Also i dont think you understand what im asking kiwivap, shorting a vamo doesnt destroy it forever it just shuts it off, i want to know whats wrong and why. Whats going on is not indicative of a short, when the vamo shorts it says "low load" so if you dont have anything useful to add why are you even perusing my threads, dont you have anything better to do than harass random noobs on a e cig forum? Things must be pretty boring for you Aussies (hehe).