There's something about some tobacco flavors...

[hmorphone]

... that I just don't like! But I'm having trouble with figuring out what it is. I figure it's important as if I can figure out what it is then I know what tobacco flavors to try in the future, and which ones I can probably avoid. It's hard to decide what it is with all the variables. I just don't know which part of the flavor I don't like. I figure you guys might be able to help me put my finger on it if I tell you my reaction to some popular tobacco flavors... G I Joe WTA - great, but maybe not an ADV. If I could change anything about it, I would make it a little mellower and go with more of an Marlboro flavor than a Winston. But still a juice I like a lot. DK Tab WTA - Dislike the flavor quite a bit. I do however enjoy the juices's strength and smoothness. It's just that one predominant aspect of the flavor that I can't put my finger on that I don't like. Dark Honey Tobacco WTA - great flavor, almost an ADV. Love both the honey and the tobacco. Of course it's a little hard to say what I like about the tobacco flavor because it's in a 50/50 partnership with the honey. Great flavor, would just like to find a juice that's prominently tobacco that I like. Tobacco Road WTA - ARRGGGHH, really dislike something about this flavor. Just can't tell you what it is. I have to retry both the DK Tab and the Tobacco Road, though from my understanding steeping isn't real important with Aroma juices... Beatle Juice WTA - Jurys still out, but I'm finding some aspects of the flavor I like and some I don't. I'm kind of ambiguous about it at this point. It's certainly not what I expected though. MBV 555 - I really like this one, but I don't know if they should call it a 555 (or even a tobacco flavor.) The sweetness overpowers the tobacco completely at first, then after steeping it's still overshadows the tobacco. Can't really tell you much about the tobacco flavor here, just that it's there. TVS Frisco - There's once again an aspect of the tobacco I don't like, nuttiness maybe?, but still an ok vape. It's a little like G I Joe in that it sucks me back for one more try... TVS Tampa - Not really anything I dislike here, but not really anything I think is super great either. The flavor seems just a hair artificial to me. Never had that with my Aroma juices. While I would've tried them eventually anyway, I mainly ordered the DK Tab and the Tobacco Road due to other flavors such as the 555 and so forth being out of stock at the time. The Beatle Juice was one I wanted to try from the first, so having such an ambiguous reaction is kinda funny. What is it that you guys think is throwing me off? D

 

[homeprogreen]

Try Aromas Turkish Blend. Has decent throat hit but is smoother then most

 

[snork]

Maybe it would be easier if you put pen to virtual paper what you're looking for and work your way backwards. What's most important to you? For example I like juice that feels a certain way, other factors, including taste, are secondary.

Do you think you may have preconceived notions? Could it be possible that what you seek doesn't exist? I know that sounds stupidly metaphysical but I think an acceptance of the fundamental differences between vaping and smoking is necessary (but may be difficult) for success and satisfaction. It doesn't mean you have to "settle" for something just because, but maybe approach it from a mindset that celebrates the differences.

I've been in a weird mood lately.

 

[hmorphone]

Turkish Blend was one I considered, but I believe it was out at the time of my order. I'll bump it on my list a little though. Lord knows homeprogreen doesn't need a new 555 fan around!
snork, you're probably right. If I wrote it out it certainly might help. I know part of what you're getting at though. I'm not completely over the fact that there is no equivalent to a burning analog taste, but I'm growing to accept it. That said, sometimes right now I feel more satisfied when I smoke a tobacco flavor, (even a non-burning one!) To me tobacco flavors are like beer. They're both acquired tastes that, once acquired, don't leave you easily. I can satify my urge with a tobacco taste with DHT or GI Joe, but with the wide range of choices in tobacco flavors I feel that there has to be some I'll like even more. And I KNOW there'll be some I like much less. It just seems like there's something, maybe nuttiness, maybe a certain type tobacco, that turns me off. And if I can figure out what that element is - I'll be better off and further along!

 

[GaryInTexas]

I will suggest something that I tried. I mixed 50/50 some G I Joe 12mg and Beatle Juice 24mg to make a 18mg juice. It is actually very smooth and tasty to me.

 

[hmorphone]

Hadn't thought of that, but it might be worthwhile! I'll give it a try as soon as I have a chance.

 

[homeprogreen]

My wife likes a mix of Sahara and Tobacco Road. I mix 12 mg & 24 mg of each to get 18mg then I add 5 ml of Tobacco Road to 25 ml of Sahara to get it just right for her PITA but that's what she likes. What's funny is if you give her either of the flavors by the selfs she really doesn't care for them. To her Sahara really doesn't have a flavor by itself and Tobacco Road is to much flavor by itself.

 

[flowerpots]

Maybe you should try a tobacco with an added flavor in it, where the tobacco flavor is not dominant. There are varieties from many vendors with apple, peach, cherry, vanilla, caramel, cranberry, pear, etc.

For a mellow juice, I like Smooth Criminal by Ahlusion.

It may help if you can decipher whether you prefer pipe, cigar, or cigalike tobaccos also.

 

[snork]

See? That's what I'm trying to pin down. Why is it so difficult for people to find what they like to vape? Is it the sheer number of options that lead people into an inescapable maze? Is it peer pressure with personalities influencing mass migration from vendor to vendor, flavor to flavor? Is vaping inherently less satisfying or just infinitely more fun?
I wish we could find the magic bullet. I'm not satisfied with the standard "Taste is subjective, you're on your own, kiddo".

 

[hmorphone]

Don't have any Sahara homeprogreen, or I might try that.

Maybe you should try a tobacco with an added flavor in it, where the tobacco flavor is not dominant. There are varieties from many vendors with apple, peach, cherry, vanilla, caramel, cranberry, pear, etc.

For a mellow juice, I like Smooth Criminal by Ahlusion.

It may help if you can decipher whether you prefer pipe, cigar, or cigalike tobaccos also.

I do have some mixed flavors, as I said above, and I do tend to like those. I might have to try the Smooth Criminal. The type of tobacco I prefer is something I hoped you guys might be able to help me decipher (based on preferences so far.)

 

[snork]

Don't have any Sahara homeprogreen, or I might try that.



I do have some mixed flavors, as I said above, and I do tend to like those. I might have to try the Smooth Criminal. The type of tobacco I prefer is something I hoped you guys might be able to help me decipher (based on preferences so far.)

I wish I could help a bit more. I actually pretty much can't stand any other juice than Aroma's so this probably isn't the forum to talk about them. Specific to Aroma, I think we've hashed out the tobacco pecking order pretty well in various threads so any of us who hang out here will certainly have an idea for recommendations based on your preferences. And don't forget, if it's WTA you're after then you're in the best place. Or only place depending on the minute hand. Talk to the man who brought it to us! Talk to the people who've enjoyed it for a long time. *Nobody* knows more about it.

 

[flowerpots]

Don't have any Sahara homeprogreen, or I might try that.



I do have some mixed flavors, as I said above, and I do tend to like those. I might have to try the Smooth Criminal. The type of tobacco I prefer is something I hoped you guys might be able to help me decipher (based on preferences so far.)

I'm no pro tobacconeer, so I'm not of much help there, but have you read the threads on tobaccos/NETs? I've been reading them for the past week and feel well-guided in making the most recent tobacco juice purchases. I'm still trying to find my tobacco profile as well.

The Plume Room has M-Type juice that is good, if you want a Marlboro-type flavor. I vape that every day. I have also seen M-Type tobacco from other vendors.

Also, from what I understand, most tobaccos (with the exception of lab-created juices) need steeping and change from increments to drastically over time. So, you may want to revisit juices over a period of time to see if the flavor develops into something more agreeable to your palate.

EDIT ~

Errr ummm, I just realized this thread is in a particular vendor's forum. I apologize for being rude.

 

[hmorphone]

Look like it's off to read more threads for me...

 

[hittman]

It seems to me that there are a ton of flavors out there called tobacco flavors that taste nothing like tobacco. I think aroma has done a pretty good job with some of theirs.

It seems like Tobacco Road is either a love or hate thing. I loved it when I first tried it and still like it but honestly don't know that I personally would call it a tobacco flavor. I'm not sure what I would call it but know I like it. When I think of tobacco in the aroma line, Beatle juice, G. I. Joe, Sahara, and a couple others come to mind.

 

[hmorphone]

My apologies to the fine folks at Aroma for mentioning other vendors. When I started this thread I was concentrating on giving my reaction to every tobacco flavor that I'd ever tried. I didn't stop to realize it might be rude or inappropriate to do that. Even though it seems I'm in the "hate Tobacco Road" camp, I do agree Aroma has done some really good work with tobacco flavors. I'm a little surprised no one from Aroma has offered any input. Well, off to research some more (while I vape some more Beatle Juice.)