Repeating the question, since I don't think it has been answered yet. (Sorry if I missed an answer.) What is the differences between the Cannon and the, uh, Non-Cannon?
The Next Generation of IKV 510 Atomizers
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Repeating the question, since I don't think it has been answered yet. (Sorry if I missed an answer.) What is the differences between the Cannon and the, uh, Non-Cannon?
I dont think anyone can tell you exactly which one you will like better, I would try one of each. If you really dont want to do that, I guess if you care more about flavor then try a cannon and if you care more about massive throat hit then try a 1.5 510. Not sure of your experience level but be careful with the 1.5's because they are much easier to run dry then a 1.8 or 2.0. I have not tried ikens 1.5 but will be ordering some today. You can kinda think of the cannon as a 801 with the airflow and connection of a 510 but that is kind of a broad description. Also, it depends on what device or battery you are using because if you are using an ego then I personally would not be using a 1.5 atty.
now how to convince my self that 10 1.8s are necessary right away?...
Welcome to the next generation of IKV 510 atomizers
Hey guys and gals, as the wheel time spins as do we with our products. I want to introduce to you the Next Generation of IKV 510 Atomizers. These precious platinum fitted 510s are new main stay as our IKV standard. They have a higher density mesh to prevent leaks from overfilling. We fine-tuned heating cores to withstand strong currents over longer periods of time and also the test of time. The platinum fittings are now universal making them able to squeeze into any of the main stream OEM devices. They also have Beautiful Chrome finish being pleasing to your vaping eye (Ego silk style black coming soon) and solid laser etching to let you and your friends know that your vaping at premium levels, showcasing the type of Ω you are using. These will be available for as long as they prove the world over again in its magnificence. Come one come all and enjoy our latest edition of atomizer development.
Sincerely,
Isaac
They are all now available in the following Ω (ohm) ratings
• *NEW* XLR 1.5Ω
• LR 1.8Ω
• HV 3.5Ω
• *NEW* 4.5Ω
Nice to see you doing an official company introduction of your new creation, Mr. Ikenius
A quick question... Have you tried the new 4.5 ohm 510 at "7.4V"? I imagine that your throat would need to call in reinforcements to fight against the punches but I'm wondering how well it would hold up with that wattage, since I imagine you created it for those who prefer ice-cold vape at 6V
I seriously wouldn't recommend it. I was the 4.5Ω all day yesterday. While the vapor production is back to the IKV standard, the flavor is great on 6V but little feel, it's not ice cold just luke warm.7.4 started to scorch almost immediately.That, I'm still weary about. Remember back when I started the 5.2Ω devices. The 510's worked like vaporers dream come true, but died within 2 weeks of exclusive use. The 901 had 1 batch out of 3 that handled it just fine and the 801s gave us enough room to tinker with other components. Though since then a ton of experience was gained. The 801 will be making a comeback in time. The 510, If I do go forward with it..Well we'll be rolling the dice. If worse comes to worst, we'll have to make customers informed on the shortened life span. On one side it should not be a big deal as users that use other 1.5 models came to terms on what to expect from such high currents on their atties. On the other, I just don't feel right about something not having standard longevity. Hmm maybe a price reduction on them will be a good medium..I wanted to see the 5.2s back but will settle for the 4.5s
If you are careful Mustachio they should rock your boat quite nicely at 7.4V 12.2W
Good call Kansas! 1.8Ω on 5V? 13.8 watts of pwer surging through? I don't think that one is a good idea though. The most I would go is 4.7ish if the atom is on it's last leg but even that would inevitably destroy it.They're all meant to go at some point as a core is a solvent and wears away very slowly at the recommended usage, but going out of the noted recommendations is doing nothing but accelerating the coil's lifespan.
I'm sorry for not answering the question in detail the first time.
The Cannon is a re-work that derives from the 302 atomizer along with a 510 connection to better restrict the airflow. Much like a Fusion works. When you constrict the air flow ever so slightly,. it give the coil more time to heat up and disperse the vapor. Thus, adding a larger feel to it. Think 510 atomizer on Ego cone. The 302's trait is the High flavor that cannot be matched to a 510. The 510 is built around feel mainly. With these from the new batch, you will receive more flavor than you would with any 510 out there though.
Oh you know it! The current 510 2.5 is from the old, but they are dwindling fast. I do have another order going currently for a re-stock as these are flying at an exhilarating rate. Very exciting! The next shipment will have the brand new 2.5s with it.are you gonna keep the 2.5?
Again, they're way too different animals. The io6 has a better feel to it as it did inherit traits from the 306. The io6 was supposed to be the strengthened 306. If you ever have taken a 306 a part and knew what to look for, you would see that these are definitely made poorly as the components are just too weak to give full performance in the long run. Don't forget the 306 came out a very very long time ago when atomizers themselves were meant to be disposable. So to cut it short. All the pieces that I wanted to work on just gave us room in the small little body. Thus the io6 was born. There a few video reviews starting to surface now on youtube. It carries almost the same traits as the original 306, but you can expect a much longer lived life on it. They also inherit traits from the 901 in being liquid conservative and on par flavor unlike the 510 Cannon which really drinks liquid. The main problem with the Cannon is that it holds soo much liquid just like it's former 302 and when left in the upright position over time, it will leak due to gravity. We have found a fix for this specific problem and the bottom fed device problem for the next batch but again. When the masses are involved the true test begins.
The businessman wants to say Go for it! but me, I would say "don't think irrational'
I know for a fact these are good atties as they are brand new. Actually, these are the sets that made us famous in the 1st place.
Again, they're way too different animals. The io6 has a better feel to it as it did inherit traits from the 306. The io6 was supposed to be the strengthened 306. If you ever have taken a 306 a part and knew what to look for, you would see that these are definitely made poorly as the components are just too weak to give full performance in the long run. Don't forget the 306 came out a very very long time ago when atomizers themselves were meant to be disposable. So to cut it short. All the pieces that I wanted to work on just gave us room in the small little body. Thus the io6 was born. There a few video reviews starting to surface now on youtube. It carries almost the same traits as the original 306, but you can expect a much longer lived life on it. They also inherit traits from the 901 in being liquid conservative and on par flavor unlike the 510 Cannon which really drinks liquid. The main problem with the Cannon is that it holds soo much liquid just like it's former 302 and when left in the upright position over time, it will leak due to gravity. We have found a fix for this specific problem and the bottom fed device problem for the next batch but again. When the masses are involved the true test begins.
The businessman wants to say Go for it! but me, I would say "don't think irrational'
I was waiting for you to say that
When I said night and day, I meant night and day. Isaac met my niche to a T back in WW2, no (check head) wrong war, In the summer of '10 in my battle against the stinkies. The rest is history.
Always striving for perfection for us, on the journey he fell back slightly
I am glad he has returned to them.
Welcome to the next generation of IKV 510 atomizers
Hey guys and gals, as the wheel time spins as do we with our products. I want to introduce to you the Next Generation of IKV 510 Atomizers. These precious platinum fitted 510s are new main stay as our IKV standard. They have a higher density mesh to prevent leaks from overfilling. We fine-tuned heating cores to withstand strong currents over longer periods of time and also the test of time. The platinum fittings are now universal making them able to squeeze into any of the main stream OEM devices. They also have Beautiful Chrome finish being pleasing to your vaping eye (Ego silk style black coming soon) and solid laser etching to let you and your friends know that your vaping at premium levels, showcasing the type of Ω you are using. These will be available for as long as they prove the world over again in its magnificence. Come one come all and enjoy our latest edition of atomizer development.
Sincerely,
Isaac
They are all now available in the following Ω (ohm) ratings
*NEW* XLR 1.5Ω
Is there a reason these can't be made in 2.5Ω? Some of us VV-equipped vapers are best off going straight down the middle.
Quick questions.
Is the only cosmetic difference between old and new the color of the threading?
Is dewicking these recommended? I've always been a 306 user never really used 510s.
Now I'm off to order some. Thank you Isaac for the never-ending improvements.
Is the only cosmetic difference between old and new the color of the threading?
Is dewicking these recommended? I've always been a 306 user never really used 510s.
Now I'm off to order some. Thank you Isaac for the never-ending improvements.
De-wicking is something I'll never agree with. Believe me I tried to engineer atties this way a few times, even removing the bridge. What most folks do is directly dripping on a hot coil. Think hard water vs cold glass. Or say we do remove just the wick itself and when we go to drip we just hit the bridge and nothing else, next thing that happens is dry hits and dry hits on say LR is never a good thing as the wet bridge does nothing but be wet
no transfers or anything. I'm aware of some of the new atoms are coming bridgless now, but believe me. I'm doing it this way with my customers best interests. As for the fitting, I shaved off a thread from the previous and also thinned it out a bit so they can fit on OEM devices. De-wicking is something I'll never agree with. Believe me I tried to engineer atties this way a few times, even removing the bridge. What most folks do is directly dripping on a hot coil. Think hard water vs cold glass. Or say we do remove just the wick itself and when we go to drip we just hit the bridge and nothing else, next thing that happens is dry hits and dry hits on say LR is never a good thing as the wet bridge does nothing but be wet
Thanks for the reply. I've been using a 510 atomizer I got from you a few days ago and was wondering if it was the new or old one, it looked like the new ones have a chrome colored threading and mine were bronze?, so just checking which I had. Could just be the picture/lighting or my color blindness.
I removed the wick of 1 of the 2 510s I got out of instinct from using 306s, and I don't know why but not only is it slightly difficult to do compared to a 306 and I gave up trying to get it all out (I have crappy tweezers), I got hot juice shooting up into my mouth! LOL.
The one I didn't dewick is working amazing - I really love your 510s! Such a great atomizer with no hassle...can't wait for the new ones to come in, thanks for the quick shipping btw
if they are that much better I will be so astounded. Thanks again, I couldn't vape without your genius products.
Pretty sure it would be an old one since I am pretty sure he did not start selling the next generation until a couple days ago. I got some of the new ones coming in 1.5ohms and am really excited about them.Thanks for the reply. I've been using a 510 atomizer I got from you a few days ago and was wondering if it was the new or old one, it looked like the new ones have a chrome colored threading and mine were bronze?, so just checking which I had. Could just be the picture/lighting or my color blindness.
I removed the wick of 1 of the 2 510s I got out of instinct from using 306s, and I don't know why but not only is it slightly difficult to do compared to a 306 and I gave up trying to get it all out (I have crappy tweezers), I got hot juice shooting up into my mouth! LOL.
The one I didn't dewick is working amazing - I really love your 510s! Such a great atomizer with no hassle...can't wait for the new ones to come in, thanks for the quick shipping btw
From the horses mouthDe-wicking is something I'll never agree with. Believe me I tried to engineer atties this way a few times, even removing the bridge. What most folks do is directly dripping on a hot coil. Think hard water vs cold glass. Or say we do remove just the wick itself and when we go to drip we just hit the bridge and nothing else, next thing that happens is dry hits and dry hits on say LR is never a good thing as the wet bridge does nothing but be wet
Thanks for the reply. I've been using a 510 atomizer I got from you a few days ago and was wondering if it was the new or old one, it looked like the new ones have a chrome colored threading and mine were bronze?, so just checking which I had. Could just be the picture/lighting or my color blindness.
I removed the wick of 1 of the 2 510s I got out of instinct from using 306s, and I don't know why but not only is it slightly difficult to do compared to a 306 and I gave up trying to get it all out (I have crappy tweezers), I got hot juice shooting up into my mouth! LOL.
The one I didn't dewick is working amazing - I really love your 510s! Such a great atomizer with no hassle...can't wait for the new ones to come in, thanks for the quick shipping btw
You got the old batch whic BTW = good, not great but good. As good as you can't get elsewhere, Wrt de-wicking" Don't the which serves a purpose. I only de-wick 306s, and I am not sure why.
I have to agree with your disagreeing.
I don't have a problem with dewicking, other than I've found it to be a lot of trouble for no gain.
Debridging, on the other hand, is roughly the same amount of trouble; the only effect I've noticed for it is to create an atty that holds two drops max, and floods on three.
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