Them TV Doublers......Whadda ya think?

[rojo]

...In San Diego we have a real E-Cig store here (Vapure), but their Juices are terrible. I feel sorry for all those people who don't buy their stuff from the internet, and don't know how great a juice can taste. I asked them if they had a caramel popcorn juice, and they said yes they have Caramel Kettle Corn. Then I asked if it tasted like this, and gave her a puff off of my e-cig. She said Wow, that tastes great. Then she shook her head and mouthed ""NO", ours isn't".

Agreed. Here in East TN there are no shops dedicated to vaping except for a Smoking Everywhere kiosk in the Mall selling gas station PV's, and the one or two tobacco shops who carry that same sorry type of PV as a novelty only keep tobacco flavored juice. Nobody carries any of the sweet juices I like. I've made the mistake of letting myself run out of juice before. I probably called 10 different smoke shops before giving up and asking my only local vaping friend for help. Thank God he had some TastyVapor Waffle juice he was willing to share. Om nom nom.

If I ever opened a vaping shop, I would totally stock up on juice from Tasty Vapor. They don't do wholesale according to their FAQ, but they do offer a 15% discount on $200+ orders. You know, if someone can go to Menchie's and pay $10 for a bowl of ice cream when they could buy a half gallon at the grocery store for $3, I'm sure I could easily resell TastyVapor juice. I'd have events, sort of like a wine tasting or a food tasting event, but with TV juice.

Ah, but it's all a pipe dream for me. I've got a state job, building up state retirement, and I hate retail. I'll have to leave it to someone else I guess.

 

[Karla Lyle]

OK Update. I got my order ysterday and I know it's supposed to steep before you vape it but that's pretty much what all the juice vendors say and I can usually tell on day 1 whether or not the juice is good. Yes it does get better with time but I can still tell if it's gonna be good and I just have to say....I LOVE IT!! Yay! It's a rare occasion I get a juice order from a new company and like every juice I ordered. Usually, I'm lucky if I like just one. LOL Thanks guys. Glad you turned me on to this. I just wish I knew which mixer made it, so I can ask for them again next time. Can I ask for you personally TVchris so I know it'll be done right? LOL I'm afraid next time I place an order they won't use as much flavoring. It seems to happen a lot at other vendors. It is just perfect now but if it were any weaker I might say it was too weak. I'm also afraid to order the doublers for the same reason. Can I ask for the doublers to be as strong in flavor as possible? Most other vendors I order from I order double flavor or 200% when the offer it. I am extremely happy with this though. I can only imagine how much better it's going to be in a week or so. That is, if it lasts that long. I'm actually vaping the butter cream cupcake now, as I'm typing. Yummy! I was sad to see the sale ended but happy I gave Tasty Vapor a chance. Thanks TVChris for your help as well as the great customer service. I couldn't be happier.

 

[TVChris]

We ARE currently finishing up the process development on our wholesale program. We WILL BE selling 16oz and 32oz bottles of nicotine liquids........soon!

Karla, I'm happy that you are happy! Check the Monday morning FOTW (Flavor of the Week) posting, eventually you'll see the ones you want to try come up.

 

[upscope]

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Hi everybody, thanks for all the comments, keep em coming!
There are things I can talk about and things I can't talk about. I can't give away any trade secrets (recipes, ratios, etc). But let me say this, you all know when we ship our bottles they are filled to the top of the wall of the bottle. In the attached picture the 1oz bottle contains 1.01+ ounces (30ml), a 2oz contains 2.03 ounces (60ml), a 4oz contains almost 4.06 ounces (120ml). NOTE*** They are all considerably less full in this picture compared to what you actually receive from us. That 4oz bottle leaves our place with about 4 1/2 ounces of liquid. Nobody seems to dispute this. The question repeatedly raised is do we add sufficient quantities of flavorings. A 1oz bottle has plenty of flavoring for that bottle when it is filled to the rim. The 4oz doubler is about 4 1/2 oz of liquid and it contains five times the flavoring of a one ounce bottle. So they are not weaker. They are slightly stronger than a one ounce bottle. If you want to dilute it with 100mg nic of unknown origin or age........well that's not what it was designed for. Geoff wanted to give customers a way to vape their favorite TV flavors as economically as possible. If you vape at 12mg/ml, and you buy 1oz 48mg/ml = $15.30, 4 oz doubler = $15.75, that will give you 4 one oz portions of 12mg at about $7.75 per ounce and still have an ounce and a half of doubler left over.
Thanks, TVChris

Ok, ill bite. I actually would like to dispute this. I have had conversations several x's pertaining to this matter. I have checked & tested over & over & over again & have a question. The 1oz/30ml bottles that Tasty Vapor promotes (& essentially EVERY OTHER top vendor as well) are not actually 30ml.......they are 32 to 32.5ml

And before anybody says it's because of the necessary "breathing" room, I am taking this into account. I have taken several 1oz/30ml bottles of TV eliquid & measured them right out of the mailbox & each & everytime they measure 32/32.5ml?? I have taken empty TV 1oz/30ml bottles & filled them (leaving the exact amount of breathing space that TV uses) w/ various other liquids (water, milk, soda) & each & everytime they also measure 32/32.5ml?? If you were to fill the TV 1oz/30ml bottles to the very brim they would actually measure 36ml's.
The same can be said w/ the 15ml (empty) bottles that TV offers. They actually measure out to 17ml if filled & left w/ necessary breathing space & 19 ml if filled to the brim.

So the magic question that nobody has been able to logically answer is quite simple.....Is it standard practice within the industry, and TV specifically, to simply call the bottles 30ml when they are in fact 32/32.5ml?? Does TV, for some unexplained reason give you 2/2.5ml xtra for free because they are nice?? Or am I a complete idiot & simply missing something here??

 

[TVChris]

Ok, ill bite. I actually would like to dispute this. I have had conversations several x's pertaining to this matter. I have checked & tested over & over & over again & have a question. The 1oz/30ml bottles that Tasty Vapor promotes (& essentially EVERY OTHER top vendor as well) are not actually 30ml.......they are 32 to 32.5ml

And before anybody says it's because of the necessary "breathing" room, I am taking this into account. I have taken several 1oz/30ml bottles of TV eliquid & measured them right out of the mailbox & each & everytime they measure 32/32.5ml?? I have taken empty TV 1oz/30ml bottles & filled them (leaving the exact amount of breathing space that TV uses) w/ various other liquids (water, milk, soda) & each & everytime they also measure 32/32.5ml?? If you were to fill the TV 1oz/30ml bottles to the very brim they would actually measure 36ml's.
The same can be said w/ the 15ml (empty) bottles that TV offers. They actually measure out to 17ml if filled & left w/ necessary breathing space & 19 ml if filled to the brim.

So the magic question that nobody has been able to logically answer is quite simple.....Is it standard practice within the industry, and TV specifically, to simply call the bottles 30ml when they are in fact 32/32.5ml?? Does TV, for some unexplained reason give you 2/2.5ml xtra for free because they are nice?? Or am I a complete idiot & simply missing something here??

We are nice. It is not accidental. You, my friend, have done your homework. I can not tell you how many times we have received emailed pictures of bottles a red hair short of top, with people complaining that they were shorted. It is not industry standard, it is TV standard.
TVChris

 

[upscope]

We are nice. It is not accidental. You, my friend, have done your homework. I can not tell you how many times we have received emailed pictures of bottles a red hair short of top, with people complaining that they were shorted. It is not industry standard, it is TV standard.
TVChris

Well, if anybody reads this & ever feels as if they are being cheated because the bottle doesn't appear to be filled to their liking I can assure you you are not being cheated. I made a batch of 60ml (DIY) & was positive my measurements were precise & then filled two empty 1oz/30ml TV bottles right to the point where TV consistently fills them & sure enough I ran out of juice before both bottles were filled.

Conclusion......TV actually gives you slightly more than 30ml each time eventhough the bottle appears to have plenty of room left for juice. Eventhough this is actually a good thing for the consumer it is likely to be construed as bad because the consumer is unlikely to actually measure it themselves & their natural conventional thinking would be that they are getting shorted.

 

[TheBlueAdept]

Just received my first order, had no issues at all with how full the bottles are. Like Karla above I expected to have to steep since it was freshly made yesterday, but not at all, it's quite good immediately! Regarding the doublers, I think they are great, and I appreciate the value. I just have to be careful now not to order too much (having read about the shorter shelf life), but that's ok since you guys are really close to where I live.

Thanks again, TV

 

[trademark]

TVChris, when will the wholesale program roll out? Excited about this.

 

[TVChris]

TVChris, when will the wholesale program roll out? Excited about this.

The process development is done. It's gonna be about another month before the wholesale website is up and running. If you are interested call Geoff (888)389-3229 for pricing and for now all orders will have to go through him, over the phone.
Thanks, TVChris

 

[Carolina Vapoor]

I generally get a 4 oz doubler + two 48mg 1oz bottles. With the 48mg I get 10% vg (the highest allowed), then in the ordering information I'll request that the doubler be mixed @ 70% vg. It's a little complicated, but in the end I have 6 oz of 16mg 50/50 pg/vg with no leftover doubler.

Not really that complicated to figure unless I am missing something. Of course by my calculation you are actually ending up with a 60/40 pg/vg mix.

Doubler = 30/70
Juice = 90/10

Doubler + Juice =120/80 and then divide that by 2
=60/40 pg/vg

Would this not be the right way to figure it up? If I am wrong please let me know as I am planning on making my first purchase from TV soon and I want to make sure I end up with the pg/vg ratio that I like best

 

[TVChris]

Not really that complicated to figure unless I am missing something. Of course by my calculation you are actually ending up with a 60/40 pg/vg mix.

Doubler = 30/70
Juice = 90/10

Doubler + Juice =120/80 and then divide that by 2
=60/40 pg/vg

Would this not be the right way to figure it up? If I am wrong please let me know as I am planning on making my first purchase from TV soon and I want to make sure I end up with the pg/vg ratio that I like best

No......what you're not taking into account is that there are 4oz of 30/70 and 2oz of 90/10, The easiest way to figure is 1) figure only the VG. 2) figure what it will be in one ounce. Jusr VG: each ounce will be 2/3 ounce of 70% (140/3 = 46.7%)....1/3 ounce oz of 10% (10/3 = 3.3%) 3.3+46.7=50%. By all means, call me at the shop (888)389-3229 or use the online help on our website if you want to double check before you order. Sometimes we can do some "creative mixing" to accommodate what you are trying to achieve, but we do have mixing restrictions on some flavors (some 4oz doublers are 40% flavor and other ingredients). Some, if we go past 30%VG they won't mix.
TVChris

 

[mike n]

PLEASE help me understand "doublers" from Tasty Vapor. I want to vape with ZERO NIC so please don't talk NIC. My question is, if I buy a doubler do I still need to buy a flavor to mix it or is the doubler strong enough to vape alone? I don't want to waste my time vaping colored water.

 

[zer0ith]

PLEASE help me understand "doublers" from Tasty Vapor. I want to vape with ZERO NIC so please don't talk NIC. My question is, if I buy a doubler do I still need to buy a flavor to mix it or is the doubler strong enough to vape alone? I don't want to waste my time vaping colored water.

The doubler is 0-nic juice.

All the flavour (if not just slightly more I think) and none of the nic

 

[TVChris]

PLEASE help me understand "doublers" from Tasty Vapor. I want to vape with ZERO NIC so please don't talk NIC. My question is, if I buy a doubler do I still need to buy a flavor to mix it or is the doubler strong enough to vape alone? I don't want to waste my time vaping colored water.

Doublers are actually slightly stronger (in flavor) than the nicotine liquids. If you're just making the change to non-nic, I recommend you keep the VG to a minimum (no more than 10-20%) because you loose some throat hit without nic.
TVChris