There are 100 different brands, are they all knockoffs of 1?

[vin cecil]

Looking online, and at all the ads that appear here on ecf. There are like 100 brands of vapes/mods/cig - alikes whatever.

My question is, are they all knock offs of the original ego?
Is the ego the original?
I have seen so many brands and they all look almost exactly alike.

Are these knockoffs any good?

Just curious

 

[bacc.vap]

I'm not sure if I'm understanding your quesion right, but I'll answer anyway. The original ecigs were the cigarette look a likes, so no, everything is not a copy of the ego, which came out much later. There are a bunch of ego copies also, some just as good and some not so much. The best you can do is research what you're thinking of buying before doing so.

 

[Thrasher]

as for EGO type batteries? yes they are all copies, but in many cases they work just as well.

the original EGO battery was Invented by Ovale and manufactured by joyetech in a cross license agreement, so either of those brands would be originals. The ego battery was named for the outside EGO cone threads.

as for everything else. hmm lots of stories there.... the original mods were flashlight tubes .
Kanger invented the 808d cigalike batteries (V2 Blu etc)
and joyetech brought the 510 cigalike to market

People got tired of these little batteries and started making homemade versions with replacable batteries and the term mod was invented and stuck, most mods should actually be called advanced personal vaporizers.

one of the first production VV mods was the buzzpro and lavatube
one of the first production mechanicals was the infamous silver bullet.

about 2 years ago the ego became the defacto standard. as they offered 2 different connections and that meant you could use a ton of devices.
about a year and a 1/2 the ego VV or twist hit the market and really changed everything.

after many attempts with other things it wasnt until the twist came out that I was finally able to enjoy vaping and completely quit smoking.

 

[Dakota Jim]

Why yes, yes they are all knockoffs - Chine does not recognize patent laws - if they can build it they will

Ego is kind of like calling any cola a coke or pepsi

Ego is also used to name a particular kind of threading on the battery or device

Joyetech is the agreed upon "original" / best quality ego style battery but they all work about the same an will last for approx. 250 to 300 charge cycles if cared for properly (keep clean, especially the connection end - excessive e-liquid/condensation can seep in and kill the battery - wipe it out every time before you connect to charger - yes, you got rid of ashtrays but now you need to keep paper towels handy and close by)

 

[vin cecil]

Thanks for the info

 

[bacc.vap]

the original EGO battery was Invented by Ovale and manufactured by joyetech in a cross license agreement, so either of those brands would be originals. The ego battery was named for the outside EGO cone threads.

Was'nt it Janty who had Joyetech manufacture their design?

 

[Thrasher]

Was'nt it Janty who had Joyetech manufacture their design?

"In October 2009, Janty® introduced the Janty® eGo, a long lasting battery powered e-smoking electronic cigarette device that comes in an avant garde, ergonomic design that blowed both consumers and critics minds"

you are correct. keeping track of who does what or when and how jumbles together. there is so much cross manufacturing/designing with these guys details get lost. especially since i quit messing with ego type stuff a long time ago.

Ovale released the EGO -T system.
"We released the eGo-T electronic cigarette to improve the problem of short battery life and frequent refills"

good catch.

 

[bacc.vap]

"In October 2009, Janty® introduced the Janty® eGo, a long lasting battery powered e-smoking electronic cigarette device that comes in an avant garde, ergonomic design that blowed both consumers and critics minds"

you are correct. keeping track of who does what or when and how jumbles together. there is so much cross manufacturing/designing with these guys details get lost. especially since i quit messing with ego type stuff a long time ago.

Ovale released the EGO -T system.
"We released the eGo-T electronic cigarette to improve the problem of short battery life and frequent refills"

good catch.

Yes, they stole from both Janty and Ovale, and probably others, they are an equal oportunity stealer.

 

[Margate69]

For technology's sake, yes. Every single e-cig is a copy of another one.

Design, build quality and material quality is the deciding factor between knock-offs and originals. Sometimes they work just as good, others not so much.

I had an E-go when my friend bought an Apollo. His felt cheap, light, low battery life, but looked just like mine.

He broke 2 before upgrading to an e-go.

 

[Thrasher]

Yes, they stole from both Janty and Ovale, and probably others, they are an equal oportunity stealer.

no they didnt steal - they have verifiable contracts to produce this stuff. the evic was originally from Ovale as well, after a set amount of time Joye was allowed to produce their own branded version after building them for Ovale.

if you dig hard enough you can find the statements about how joyetech has the factories and the other people have the patents and they both benefit from this arrangement, with joy doing all the labor and packaging so the others dont have to actually create a production facility.

 

[devauto]

For technology's sake, yes. Every single e-cig is a copy of another one.

I'm not quite sure I agree with you on this point. I look at certain devices like the eVic and the ZMax and I don't think I would put them in the same category as an ego. Not from a design perspective, nor a features perspective. I think there are still some things that can be called "originals" although they may be derivative works meant to "fix or improve" a competitors shortfalls.

Just my $0.02 on the topic.

 

[bacc.vap]

no they didnt steal - they have verifiable contracts to produce this stuff. the evic was originally from Ovale as well, after a set amount of time Joye was allowed to produce their own branded version after building them for Ovale.

if you dig hard enough you can find the statements about how joyetech has the factories and the other people have the patents and they both benefit from this arrangement, with joy doing all the labor and packaging so the others dont have to actually create a production facility.

I understood they had agreements to manufacture, but I did'nt know they had agreements for Joyetech to market the devices on there own. The interview I saw with Ludo, of Janty, does'nt say one way or the other about agreements, but it did'nt sound like, at least to me, that Joyetechs marketing of ego clones was agreed to by janty.

 

[edyle]

Why yes, yes they are all knockoffs - Chine does not recognize patent laws - if they can build it they will

Ego is kind of like calling any cola a coke or pepsi

Ego is also used to name a particular kind of threading on the battery or device

Joyetech is the agreed upon "original" / best quality ego style battery but they all work about the same an will last for approx. 250 to 300 charge cycles if cared for properly (keep clean, especially the connection end - excessive e-liquid/condensation can seep in and kill the battery - wipe it out every time before you connect to charger - yes, you got rid of ashtrays but now you need to keep paper towels handy and close by)

Well it's off topic, but I take exception to the statement that "Chine does not recognize patent laws".

I imagine that Chine recognizes Chine's patent laws!
Just as anybody else recognises the patent laws of their own lands.