The more I learn, the more confused I get!

[Grad]

Let me preface this post by saying I'm either a bit dumb or a bit a of a scaredy cat. Please, be patient with me.

As I've mentioned in other posts, I've vaped before, but I fell off the wagon. I'm back on it again, but I seem to have reached the same stumbling block that I did before. I really want to upgrade from what I'm using, but I just get so confused about what is compatible with what that I end up giving up. I've been using pretty much the same set-up since I started with a few minor changes. I started with a Tornado tank, and I wasn't wildly happy with TH or vapor production. After a lot of research, I decided to try the eGo mega dual coil cartomizer, and I've been pretty happy with them, but I've still wanted to try out some other things.

So while it was cheap, I decided to pull the trigger and buy the Innokin iTaste MVP v2. I know it comes with the iClear30, but I'm trying to understand what other options I have, especially since I'm seeing several threads about it leaking. I keep reading different topics on ecf, vendor sites, and other places online, but I feel like I'm missing something. It's probably because it's so basic that everyone just assumes that I should know it. I would really love some help, whether it's in the form of answers or a shove to a thread/site that will be of use. Brace yourself for the stupid questions:
-This device has a 510 connection. Does that mean that I can use any atomizer/cartomizer/clearomizer that also has a 510 connection? Do I have to be on the lookout for something else so I don't fry it or something?
-Do I have to use a tank? I don't always want a full tank of a certain flavor. I generally have several cartomizers loaded with different flavors that I rotate throughout the day. Tell me I can continue my finicky behavior.
-If a tree falls in the woods and there is no one around to hear it, does it make a noise? Erm...wait

I really appreciate any help that anyone can give me. I just want to understand my toys.

 

[Btsmokincat]

Anything that is 510 or EGO threaded will fit on the MVP 2. You can adjust the volts or watts to suit your taste no matter what tank, cart, clearomizer or atomizer you use! I've had my MVP2 for 6 days and I am loving it!

 

[Stosh]

Any 510 or eGo threaded device will work...you could try any number of different atomizers, cartomizers, clearomizers, and see which fits your style, tastes the best. Look for what's on sale and try one or two on the cheap, everyone has their favorites. (mine is a Vivi-Nova) Your own sweet spot is what you need to find.

Trees always wait 'till someone's around...they're showoffs.....

 

[babyarm85]

If you want the good stuff you will have to pay for it. Cheap ..... tends to break down or not perform well. for v/v v/w, check out the evic by joyetech. for tanks and atomizers, check out vivi nova ll's or kanger protank ll's. I myself have advanced and upgraded. I currently use a nemesis w/ a kayfun 3.1 & hammer w/ a kraken.

 

[Grad]

That's what I needed to know. Thanks! I'm pretty excited to get this after hearing all of the awesome reviews.

 

[RubyRoo]

You can pretty much use anything you want to on the MVP. Some carto's do have a problem making the connection with the deeper pin on the MVP. You can pull your pins though on your cartos fairly easily if you have a hard time with connections. The iClear 30 almost never leaks. Just make sure all of your connections, especially the head, are nice and snug. And don't overfill it. It's a good tank though that is pretty reliable. Hope this helps!

 

[Seanchai]

Another MVP 2.0 owner here. As Btsmokincat said, anything 510 or Ego threaded will fit.

The threading on the native connector of the MVP is quite deep, however, and since the quality control of tank manufacture is, shall we say, inconsistent, occasionally you'll run across a *particular* individual tank that won't quite connect. As an example, two of my smoktech ARO tanks will fire just fine... one does not. Rather than fiddle endlessly with the pin of the problem tank, which can't be more than a micrometer too short, I bought a 510 to Ego adapter, which I keep screwed into my MVP 2 at all times.

Using an adapter accomplishes three things:

1) It saves wear and tear on the threads of the MVP itself.
2) All of my tanks fire every single time, even the ones that won't fire when connected directly to the MVP.
3) I don't have to mess with unscrewing the beauty ring any time I want to use an Ego threaded tank, and then screwing it back on any time I use a 510 tank.

So I'd highly recommend a 510 to Ego adapter, but it's not critical - the vast majority of 510 or Ego tanks should fire correctly when screwed directly onto the MVP.

 

[Grad]

Any 510 or eGo threaded device will work...you could try any number of different atomizers, cartomizers, clearomizers, and see which fits your style, tastes the best. Look for what's on sale and try one or two on the cheap, everyone has their favorites. (mine is a Vivi-Nova) Your own sweet spot is what you need to find.

Trees always wait 'till someone's around...they're showoffs.....

I have a lot less issue experimenting with different pieces as long as I know that it will be possible to use them with my MVP. Someone is going to be getting a lot of vapemail soon...

If you want the good stuff you will have to pay for it. Cheap ..... tends to break down or not perform well. for v/v v/w, check out the evic by joyetech. for tanks and atomizers, check out vivi nova ll's or kanger protank ll's. I myself have advanced and upgraded. I currently use a nemesis w/ a kayfun 3.1 & hammer w/ a kraken.

I'm going cheaper right now as I work my way up. I'm still trying to learn about everything, and I'm not willing to invest a huge amount until I have a bit more solid footing.

@RubyRoo: Good to hear about the iClear. I've never used it, so I am only relying on some of the other threads I've seen. I'll be careful to make sure everything is snug.

 

[spawnsharks]

Sound is a reciprocal thing. Sure, the air currents and vibrations are there, but sound is the ear picking these up and translating it for our brains. So, no, sound cannot exist without the ear. The conditions are there, but the 'observer' is the key.

I have no idea about the rest. I stopped in to get info on the subject.

 

[Seanchai]

Good to hear about the iClear. I've never used it, so I am only relying on some of the other threads I've seen. I'll be careful to make sure everything is snug.

Forgot to mention, ironically my iClear won't fire without the adapter, either! It's an inconsistency in tank manufacture thing, though, because most people's seem to work fine, and it's not a flaw of my MVP, because my *other* iClear also works fine.

It took me some messing around to figure out that what people meant when they said "don't overfill the iClear" was "don't fill it past about 2mls." There's a little wiggle room, but in terms of the functional capacity, it's much closer to 2 ml than 3. If you overfill it, you'll know immediately... it'll leak like a son of a gun till it gets closer to 2ml, and then vape like a champ thereafter with no leaking whatsoever. It's got the best flavor of any tank I've ever tried, but beware - it sucks up juice at an incredible rate. You'll be staring at an empty tank in no time. I don't vape anything expensive in my iClear.

 

[Grad]

Sound is a reciprocal thing. Sure, the air currents and vibrations are there, but sound is the ear picking these up and translating it for our brains. So, no, sound cannot exist without the ear. The conditions are there, but the 'observer' is the key.

I have no idea about the rest. I stopped in to get info on the subject.

Well that's the first time anyone has ever answered that question for me lol. Have a cookie! Hope you're finding the info you need.

Great info, Seanchai! I'll pick up an adapter the next time I place an order. You've probably saved me a lot of profanity when I have a tank that won't fire.

 

[KC33]

My MVP won't fire the second Iclear30 I bought but it will work on my Vision Spinner. Thanks for the heads up about the 510 to Ego adapter. Love the MVP and the IC30's.

 

[allin7days]

Let me preface this post by saying I'm either a bit dumb or a bit a of a scaredy cat. Please, be patient with me.

As I've mentioned in other posts, I've vaped before, but I fell off the wagon. I'm back on it again, but I seem to have reached the same stumbling block that I did before. I really want to upgrade from what I'm using, but I just get so confused about what is compatible with what that I end up giving up. I've been using pretty much the same set-up since I started with a few minor changes. I started with a Tornado Tank, and I wasn't wildly happy with TH or vapor production. After a lot of research, I decided to try the eGo mega dual coil cartomizer, and I've been pretty happy with them, but I've still wanted to try out some other things.

So while it was cheap, I decided to pull the trigger and buy the Innokin iTaste MVP v2. I know it comes with the iClear30, but I'm trying to understand what other options I have, especially since I'm seeing several threads about it leaking. I keep reading different topics on ecf, vendor sites, and other places online, but I feel like I'm missing something. It's probably because it's so basic that everyone just assumes that I should know it. I would really love some help, whether it's in the form of answers or a shove to a thread/site that will be of use. Brace yourself for the stupid questions:
-This device has a 510 connection. Does that mean that I can use any atomizer/cartomizer/clearomizer that also has a 510 connection? Do I have to be on the lookout for something else so I don't fry it or something?
-Do I have to use a tank? I don't always want a full tank of a certain flavor. I generally have several cartomizers loaded with different flavors that I rotate throughout the day. Tell me I can continue my finicky behavior.
-If a tree falls in the woods and there is no one around to hear it, does it make a noise? Erm...wait

I really appreciate any help that anyone can give me. I just want to understand my toys.

510 thread has fixed mechnical spec of the tank and vaporizer connectors. So if it's 510, it fits all other 510. There is also gender to consider, but most vendors use male for tank and female for vaporizer. You should be OK there.

Whatelse to look ot for? Resistance of the coil in the tank. It's specified with Ohm in a usual range of 1 - 3.5. Higher it is, low the coil temperature. In theory, you can over heat it to melt the plastic part of the tank, but most vendors stays within the limit.

Just for your curiocity, here is some math- Ohm's Law, V = iR (Voltage = current x Resistance). i is important. The Voltage of your electronic vaporizer and Resistance of you tank coil determines the amount of current that goes through. Here is an example,
5V device with 3 ohm tank:

5V = i x 3Ohm, means i=5V / 3Ohm = 1.67A. A(amp) is the unit of current.
Go here if you want to know more details. (Science behind EV - Proneodox)


My experience tells me to stay around 1.5A - 2.0A, which gives me a decent vape and longer battery life.



Happy vaping

 

[Seanchai]

My experience tells me to stay around 1.5A - 2.0A, which gives me a decent vape and longer battery life.

Just to prove that all vaping tastes are individual, I've found anything lower than about 2.4 very frustrating to vape on the MVP 2 - with the liquids *I* like to vape (dark and/or sweet) and the way *I* like to vape (a lot). I'm actually moving up to 3.0 coils the next time I order so that I can vape for longer without the liquid remaining in the tank starting to roast.

Battery life isn't really a concern on the MVP2 unless you're going to be away from an outlet for days at a time. It took me 3 days of heavy chainvaping to run it from fully charged to dead, and since it also works as a passthru, I just plugged it in and vaped for another hour or so while it charged back up.

Not saying there's anything wrong with your preferences - if 1.5-2.0 works for you, great. Just pointing out that low resistance isn't everyone's cup of tea... and the massive battery life on the MVP makes battery a virtual non-factor.

 

[Grad]

In theory, you can over heat it to melt the plastic part of the tank, but most vendors stays within the limit.

This is a bit of what I was worried about even more than just whether or not they fit together (although I really don't want to waste bunches of money on useless pieces). I just don't want things melting, burning, or setting the cat on fire. Thanks for the chart!

 

[Seanchai]

This is a bit of what I was worried about even more than just whether or not they fit together (although I really don't want to waste bunches of money on useless pieces). I just don't want things melting, burning, or setting the cat on fire. Thanks for the chart!

The MVP 2 in particular has so many layers of protection built into it that I can't remember them all - if anything goes wrong with it, it won't fire... so it should be impossible to melt, burn or set fire to even the cheapest tank/clearo/carto, unless multiple levels of protection all fail at the same time. The same isn't true of egos (especially knock off egos), which *can* get very hot and/or melt if something goes wrong. It's not common, but it does happen occasionally.

The biggest cause of overheating/things going boom, though, besides using cheaply made knockoffs, is battery stacking or otherwise doing things with naked lithium ion batteries that they're not designed to do, or that anyone working with naked lithium ions should know not to do (don't use unpaired batteries in pairs, don't charge them unattended, don't overcharge them, don't charge them near anything flammable, etc). None of those things is really an issue with the MVP because there are so many layers of protection built in, including overcharge protection, overheating protection, etc etc.

It's still a big battery, so you do have to use common sense... don't handle it with wet hands, vape in the tub, drop it off a building, stick it in the same pocket as your keys, hook it up directly to a car battery, etc... but barring anything like that, the MVP 2 is "smart" enough to protect us humans from our own moments of dumb.

 

[KC33]

Just to prove that all vaping tastes are individual, I've found anything lower than about 2.4 very frustrating to vape on the MVP 2 - with the liquids *I* like to vape (dark and/or sweet) and the way *I* like to vape (a lot). I'm actually moving up to 3.0 coils the next time I order so that I can vape for longer without the liquid remaining in the tank starting to roast.

Me too, after getting 1.8's for my PT2 I realized that the higher ohm coils were more suited to my vaping style. I can always turn the MVP up and I get longer life from 2.5-3.0's

 

[mahiney]

Sound is a reciprocal thing. Sure, the air currents and vibrations are there, but sound is the ear picking these up and translating it for our brains. So, no, sound cannot exist without the ear. The conditions are there, but the 'observer' is the key.

I have no idea about the rest. I stopped in to get info on the subject.

Oh I have to disagree, it's way too human-centric, even ear-centric. Trees and such don't need to exist for our sake, even being deaf, anyone can feel the tree fall. Sound being heard and sound being made can be 2 separate things.

 

[2tall]

Kanger EVOD

eGo threaded so it should work.

I love my kanger evod. It's not that expensive. Had plenty of options for atomizer resistance (I just use 2.5 ohm). Looks good, durable, never leaks, easy to fill, cheap to replace, cheap atomizers. Only drawback is it only holds around 1.5ml. But since you want different flavors then having a few filled might work great for you. I have Johnsons Creek Vanda (thick, 100%vg, sweet) and never have wicking problems. Great vapor production and decent throat hit.

Experience: Kanger T3 & T3S, Protank, Anyvape Davide, Vision CE4, others I can't remember.

Good luck! Stay off them analogs!

 

[Subdivisions]

Battery life isn't really a concern on the MVP2 unless you're going to be away from an outlet for days at a time. It took me 3 days of heavy chainvaping to run it from fully charged to dead, and since it also works as a passthru, I just plugged it in and vaped for another hour or so while it charged back up.

plus you can charge your cell phone off of it (if you brought the cable).