the Vmod

[Fernand]

The replacement bottle I just put on is made of a thicker plastic. That's good: stronger. It also seems to seal better in the head. My Vmod is again dry as a bone.

But here's the surprise. The I.D. of the bottle neck is made smaller by that extra thickness times two. A thick juice is now hard to pour into the bottle without spilling over, I'm having to use a syringe. Then it has trouble feeding because a "membrane" of juice/air forms in the narrow neck. It's harder to get that burp bubble when you tip, and so it's harder to get juice into the chamber. I was testing to see how long a Vertical Coil Carto lasts if you chain-vape it but don't over or under juice it (5 days so far on a Boge 2.0). I though it was dying. Not. But it does require a change of squirshing technique, like squeezing the bottle a bit when it's inverted. Not a big deal, but a heads-up for VG juicers.

I've found that with the right Delrin drip tip I can hold the Vmod with my teeth and let it hang out of my mouth like a pipe, occasionally reaching over to push the button. Talk about compulsion! If it was automatic I'd probably go through 3 times as much juice.

Simple apparatus for modifying cartos to use on Vmod. Thank you, Home Depot. ;-)

 

[ahdex]

recommended liquid to go wit v-mod 2.5omhs...

im using dekang ry4 but really not much taste in it so need something to give me more flavour...

anyone has any idea how to prevent the 1.5ohms atty from burning my liquid, no matter how small pulls i take it still produces a burning taste.

 

[enVmyIX]

Ok, so I've been using my Vmod for about a month or so without any problems but yesterday I had the unit fatally malfunction on me.

I gave a bath, which I do every couple of days and after drying it thoroughly and putting it back together it would not fire. I took out the shell thinking the firing pin might be out of place, but it wasn't, so i tried vaping it without the shell and i started to see smoke come out from the spring. It seems like the circut broke at the spring and burned it along with some of the battery covering.
I tried to realign the spring with some needle nose pliers but it was so burnt that it snapped off with very little force.

Has this ever happened to anyone? Does vapage have a warranty on the vmod? I'm stuck now and have no idea what to do...

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I contacted vapage through email and shared my story, and they let me know that there is a 6 month warranty on the vmod. I'll be sending it in today to get a replacement (chassis only)

Props to the vapage team, i could not be more relieved!

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[Jackass69]

Hello everyone. Any news of the 18650 yet? Will it be available soon?

 

[AlmightyGod]

Hello everyone. Any news of the 18650 yet? Will it be available soon?

The last I heard, it was still set for Christmas.

 

[Jackass69]

Ok. Thank you AG. Then I can put an order without worrying the 18650 will be released right after.

 

[jazzguy]

Wish I could put in an order. Still no silos, at all. This is when it sucks to have to rely on only one vendor.

 

[tierrataz]

Any word on when they will be back in stock? What ohm did you need? I might be able to help with a couple.

 

[jazzguy]

I'm hoping any day now. I asked 2 weeks ago and they told me it would be a few weeks. I'm looking for the low resistance ones. I can get by if need be though, I still have a few 1.5 and 1.8 ohm hybrids (which I also love) and more than a few 2.5 and 2.8 ohm hybrids, although most of the juices I'm using lately don't like 6v it seems.... I'm leaving on a cruise in a week and a half and was hoping to stock up on silos just because they are lower maintenance when out and about. Worst case, I'll just restock some HV juice and use the SR stuff.

I do certainly appreciate your offer though taz, I always knew you were good people!!!

And since I brought it up - any of you running 6V? If so, what juices do you guys find works well? I dig the vapealicious GBC (which I just ran out of, need to get more) at that voltage but am always looking for yummy new things!

 

[AlmightyGod]

Hey Jazz...

I'll see if I have any LR Silos when I get home.

AG's Dream is wonderful at 6v!

 

[Fernand]

recommended liquid to go wit v-mod 2.5omhs...

im using dekang ry4 but really not much taste in it so need something to give me more flavour...

anyone has any idea how to prevent the 1.5ohms atty from burning my liquid, no matter how small pulls i take it still produces a burning taste.

@ahdex One issue is taste/vapor. At 2.5 ohms I don't think the Vapage attys deliver much, as the 2.0s barely do, hence the popularity of the 1.5s.

The other issue is burning. Partly it's technique, how and how often you squirsh, so make sure there is enough liquid coming through. But also check for loose coils that glow orange, by looking down the barrel.



That has been happening a bit recently, at different resistances, and Vapage just purchased some magnifying video gear for QA to weed out the bad atomizers. A wet atty, that's properly wrapped tight on the wick, should not fire with any glowing sections, unless you are deliberately doing a dry-burn. Where wire glows, the temp gets very high, and splashed/wicked juice decomposes, hence the horrid taste. I personally wouldn't dream of vaping that, some breakdown products are toxic. You can try pushing any glowing sections of coil down with a small tool, some people have succeeded, though it hasn't worked across the board for me. If you have defective attys, I would call Vapage and simply get them replaced. Some of us here love the Vapage atomizers and cartomizers, others hate them, and modify other brands to use on the Vmod.

 

[jazzguy]

Hey Jazz...

I'll see if I have any LR Silos when I get home.

AG's Dream is wonderful at 6v!

Hey guys! Man, it's been quiet in here! AG, good tip on the AG's dream. I hadn't tried it because I expected fruit flavor not to play nice with HV, but you are right - it's great!

Also, I just talked to Vapage CS, they say silos are expected to come in on Monday. Man, I hope so - coming down to the wire!

 

[AlmightyGod]

Hey guys! Man, it's been quiet in here! AG, good tip on the AG's dream. I hadn't tried it because I expected fruit flavor not to play nice with HV, but you are right - it's great!

Also, I just talked to Vapage CS, they say silos are expected to come in on Monday. Man, I hope so - coming down to the wire!

I think the fans of the Vmod have become weary of some of the criticism here lately. Many of us enjoy the Vapage product line, and hearing a few persistent members tell us how much they "hate" the hybrids & silos has taken some of the fun out of the thread. Everyone is entitled to their opinion though, so live and let live, I guess.

I'm glad you're liking the AG's Dream. I was surprised how awesome it is at 6v myself.

 

[Tat_skull]

Well unfortunately my VMOD has to be retired for a spell No Silo's=No VMOD!! Anyone know when they'll be back in stock???

 

[jazzguy]

Supposed to be Monday

 

[proax9]

I think the fans of the Vmod have become weary of some of the criticism here lately. Many of us enjoy the Vapage product line, and hearing a few persistent members tell us how much they "hate" the hybrids & silos has taken some of the fun out of the thread. Everyone is entitled to their opinion though, so live and let live, I guess.

I keep reaching for my other VV mod, but the VMOD somehow ends up in my hand...ALL DAY...
(not sure how that keeps happening!?)

 

[NubeeResearcher]

Hey Fernand, I'm a noob at vaping with the Vmod; just got it 2 days ago....I was wondering what other batteries will work with the Vmod and what the advantages are. I personally like vaping at a 3.7 - 4.7 volt range - the only reason I figured that out was with an eGo VV (after ordering the Vmod). So...just curious on how I can tinker with my new toy without having to do any heavy duty work lol. I'm already on the project of punching holes into cartos for tanks on my KGOs and eGos. Also, with the Vapage batteries it seems my heavy vaping habit drains the battery really quick. (About half as long as my 1100mAh KGO for instance). However, it may also be because I feel like I'm getting less vapor/TH/flavor with the Vmod than my fat batts, so I might be hitting the button more than the average Vmod user. As far as the squishing of the bottle goes I think I've been doing pretty well, I haven't gotten a spill yet and seem to be saturating the carto/atty sufficiently. I purchased two Vmods and they seem to perform alike, so I don't think it's a problem with the actual device.


TIA! And sorry if this has been asked before, but sheesh this thread is LONG!!!

 

[AlmightyGod]

Besides the 14500 battery from Vapage, you could try the AW IMR 14500 battery. The higher drain will give you a hotter hit for longer than the protected batteries.

The other option is using two of the 14250 (3 volt) batteries. They are available from Innovapor.

 

[Fernand]

Of course, AG. There are preferences. That's what I've always said. Some people love the Silos/Hybrids, others don't. But there are also good and bad sides to everything. The Vmod can be a very useful device. But objectively, the Vmods I got in the mail had a number of problems; they were unusable as-is: leaks, defective charger, inability to use the OFF position, cracking chassis, defective atomizers, bad cartos. It has taken me a great deal of trial and error to make the Vmod usable for me. On each issue I've taken the trouble to show exactly what's wrong and how it can be circumvented. I know how hard it is to create and manufacture such an ambitious design. I'm not "bashing" anyone. I don't live in a black and white world, in which you either burn in hell or can do no wrong. Where I come from, we're all imperfect, and looking for solutions. That's why I'm still here.

People who are new to the Vmod, especially those who are having trouble and asking what to do, are IMHO best served by truthful info and tips, so they CAN enjoy it. Don't you think it's better for the Vmod than bubbling on about how everything Vapage offers is perfect, so that the happy ones can join your choir, while those who KNOW they are having trouble are only left the option to slink away and dump it?

 

[Fernand]

@NubeeRes, AG is right, the high-drains will last a little longer and won't "sag" as much under load. Stacking two 3 volts you're going to be pretty "hot", so you may want to have higher resistance "burners". And the small batteries won't last any longer, that's for sure.

Honestly, I think the size 14500 is just a small battery, it's inescapable, I rotate them pretty often. But then again, the Vmod is a small and very handy device. We've all had to find a preferred compromise.

It's all about watts (that being power or heat), not volts. So 5 volts (under load) with a 3 ohm atty, is the same as 3.5 volts with a 1.5 ohmer. Watts are amps times volts. And amps in turn are volts divided by ohms. So for the 5 volt case it's
(5volt/3ohm)*5volt = (1.66 amps) * 5 volts = 8.1 watts
and for the 3.5 volt one it's (3.5/1.5)*3.5 = 8.1 watts. You say you like 4.5 volts, but with what resistance? A 2.6 ohm Echo-E on 4.5 volts uses (4.5/2.6)*4.5 = 7.8 watts. On a standard eGo battery it's only (3.4/2.6)*3.4 = 4.5 watts.

So there's no point in messin' around with two batteries, if you can adjust the atty resistance. You also have to consider the voltage sag of the battery under load and the efficiency of the atty. A high drain will sag less, so you may have 4 volts to work with instead of 3.5 under load. How exactly the coil is wound and the "grain" of the wick determine the vapor amount and texture. For me, the 2 ohm Boges on 3.5 volts deliver better more consistent vapor at 6 watts than say a 1.5 ohm Hybrid at 8 watts, but you may prefer the Hybrid, or a horizontal coil Kanger, or a Silo. Test away! It helps to have a little $10 meter, because the actual resistance on burners varies in any batch. Big difference between a 2.2 and a 2.6 ohm device, both labeled "2.5 ohms".

Personally I can't find a good balance with the factory attys. The best atty results I've had so far has been a Joye atty around 2.2 ohms (it was in a batch with 2.4 and 2.6 ohmers). If you pull the barrel up like 1/16", juice feeds through the fluted mating area, the less viscous the liquid the better. Those attys buffer a fair bit of juice, so you're not running dry as fast, and I find the vapor better with less power drain. Maybe try one. There are so many options to try!

All in all that's why I've settled on Dremel-slitting vertical coil cartos like Boge 2s, because I get the best vapor for the least drain, don't have to hold the switch down long. They're exquisite for about 5 days, then get finicky, but at a bit over a dollar a piece, it's all good. I still swap batteries pretty often. It's almost baffling how long an eGo 1000 mAh (internally a little 13700) battery vapes. But I love the Vmod setup's vape and practicality, so it's not a big deal.

Once you find your best compromise on resistance vs. voltage, and then how well you like the feeding and the generated vapor, you'll just carry a couple batteries anyway ;-)

... the VMOD somehow ends up in my hand...ALL DAY...
(not sure how that keeps happening!?)

Same here. I think in part it's the tactile thing, the shape is so nice, and the feed is so clever ...