iphones, PC platforms etc. Do you think the droid is a copy of the iPhone? No, its there own take of what would be user friendly. There are so many things wrong with calling something a copy unless it is a copy. A copy would be like me making a Zenesis and not putting a Zen logo on it and selling it for cheap, like China does. That is a copy. I took innovations from other PVs, crossed them and added my own stuff to it, thats it. I made this PV to satisfy me and put it out here for people who were looking for these specs in one unit.

They say its too high for an aluminum body, but fail to mention the cost of the machines and man time to make the iHybrid. It has a ton of threads and thats a lot of machine time and tooling. They say its the highest hybrid on the market, that is false also. Especially if you take in the fact that your going to pay $300-$500 for a hybrid on the classies due to not being able to meet demand. The thing with me is, I can go buy any machine I want to keep up with demand, so people dont run into that dilemma. They even bash ECF and if it wasnt for this site, I would have never gained a lot of information about vaping when I first started 3 years ago. This site is full of information and if you got banned, its probably deserved.

The atty adaptor will be kickable, I have yet to see that but I'm sure they could say someone had that idea a long time ago. Ideas are ideas. I have an idea to make a flying car! So anyone that comes out with one is just copying me :)

I'm not one for debate either and heres why. Usually people who debate are very stubborn, even if you prove them wrong 100%, they stick to their opinion, its a worthless cause in my opinion. I choose to surround myself with people who are relaxed. I would rather sit around and drink with people who joke around and have a good time than sit around and debate, thats a waste of beer.

It can be made a fail hybrid no matter what I would have done. Almost everything has been done already. If I put a press button on it, it would have been an orion copy (even though other mods have push buttons). Side button I would have been copying the GG, its a lose lose if you look at it in a negative mindset. Maybe I should have it activate to your fingerprint. If anyone uses that idea, its a copy from me lol. Every hybrid has a positive post, wick hole, negative post and a tank. Its kind of hard to not copy that lol.

Someone also said I would ban them if they talked trash in here, that is false also. I have no power to ban lol and I have never said that. Once again false claims.

I also did the aluminum so I could have different colors, so you could save money by buying colors instead of a whole new unit. What other hybrid has that? If the metal gurus knew you couldn't anodize SS, they would understand that philosophy. I am sorry no one did that before, but anyone that does that will be copying lol. See how its ludicrous to say copy?

Zen has been very supportive and I didn't put him in a corner either, thats another false claim. I never contacted Zen about my design at all. He saw it when yall did. I highly respect that man and if he isn't upset it makes me feel relaxed. I am looking forward to meeting him at vapercon and supporting US modders.

In short, anything can be sad bad about any design. Anyone could say the Zen is a copy of the katana minus the tank sleeve and locking switch. The point is, its not, we all have our own ideas of what we want and the iHybrid is what I wanted :)

one more thing: someone made a comment on the forum about why the i is in front of hybrid that its not proper english and then put LOL. Well, LOL isnt proper english either but it has a meaning, just like the i. So I put the i on the sleeve sort of like a trademark.

I appreciate the defense put up by some but I would rather you just not debate about it, its a waste of time and I have all the support I need in this forum. It is appreciated though :)
Attaboy Faceless!!
Hope to meet you and zen~ at vapercon
 

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Annnny waaaaaaay...
I one of those flying things but electronic and deadly silent.
Some blue sky camouflage
A bow holder shot gun holder
And ihybrid holder.
All that just to stalk the mail man
And possibly other adventures.
Oh that other thing, just be yourself and
FtW
I've been pissing people off for years.
Ain't killed me yet

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Don't let the naysayers get you down!

As a consumer I don't understand their attitude. When was having more choices a bad thing?

These people would probably complain about the sky being blue or the sun being hot.

Sigh, no shipping label for me. Back to waiting.


Face told me I was the first label printed...I'm assuming he piled all the others on top, because I have no shipping notice either....LOL. I'm so glad I ordered all kinds of other stuff, so I should have something coming almost every day!!
 

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lol with 3-4 wraps your provari need to be on 3v it must be ripping your throat of :D 6 wraps is perfect

I don't think it possible to use a 3 or 4 wrap on either version of ProVai, the chip can't handle anything less that about 1.3ohm (that's a guess cause its failed over and over at 1.25 and passed with 1.5 ohm). My sweet spot on a ProVari with a resistance of 1.5 to 2.0 is usually 4.1V but that also is with a dual coil at 1.5 and a single coil at 2.0., any higher V on those Carto's and I get a burnt juice taste. I don't have a Zap but I do have a DID and a 5 wrap at 4.1 V with an Ao of 1.9-2.1 tastes great to me but I take a few short draws and let it escape before my lung draw, just to get my coils cooking thoroughly and producing the most vapor. Experiences may vary.....:blink:
 

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Annnny waaaaaaay...
I one of those flying things but electronic and deadly silent.
Some blue sky camouflage
A bow holder shot gun holder
And ihybrid holder.
All that just to stalk the mail man
And possibly other adventures.
Oh that other thing, just be yourself and
FtW
I've been pissing people off for years.
Ain't killed me yet

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What's your address again loaded and ready :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

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I don't think it possible to use a 3 or 4 wrap on either version of ProVai, the chip can't handle anything less that about 1.3ohm (that's a guess cause its failed over and over at 1.25 and passed with 1.5 ohm). My sweet spot on a ProVari with a resistance of 1.5 to 2.0 is usually 4.1V but that also is with a dual coil at 1.5 and a single coil at 2.0., any higher V on those Carto's and I get a burnt juice taste. I don't have a Zap but I do have a DID and a 5 wrap at 4.1 V with an Ao of 1.9-2.1 tastes great to me but I take a few short draws and let it escape before my lung draw, just to get my coils cooking thoroughly and producing the most vapor. Experiences may vary.....:blink:

Yes mine has 6 wraps 2ohm 4.8v right now taste's nice :vapor:
 

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I actually took the time to go read what the thread said and here is my response:

Its actually a mature thread with reasoning behind the debate, I didn't expect that. No matter what they say about me over there, its a classy bunch. Everyone will have their opinions and they should be able to post what they want.

There are a few post that have errors though. Pumas said he gave me ideas and that is false. Murdock gave me ideas and a few other on what they would like to see and I take notes. I will try and add what I feel would make the vaping community feel satisfied with a PV. I also didn't ask Zen for permission, this is false also. I live in a free country and I have fought and taken a bullet for it. Anyone can take anything from anyone and try to improve it, it the american way, we like to advance and most of the worlds technology is from here. iPads, iphones, PC platforms etc. Do you think the droid is a copy of the iPhone? No, its there own take of what would be user friendly. There are so many things wrong with calling something a copy unless it is a copy. A copy would be like me making a Zenesis and not putting a Zen logo on it and selling it for cheap, like China does. That is a copy. I took innovations from other PVs, crossed them and added my own stuff to it, thats it. I made this PV to satisfy me and put it out here for people who were looking for these specs in one unit.

They say its too high for an aluminum body, but fail to mention the cost of the machines and man time to make the iHybrid. It has a ton of threads and thats a lot of machine time and tooling. They say its the highest hybrid on the market, that is false also. Especially if you take in the fact that your going to pay $300-$500 for a hybrid on the classies due to not being able to meet demand. The thing with me is, I can go buy any machine I want to keep up with demand, so people dont run into that dilemma. They even bash ECF and if it wasnt for this site, I would have never gained a lot of information about vaping when I first started 3 years ago. This site is full of information and if you got banned, its probably deserved.

The atty adaptor will be kickable, I have yet to see that but I'm sure they could say someone had that idea a long time ago. Ideas are ideas. I have an idea to make a flying car! So anyone that comes out with one is just copying me :)

I'm not one for debate either and heres why. Usually people who debate are very stubborn, even if you prove them wrong 100%, they stick to their opinion, its a worthless cause in my opinion. I choose to surround myself with people who are relaxed. I would rather sit around and drink with people who joke around and have a good time than sit around and debate, thats a waste of beer.

It can be made a fail hybrid no matter what I would have done. Almost everything has been done already. If I put a press button on it, it would have been an orion copy (even though other mods have push buttons). Side button I would have been copying the GG, its a lose lose if you look at it in a negative mindset. Maybe I should have it activate to your fingerprint. If anyone uses that idea, its a copy from me lol. Every hybrid has a positive post, wick hole, negative post and a tank. Its kind of hard to not copy that lol.

Someone also said I would ban them if they talked trash in here, that is false also. I have no power to ban lol and I have never said that. Once again false claims.

I also did the aluminum so I could have different colors, so you could save money by buying colors instead of a whole new unit. What other hybrid has that? If the metal gurus knew you couldn't anodize SS, they would understand that philosophy. I am sorry no one did that before, but anyone that does that will be copying lol. See how its ludicrous to say copy?

Zen has been very supportive and I didn't put him in a corner either, thats another false claim. I never contacted Zen about my design at all. He saw it when yall did. I highly respect that man and if he isn't upset it makes me feel relaxed. I am looking forward to meeting him at vapercon and supporting US modders.

In short, anything can be sad bad about any design. Anyone could say the Zen is a copy of the katana minus the tank sleeve and locking switch. The point is, its not, we all have our own ideas of what we want and the iHybrid is what I wanted :)

one more thing: someone made a comment on the forum about why the i is in front of hybrid that its not proper english and then put LOL. Well, LOL isnt proper english either but it has a meaning, just like the i. So I put the i on the sleeve sort of like a trademark.

I appreciate the defense put up by some but I would rather you just not debate about it, its a waste of time and I have all the support I need in this forum. It is appreciated though :)

Nice, Face, but I coulda said it in five letters... "Effem!"
 

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Face- any chance I shipped today or am I tomorrow?

Yours already shipped, there was no email lol, its in my PM's buried lol

Don't let the naysayers get you down!

As a consumer I don't understand their attitude. When was having more choices a bad thing?

These people would probably complain about the sky being blue or the sun being hot.

Sigh, no shipping label for me. Back to waiting.

Yours will be last because you asked for me to roll you a wick lol
 
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