The other American snus....not Camel or Marlboro

[asidrave]

Klondike

Nordic

Grand Prix

has anyone here tried them? how do they compare to swedish snus?

 

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Klondike

Nordic

Grand Prix

has anyone here tried them? how do they compare to swedish snus?

Tried a Klondike at the 'baccy mart. Not sure if it had any nic, but if it did, I sure didn't feel a tickle. ad2covert (a regular around these parts) used the Nordic Ice for a while and had to do 2 at a time to feel it made any kind of a difference. That's the best I can help.

 

[asidrave]

Tried a Klondike at the 'baccy mart. Not sure if it had any nic, but if it did, I sure didn't feel a tickle. ad2covert (a regular around these parts) used the Nordic Ice for a while and had to do 2 at a time to feel it made any kind of a difference. That's the best I can help.

hmmmm....so klondike and nordic are similar to what you expect with camel and marlboro snus? somewhat doesnt surprise me but was hoping comparable to swedish snus

im reading reviews on northerners site on those snus...very disapointing as well

 

[hittman]

I tried the grand prix once. I tried one portion and threw the can away. It was disgusting to me. I think I got the one with the blue label on it.

 

[asidrave]

ya know it always makes wonder..........does BT want snus to fail? they want everyone to stay smoking.

just like in the early 90's with electric cars....the auto industry wanted the electric cars to fail from the start..theres more to it of course

 

[Vaporer]

Dave, does make one wonder huh?
With all the proposed doom thins hanging over us addicts I think we should at least look into all possibilities.
Might want to start with these and see what we can find on their process, TSNA's levels and such.
I'll have to keep an eye out for some in my area. If you've read many of my posts you know I'll say there is always something we can look at, test or try. lol

 

[Dredbull]

doing a passible or even enjoyable recreation for our own use can be tedious.

either snus or snuff I know I have almost melted my face off playing with menthol crystals.

 

[RoKeM]

I like the Nordic a lot, but I do have to use two pouches to get a good kick! I’m still a bigger fan of the Swedish Snus!

 

[Stubby]

This article covers some of it

Nordic American Smokeless v2 - Is there Life after Taboca?

This part is about Grand Prix. Never had it and not recommended according to the article.

About a year ago, I finally got ahold of a can of Grand Prix. I knew about Snus AB and I quickly saw they had no expiration dates. What I didn't know at the time was that Grand Prix was fermented, not steam pasteurized. I do know that I became ill after using three of the tasteless dried out portions.

According to NAS, Nordic Ice Snus has a 12 month shelf life and is rotated by UTSM every 6 months. I asked NAS how UTSM Reps knew when to pull the product if it didn't have expiration dates. I was told there was a special code on the cans indicating age. I have studied the Nordic Ice cans very keenly, and unless you need special glasses or black light to see the code, there is no unique code on the cans. Just the UPC code and Swisher's tobacco license number.

Expired steam pasteurized snus will begin to deteriorate in taste and nicotine content. Even if you froze it (you can with Swedish/Scandinavian snus for one year), starting around 14 months the nicotine will begin breaking down and the flavor will change. The TSNA levels will still be still be what they were when they rolled out of the factory, though.

 

[Brewster 59]

ya know it always makes wonder..........does BT want snus to fail? they want everyone to stay smoking.

just like in the early 90's with electric cars....the auto industry wanted the electric cars to fail from the start..theres more to it of course

Actually from what I read, Americian snus is made with the idea that people will use it in situations where they cant smoke but they continue to smoke in places where they can. Swedish snus is made with the idea of being used instead of smoking. I also read one of the big differences is that Swedish snus adds bicarbs in their snus which enhanses the kick that it gives. Americian snus doesnt use bicarbs mostly they want you to keep smoking or use a lot more snus.

 

[Vaporer]

Brewster,
The bicarb helps with the pH and adsorbing nic as it changes it to freebase.
Exo and I had a discussion on this and you can do much better using Sodium Carbonate instead of Sodium Bicarbonate(Baking Soda).
Good thing is you can change Baking soda to sodium carbonate by putting it in the oven and heating it @ 400*F for 2 hrs. Use glass to hold it, not metal.

 

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Actually from what I read, Americian snus is made with the idea that people will use it in situations where they cant smoke but they continue to smoke in places where they can. Swedish snus is made with the idea of being used instead of smoking.

You hit the nail on the head Brewster. BT wants people to buy their snus for the times they can't smoke, then use cigarettes when they can. Swedish snus is a true alternative to smoking period.

 

[Vaporer]

Brew, I have to agree 110%.
They dont want us to quit. They want our money till they can get more of our money.
If they didnt flavor kill the american stuff no one would use it.
More Sugar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!