The MEDUSA VRD Variable Resistance Dripping Atomizer Single & Dual coil Independent Control

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keelalagirl55

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the pics are coming shortly, right now tests are being done on the production heads before it goes into full production, so far all is good and the launch will be happening soon

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Any new news on this? Its well past the estimated release timeframe.
 

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Gets terrible reviews.. looks like a royal PITA to set up and work with. Pass.

Pass on what, a beta, they are not up for sale, we listened to actual reviewers including todds great review, scuba and krash and many others who tested it, and will have improvements made based on thoise actual reviews and not quick brush off like yours, then when ready we w ill have those tested once again.
 

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Pass on what, a beta, they are not up for sale, we listened to actual reviewers including todds great review, scuba and krash and many others who tested it, and will have improvements made based on thoise actual reviews and not quick brush off like yours, then when ready we w ill have those tested once again.

Maybe you're not selling them yet, but other vendors are. I didn't realize they were in a beta state though. I don't know why these other vendors are selling them then, if they're not even ready yet. Kind of a ripoff.

Guess I'll wait to see if they've made improvements to the commercial release of them. So far though, what I've seen the adjustable resistance isn't well implemented.
 

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Gets terrible reviews.. looks like a royal PITA to set up and work with. Pass.

You should keep in mind that Gotvapes is really great about working with manufacturers to get products developed and improved. Something like this is a brilliant concept and I'm sure that they will help turn it into something tons of people will enjoy. Go check out the other thread and you'll see that Bad has already taken note of a lot of positive and critical feedback to take back to the manufacturer.
 

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It's easy for someone to be a naysayer... but they seldom have anything of value to add.


I can see no way to improve on needing multiple coils if they are going to provide the features they are in the Medusa.... Yes, it's complex but that is why it is only recommended for an advanced user. Dumbing down something because of some average users have problems with it... takes away cool ideas from the advanced users and is in itself a stupid idea... Promote innovation... not mediocrity just because others find something is too difficult for them to figure out.
 
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You add plenty of value with that post, congratulations.

Who says you need multiple coils to have adjustable resistance? How would it be implemented? I have no idea, I'm not an engineer. I guess I just have higher standards for what I consider to be true innovation. Like I said, I thought it was a good idea, I'm just disappointed with the implementation. Maybe my expectations were unrealistic.

But you know, some people are easily entertained by jingling keys.... if you think that makes you 'advanced', so be it.
 
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I agree, give it time, something will come from all the help

It's not a knock on you guys. I think it's cool you're willing to work with a manufacturer and the feedback of users to try to improve upon something.

It just seems kinda mickey mouse to have all of those coils/wicks under the hood. You really only need one or two, set up for a sub-ohm resistance, with the variable part of it done down below with a variable resistor. What I don't know is what kind of variable resistors are available, and if they can adjust at such small increments at such a low resistance (the ones I know of are usually 1k and up pots), and whether or not they can handle the amperage of these battery mods.

Anyway, that's just my thought/opinion on it, I'll stop posting in this thread.
 

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Increasing the number of coils to vary the resistance in the manner that the Medusa does... increases the surface area that can produce more vapor and also spreads out the heat produced across the coil to a larger area so that any one spot on the coil is actually cooler so it becomes less likely that you burn the e-liquid. Just adding a resistor ( variable or not ) inline with the coil would cool down the heat across the coil but without gaining the surface area you would loose the increase of vapor.
 

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Increasing the number of coils to vary the resistance in the manner that the Medusa does... increases the surface area that can produce more vapor and also spreads out the heat produced across the coil to a larger area so that any one spot on the coil is actually cooler so it becomes less likely that you burn the e-liquid. Just adding a resistor ( variable or not ) inline with the coil would cool down the heat across the coil but without gaining the surface area you would loose the increase of vapor.

Perhaps one could use smaller gauge wire, or build micro coils?
 
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Perhaps one could use smaller gauge wire, or build micro coils?

That would certainly help some probably with assembly by making the wick/coil combinations smaller... but to get the best flavor you don't want to decrease the total surface area of a coil which also help keeps from burning the juice at higher voltage/power settings as well as providing more area to vaporize the juice.

Everything we do... comes with a compromise in some other area. Larger gauge wires take up more space for a particular resistance setting but can provide more flavor... smaller gauge is just the opposite of course with the advantage being they take up less room but at a loss of flavor since you have less surface area to vaporize with. Making a micro coil, ie just spacing the wires closer together but retaining the same gauge... can help and retains the same surface area but are trickier to build since you increase the chance of shorting across the coils that may end up touching.

The precursor to today's electronic cigarette ( not the first made, but the first using the design similar to what we use today ) used a piezo quartz hypersonic atomizer to vaporise the liquid from a fiberfil carto... The issue with these were cost and overall lifespan related... so we switched to using a coil to atomize with and the benefit was a much lower cost so throwing out a bad/dead one wasn't as big of a deal. So while using a coil design may just be "more of the same"... the advantage is in the cost savings vs a higher tech solution such as the piezo quartz as just one example.

The advantages of a coil are really hard to beat... they are low tech, easy to build ( relatively ) at least when compared to other technologies we have at present. Really the only downside I see to the Medusa is the complexity... and even with what I know, I can't think of something to better the concept without taking away from some of the advantages it does provide. There have already been several suggestions to improve the design without changing the concept it's built on ( some are posted in the other thread... like adding additional vents in a manner that each coil has good air flow by it )... check out the other thread for some of the other suggestions.
 
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