The Pure Nicotine Market

[Projectguy]

Can anyone help me understand the Pure Nicotine Market specifically:

NOTE: I'm not talking about suppliers of e juice I'm interested in the source and the manufacturers production and sales

1. Estimate of the size of global pure nicotine market in litres pa
2. Production history over last 10 years
3. Source of supply/production my research indicate in terms of size are China, India and USA.
4. Manufactures price history
5. Amount of tobacco required to produce 99.99% pharmaceutical grade nicotine
6. Minimun size production facility in litres pa

Plus any other information with respect commercial / "industrial" production of pure pharama grade nicotine.

Thanks

 

[thinkingaboutit]

You might get better answers in the DIY juice forum.

 

[THE]

Not sure what you're trying to do (is it research, is it for personal use, is it for business reasons) .. But if you're going to be working with or employing people to work with nicotine in pure form, it's one of the most dangerous substances in the world .... please be extremely careful

 

[chaos-7]

As for myself, there is no way that I would work with pure nicotine.

 

[ohai]

You might find at least some of the answers you are looking for in the stickies here:

DIY E-Liquid

 

[Projectguy]

You might get better answers in the DIY juice forum.

Thanks; on my way.......

 

[Projectguy]

Not sure what you're trying to do (is it research, is it for personal use, is it for business reasons) .. But if you're going to be working with or employing people to work with nicotine in pure form, it's one of the most dangerous substances in the world .... please be extremely careful

Thank you for the caution it is appreciated. With respect your question.....it's just business

 

[Projectguy]

Thanks; on my way.......

Nope that wasn't it.

Maybe this might help. Lets say hypothetically I was an investment banker (I am......sort of) who thought that the market conditions in the vaping market might be right to consider the possibility of building a nicotine extraction plant in North America instead of importing it from China or somewhere else. Better quality control, lower transportation costs, value added stays NA.

Such a hypothetical concept would require a certain amount of due diligence which is what I am theoretically doing.

PS I'm also paranoid.

 

[iamtumus]

i'll work there for APVs and juice

 

[mwa102464]

Nope that wasn't it.

Maybe this might help. Lets say hypothetically I was an investment banker (I am......sort of) who thought that the market conditions in the vaping market might be right to consider the possibility of building a nicotine extraction plant in North America instead of importing it from China or somewhere else. Better quality control, lower transportation costs, value added stays NA.

Such a hypothetical concept would require a certain amount of due diligence which is what I am theoretically doing.

PS I'm also paranoid.

We couldn't produce the Nic here at anywhere near the cost they do in China = so its why its not done in short answer, you would lose your ... and couldnt compete with all the people importing it at a 10th of the cost they would outsell you 1000 to 1

 

[36tinybells]

Hypothetically I would bet the big boys would fight tooth and nails to stop you. But good luck. I would very much like to see you succeed (on your hypothetical quest).

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

I know of a Chinese supplier that sells pure nicotine—something akin to selling weapons-grade plutonium on street corners—but can't so much as mention their name, because they're an ECF persona non grata in the extreme. Aside from providing pure nicotine, they continue to offer e-liquid spiked with prescription erectile dysfunction and weight-loss pharmaceuticals

If you insist on the pure stuff, get yourself one of these:

 

[ohai]

Nope that wasn't it.

Maybe this might help. Lets say hypothetically I was an investment banker (I am......sort of) who thought that the market conditions in the vaping market might be right to consider the possibility of building a nicotine extraction plant in North America instead of importing it from China or somewhere else. Better quality control, lower transportation costs, value added stays NA.

Such a hypothetical concept would require a certain amount of due diligence which is what I am theoretically doing.

PS I'm also paranoid.

Hypothetically, I'd think I would start by finding and researching the top individual suppliers themselves. I'd also want to look into government regulations regarding worker safety and insurance requirements regarding the production, handling and shipping of hazardous chemicals. These things may contribute to making the whole idea very cost prohibitive in this country as opposed to a similar operation in China.

Hypothetically speaking, I would love to see you succeed in your theoretical endeavor, I'm just not sure it would work out well in practice.

 

[nanovapr]

Go to North Carolina and talk to Randy at RTSvapes.

 

[Projectguy]

We couldn't produce the Nic here at anywhere near the cost they do in China = so its why its not done in short answer, you would lose your ... and couldnt compete with all the people importing it at a 10th of the cost they would outsell you 1000 to 1

Why EFC Guru?

 

[Projectguy]

Before I start THANK YOU for your input. Thinking, concepts need to tested.

Hypothetically, I'd think I would start by finding and researching the top individual suppliers themselves. [QUOTE/]

The Chinese suppliers? Done that zero, nada, blanco. North American suppliers? Please point me in the right direction I almost broke my Google looking.

I'd also want to look into government regulations regarding worker safety and insurance requirements regarding the production, handling and shipping of hazardous chemicals.

Agreed that in NA those requirements may prove expensive however in certain jurisdictions those costs can be offset by government grants and support subsidies for "agricultural" activity.

These things may contribute to making the whole idea very cost prohibitive in this country as opposed to a similar operation in China.

Hypothetically speaking, I would love to see you succeed in your theoretical endeavor, I'm just not sure it would work out well in practice.

I believe it can be done if the numbers work but need the numbers.

 

[Projectguy]

Hypothetically, I'd think I would start by finding and researching the top individual suppliers themselves. I'd also want to look into government regulations regarding worker safety and insurance requirements regarding the production, handling and shipping of hazardous chemicals. These things may contribute to making the whole idea very cost prohibitive in this country as opposed to a similar operation in China.

Hypothetically speaking, I would love to see you succeed in your theoretical endeavor, I'm just not sure it would work out well in practice.

Go to North Carolina and talk to Randy at RTSvapes.

I certainly will do that ...tankx

 

[Myk]

I don't have the answers to your questions but I know there is incorrect information here.
RTS Vapes uses US nicotine made in their own state. It is not appreciably more than a place that allegedly sells Chinese nicotine.

If you want to invest in nicotine manufacture you would be looking at chemical labs.

 

[Projectguy]

Hypothetically, I'd think I would start by finding and researching the top individual suppliers themselves. I'd also want to look into government regulations regarding worker safety and insurance requirements regarding the production, handling and shipping of hazardous chemicals. These things may contribute to making the whole idea very cost prohibitive in this country as opposed to a similar operation in China.

Hypothetically speaking, I would love to see you succeed in your theoretical endeavor, I'm just not sure it would work out well in practice.

I don't have the answers to your questions but I know there is incorrect information here.
RTS Vapes uses US nicotine made in their own state. It is not appreciably more than a place that allegedly sells Chinese nicotine.

If you want to invest in nicotine manufacture you would be looking at chemical labs.

I agree with your assessment. My issue right now is to find them. The only one I've been able to identify is out of India, Alchem with a rep office in the USA. It was an odd conversation which will be the subject of a Chapter to be written in my daily vaping adventures.

 

[Projectguy]

Hypothetically, I'd think I would start by finding and researching the top individual suppliers themselves. I'd also want to look into government regulations regarding worker safety and insurance requirements regarding the production, handling and shipping of hazardous chemicals. These things may contribute to making the whole idea very cost prohibitive in this country as opposed to a similar operation in China.

Hypothetically speaking, I would love to see you succeed in your theoretical endeavor, I'm just not sure it would work out well in practice.

I certainly will do that ...tankx

DId it waiting for Monday