Only a matter of time before "somebody" falls "sick" from vaping these e-juice manufacturers before the authorities start to clamp down and regulate e-juice manufacturing. More restrictions and more expensive e-juice.
The State Of E-Juice
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Few things are regulated more in America than food, yet people get food poisoning and any other number of food borne illnesses every day.
If you don't like the way a company does business, don't buy from them, write a review, move on.
Welcome to ECF by the way
If you don't like the way a company does business, don't buy from them, write a review, move on.
Welcome to ECF by the way
What is this "wild west" nonsense? While there may not be any e-liquid specific regulations, it's still a consumer product being manufactured, sold and consumed in the US. You can't just put anything in a liquid, if you put something known to be harmful in, and it harms someone, you'll get sued. If someone gets sick from your negligence, you'll get sued. There is no "wild west" in America, just some areas that haven't been hit by bureaucracy yet. Don't worry, the regs are coming, soon you'll have nice and safe "tobacco" or "menthol" flavor, in sealed cartos, brought you you by those who care about your health, Philip Morris and RJ Reynolds.
Couple this with the original concern about liquid quality, and you have the Mother of All Arguments for learning how to DIY absolutely everything. This is one of the big reasons I got into pure mechanical mods and DIY juice. You can buy PG at Tractor Supply and VG at Wal-Mart. A mechanical mod is just a battery in a tube with a switch... and the early ones were literally made from gutted flashlights (for which Li-Ion and IMR batteries will ALWAYS be sold). I've got a nice stockpile of 510 connectors and a few rock-solid RDA's; RCA plugs can also work as a connector in a pinch, and atty's can be made from scratch with a few tools. Nice attys if you have access to a drill press and a lathe. Nichrome wire has a lot of industrial applications other than ecigs, and will always be around.
In short, everything you need to build your own rig & mix your own juice is available online, and 99% of that for other purposes. It's ban-proof. Suck it, nanny-staters.
Everything except the nicotine... but then there are lots of pharmeceuticals that are 'banned' in the U.S. right now, and are only a short drive to Mexico or Canada away. I've got 2 years worth of 100mg nic in the freezer as we speak, and if it comes to that, well... I'll brave a couple hours in Tijuana 5 times a decade. Wouldn't you?
No, considering it's more than 2,000 miles away, and Canada is more than 800 miles away -- and isn't vaping frowned on *officially* in both places anyway? But I have 4 yrs of nic in the freezer, and adding more as long as I can.
Andria
what do you mean by clean room?
what do you mean by people sneezing and coughing all over
the place? in a....,a......,a....,warehouse no less.
its a wonder any of us are still alive.
mixing such chemicals as PG and VG both having
excellent antibacterial and viral qualities can be
tricky.
still its interesting to note that there hasn't been
one (as in zero) reported case of any pathogen
being transmitted via e-juice ever.
even the stuff made in some dark,damp and moldy
cobweb infested basement by that guy with the runny nose
and dirty fingernails who is constantly scratching himself
in unmentionable places.
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mike
what do you mean by people sneezing and coughing all over
the place? in a....,a......,a....,warehouse no less.
its a wonder any of us are still alive.
mixing such chemicals as PG and VG both having
excellent antibacterial and viral qualities can be
tricky.
still its interesting to note that there hasn't been
one (as in zero) reported case of any pathogen
being transmitted via e-juice ever.
even the stuff made in some dark,damp and moldy
cobweb infested basement by that guy with the runny nose
and dirty fingernails who is constantly scratching himself
in unmentionable places.
regards
mike
If you got Nic stored away, have access to pharmaceutical grade PG, VG and you can get flavors, you are ready to go like me, and be able to tell the nanny government to stuff it when they come up with their new regulations and try to turn everybody else into worthless cigalike puffers. But hey, big Pharma and big tobacco will be very happy.
Yeah, I'm thinking the only thing I need at this point (other than more nicotine for as long as I can) are some insulator and o-ring sets for my kayfuns, so I can keep them working properly; o-rings will always be available, but I dunno about the insulators. All the other stuff is readily available for all sorts of uses (even the PG and VG and flavors!). And although I just got 30ml of WTA which will probably last me thru the summer, with my monthly-decreasing dose, I'll probably grab another bottle of that, for just in case.
The goobermint will NOT force me back to either cigarettes, or crummy cigalikes.
Andria
we shouldnt demand anything.... we drive the market by buying from who we believe offers a good product... if we purchase from reputable dealers, then the makers of juice who do not follow the norm will be on their way out due to no sales.... if one doesnt like a product due to labeling, process of making a juice, etc... then dont buy it. But what amazes me is that so many people smoked for so many years putting all sorts of toxins into their system and didnt say anything about it or fuss about it to companies making the ciggies about removing said toxins are now fussing about juice needing to be "sterile"...
I cant even count how many times Ive gotten my digestive system torn up from eating at/from fast food burger places... obviously the FDA isnt keeping things on the straight and narrow with places of this nature.... even with all the regulations.
It doesn't need to be sterile. But having left behind all those toxins, I don't want to go putting in any new ones, and I think that's the general consensus -- even if some of us didn't start for health reasons (like me), we still managed to ditch or dramatically lessen our cigarette consumption, so why jump from the frying pan into the fire?
But thinking the gov't is capable of *reasonable* regulation... hahahahahahahahaha... you clearly haven't lived in America very long.
Andria
seems to me its an all or nothing thing with the government when it comes to regulations.... do it all their way or you get nothing
I got a great laugh from post #27----thank you
something about a cobweb infested basement with dirty fingernails and scratching....
Bahahahahahahahah
something about a cobweb infested basement with dirty fingernails and scratching....
Bahahahahahahahah
A picture of who makes my e juice
safe to say Cambodian Breast Milk is not your ADV 
I've never tried it myself ... not sure what their mixing/extraction methods are
I've never tried it myself ... not sure what their mixing/extraction methods are
I mostly DIY, but when I do buy vendor juice I will only buy from vendors I know and trust, who do use a clean room. I refuse to buy from any company that uses colouring or other needless things in their juices, and I want to see the results of testing for diacetyl and other diketones. They also must use child proof caps. If they don't then they don't get my money. I also want them to be advocating as sorry why should I and others do all the work for them to be able to continue to make money off us.
As to the trademarks this was posted in CASAA FB group today General Mills, Girl Scouts Go After Makers Of Liquid Nicotine Over Trademarked Names – Consumerist
As to the trademarks this was posted in CASAA FB group today General Mills, Girl Scouts Go After Makers Of Liquid Nicotine Over Trademarked Names – Consumerist
It does seem to me that anyone making ejuice in the USA should be familiar with the concept of "trademark"... and the penalties for infringing them.
Andria
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