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my wife would kill me if she came home and all her bath salts were gone
Better than chasing down a cat for its pee.
Ezkill, how goes the poop vape business?
Edit: How did we end up here again?
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Just blame it on the dogg, conniving bastage is always dragging in stuff to chew on.
Yea it's not bad. Steeping my first batch.
My dogs eat Wild Kangaroo and Red Lentil dog food so the flavor should be...interesting.
You say that like it's a bad thing..
It's like the Jelly of the Month club, it's the gift that keeps on giving.
It's like the Jelly of the Month club, it's the gift that keeps on giving.
Duuuuude
You know it is nice to come into a thread and not see all the hype over the newest vv out.
It's always the same....
WEEK 1: OMG NEW VV DEVICE PROVARI KILLERRRRR!
WEEK 2: My new VV broke down, back ProVari.
ProVape snickers quietly and keeps selling units.
Same here.. Whats bad is that I am so into VV devices that ALL my PV's are VV or VW, same with my wife's PV and her backup PV. With Genesis style attys you are almost always working with LR so the higher voltages don't do much, instead you just adjust your wrap.
Still, VW is cool on genisis when breaking in a coil. I have heard that some folks'll have there ohms jump up a few points after a week of use or so.
"Some folk'll never skin a cat and then again some folk'll, like Cletus the slack-jawed yokel..." -Simpsons
I was into VV and VW as well....
Then getting some GGTS's and Genesis stuff sort of knocked the wind out of those sails. Haven't touched a ProVari in over a month so they all sit in a rack looking lonely.
Imeo has his mechanical system worked out really well. The button on the GGTS's is for lack of a better word, magical. Add in his mechanical air control and a good coil on an Odysseus and it beats having VV or VW, I stopped using the kick. Between the juice and air controls it's simply a better vape then an Odysseus slapped on a ProVari. The kick while working well just cuts battery life so badly I'm not using it.
iHybrid, Zen and other genesis atomizers really don't need it at all when you dial your coil in. I've found my sweet spot and it's a great vape all through the battery range even though I know how much the wattage varies.
I really never thought I'd stop using my ProVari's...and then I did.
Then getting some GGTS's and Genesis stuff sort of knocked the wind out of those sails. Haven't touched a ProVari in over a month so they all sit in a rack looking lonely.
Imeo has his mechanical system worked out really well. The button on the GGTS's is for lack of a better word, magical. Add in his mechanical air control and a good coil on an Odysseus and it beats having VV or VW, I stopped using the kick. Between the juice and air controls it's simply a better vape then an Odysseus slapped on a ProVari. The kick while working well just cuts battery life so badly I'm not using it.
iHybrid, Zen and other genesis atomizers really don't need it at all when you dial your coil in. I've found my sweet spot and it's a great vape all through the battery range even though I know how much the wattage varies.
I really never thought I'd stop using my ProVari's...and then I did.
Wow and I already couldn't wait for this to arrive, and now it's worse, thank god mail from TX to MO doesn't take long lol, Maybe I will even have managed my first wick by the time the batteries get here!!
Yea just uhhhhhh don't get frustrated with the first coil and wick if you have difficulties. You'll get through it and after the first one it's much easier. You kind of have an epiphany after working out the first setup and you wonder why it was so difficult. That was my experience anyway setting up a DID on ProVari.
Others get them going first time no problem. Best piece of advice is spend more time then you think you need to oxidizing your wick. It will save you a lot of headaches if you don't have to deal with coil shorts.
Couldn't agree more... Barring a good battery, any problem you think you have with this thing will come back to your wick and coil... Switch problem? Nope check your coil. Doesn't seem like you're getting enough vapor or flavor, maybe the device isn't for you? Nope, check your coil...
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Watching what happens with the top cap off when you fire holding the device at your normal "vaping angle" will tell you EVERYTHING you need to know, you just need to know what to look for and how to deal with it...
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Watching what happens with the top cap off when you fire holding the device at your normal "vaping angle" will tell you EVERYTHING you need to know, you just need to know what to look for and how to deal with it...
Also a .99 package of rolling papers can save you a lot of frustration. I wish I had known that trick when I started out lol.
Wrap dry wick were coil goes in 2 layers of cigarette paper, stick it on with juice or plain PG or VG, wrap coil and fire.
Not only will it fire every single time but as you burn off the cigarette paper it leaves a perfect coating of oxidation right under your wick.
Wrap dry wick were coil goes in 2 layers of cigarette paper, stick it on with juice or plain PG or VG, wrap coil and fire.
Not only will it fire every single time but as you burn off the cigarette paper it leaves a perfect coating of oxidation right under your wick.
Thanks guys. Thankfully I have some tho limited experience wrapping the coil, so that part I am not too worried about. And I have been watching a lot of vids on rolling the wicks and reading a lot of these tips, so *crosses fingers* maybe it won't be too bad for my first go, but yeah I am not gonna give up.
Nancy: Here is what I do and I have so far had 100% success with every atty I have owned Zenesis/iHybrid/DID/Orion/Cobra.
Jack Frost: Torching the mesh on both sides before rolling, I do not quench in water although some do. I have found that it is not necessary. There is no such thing as over doing the torching. Torch both sides thoroughly. I hold the mesh with some needle nose so I can torch more of the mesh and the torch does nothing to the needle nose.
Fold one edge of the mesh (about 2mm), so that when you roll there is no stray SS wire protruding to short against your coil or center post.
On the iHybrid: Use a large size paper clip that has been straightened. Mine are covered with a plastic coating so I use two. One I remove the plastic coating by taking a knife and cutting it off by pushing the blade at an angle to the tip, till the plastic is gone from the straight end. The one I leave plastic on, I take and roll the mesh onto. Bend you mesh a bit before you begin so that it has a curve before beginning to roll on the paper clip. Lay the paper clip (with plastic) at the end that DOES NOT have the fold and bend the mesh around the paper clip, now roll the mesh and paper clip between your thumbs and fingers till the mesh wraps into a straw. Keep using your finger tips and thumbs to make it a tight wrap around the paper clip. Remove the paper clip with the plastic and stick the paper clip without plastic into one end and torch, do this several times, even do the ends into the straw hole. Flip the wick around and do the same on the other end.
Now take some juice or I prefer straight VG and put some on your wick. Light with your torch or a cig lighter (I use my torch cause I don't want the chemicals that come out of a cig lighter contaminating my wick). Let it completely burn off on its own the entire distance of the wick. Torch to orange again. Apply more VG (this is me, you may use juice), light it on fire but this time once it is lit, blow it out, light again, blow out....do this till it wont light and then torch orange again. Last time apply VG and light and blow once more, repeating the last step a second time. Finally apply VG or juice and don't burn or torch....only touch the very ends of the wick....touching it as little as possible. Insert into your iHybrid and cut the wick so its the appropriate height remembering it shouldn't touch the bottom. Insert the paper clip with plastic and wrap your coil, I don't use rolling paper but some do. If you apply a small amt of rolling paper, then pulse fire till the paper burns and then blow it off your wick.
After you wrap your coil, look at how your wick is sitting in the wick hole, if it is pressing hard against one side, use a jewelers screw driver (what I use) or the paper clip, and move the wick around so that it isn't pressing hard against one particular side of the wick hole. Even the best oxidation can be pressed through with enough pressure.
Good luck....
Jack Frost: Torching the mesh on both sides before rolling, I do not quench in water although some do. I have found that it is not necessary. There is no such thing as over doing the torching. Torch both sides thoroughly. I hold the mesh with some needle nose so I can torch more of the mesh and the torch does nothing to the needle nose.
Fold one edge of the mesh (about 2mm), so that when you roll there is no stray SS wire protruding to short against your coil or center post.
On the iHybrid: Use a large size paper clip that has been straightened. Mine are covered with a plastic coating so I use two. One I remove the plastic coating by taking a knife and cutting it off by pushing the blade at an angle to the tip, till the plastic is gone from the straight end. The one I leave plastic on, I take and roll the mesh onto. Bend you mesh a bit before you begin so that it has a curve before beginning to roll on the paper clip. Lay the paper clip (with plastic) at the end that DOES NOT have the fold and bend the mesh around the paper clip, now roll the mesh and paper clip between your thumbs and fingers till the mesh wraps into a straw. Keep using your finger tips and thumbs to make it a tight wrap around the paper clip. Remove the paper clip with the plastic and stick the paper clip without plastic into one end and torch, do this several times, even do the ends into the straw hole. Flip the wick around and do the same on the other end.
Now take some juice or I prefer straight VG and put some on your wick. Light with your torch or a cig lighter (I use my torch cause I don't want the chemicals that come out of a cig lighter contaminating my wick). Let it completely burn off on its own the entire distance of the wick. Torch to orange again. Apply more VG (this is me, you may use juice), light it on fire but this time once it is lit, blow it out, light again, blow out....do this till it wont light and then torch orange again. Last time apply VG and light and blow once more, repeating the last step a second time. Finally apply VG or juice and don't burn or torch....only touch the very ends of the wick....touching it as little as possible. Insert into your iHybrid and cut the wick so its the appropriate height remembering it shouldn't touch the bottom. Insert the paper clip with plastic and wrap your coil, I don't use rolling paper but some do. If you apply a small amt of rolling paper, then pulse fire till the paper burns and then blow it off your wick.
After you wrap your coil, look at how your wick is sitting in the wick hole, if it is pressing hard against one side, use a jewelers screw driver (what I use) or the paper clip, and move the wick around so that it isn't pressing hard against one particular side of the wick hole. Even the best oxidation can be pressed through with enough pressure.
Good luck....
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