thick 1Amp micro usb 5-6 foot cable, ok?

[vapesmooth123]

waa, why does everything turn into a forum post and a big project for me.

I have a realoux DNA200. It takes a charge up to 1Amp. I have a wall adapter for my cell phone which is only 750mAh (.75A) output. I have another wall adapter 1000mAh output. Both are UL logo branded. I only use UL branded wall adapters (for safety reasons, and I do trust UL more than CE branded).

The 3' cord that comes with the reloux is great, nice and thick and it gives up to 1A charging and it pops into the micro USB port nice and snugly but it's not long enough for me to passthrough vape. I need 5-6 feet.

I have a long cheap green ribbon cable I got from ebay from china for like 99 cents but it doesn't charge the DNA200 more than like .5 Amp (the mod's screen shows charging current). I tried all combinations with the wires and wall adapters I mentioned above but the only way I can get 1A current is with the short cord included with the realoux DNA200.


So do I just buy any 1Amp micro usb cable from ebay? I shocked the long green ribbon one I got from ebay for 99 cents doesn't even give 1A. This just means they skimped on the copper/metal internals hence why it can't carry even 1 Amp.

If I but a cord on ebay claiming to be 1A on but my DNA200 screen doesn't show it charging that high, it's not as described? (and therefore free). I don't want free, I just want a thick 1A, but for some reason I can't find that.

I know the DNA200 will only take upwards of .99A when the batteries are low. The more charged they get, the lower the current it takes form the charger and eventualyl only shows it taking about .1A, but that's not why I'm only getting only about .5A max from the cheap ebay 99 green ribbon wire I already had.


This cord linked isn't thick but I might have to get unless it's highly not recommended for some reason. I don't think what I'm looking for should cost more than just a few dollars shipped form China.
In drop down as "Other micro usb android phone" 6 feet (because all the phones in the drop down are just sort of click bait and confusion but possibly some of the choices would lead to getting only a .5A cord).
1A Micro 2.0 USB Charger Charging Sync Data Cable For Android Phone 1M/2M/3M


because strangely, if I search ebay for the following with prices starting from lowest, I find almost nothing for just a few dollars or without added things I don't need.
1A micro usb -car -board -module -wall
1Amp micro usb -car -board -module -wall
1A micro usb -car -board -module -wall
1 Amp micro usb -car -board -module -wall

1A micro usb -car -board -module -wall | eBay


Actually, forget most of what I wrote above because 1A isn't popular and I should have searched for 2A and this will be perfectly safe because the DNA200 board safety will cap the current at 1amp, right? Or is it safer to get a 1A?
I should just get this 2Amp "thick" one?
1/2/3M Over 2A Micro USB Data Sync Fast Thick Charger Charging Cable For Phones


thick 2A micro usb -car -board -module -wall -flat -braided -ribbon -retractable -led | eBay

 

[bigdancehawk]

waa, why does everything turn into a forum post and a big project for me.

I have a realoux DNA200. It takes a charge up to 1Amp. I have a wall adapter for my cell phone which is only 750mAh (.75A) output. I have another wall adapter 1000mAh output. Both are UL logo branded. I only use UL branded wall adapters (for safety reasons, and I do trust UL more than CE branded).

The 3' cord that comes with the reloux is great, nice and thick and it gives up to 1A charging and it pops into the micro USB port nice and snugly but it's not long enough for me to passthrough vape. I need 5-6 feet.

I have a long cheap green ribbon cable I got from ebay from china for like 99 cents but it doesn't charge the DNA200 more than like .5 Amp (the mod's screen shows charging current). I tried all combinations with the wires and wall adapters I mentioned above but the only way I can get 1A current is with the short cord included with the realoux DNA200.


So do I just buy any 1Amp micro usb cable from ebay? I shocked the long green ribbon one I got from ebay for 99 cents doesn't even give 1A. This just means they skimped on the copper/metal internals hence why it can't carry even 1 Amp.

If I but a cord on ebay claiming to be 1A on but my DNA200 screen doesn't show it charging that high, it's not as described? (and therefore free). I don't want free, I just want a thick 1A, but for some reason I can't find that.

I know the DNA200 will only take upwards of .99A when the batteries are low. The more charged they get, the lower the current it takes form the charger and eventualyl only shows it taking about .1A, but that's not why I'm only getting only about .5A max from the cheap ebay 99 green ribbon wire I already had.


This cord linked isn't thick but I might have to get unless it's highly not recommended for some reason. I don't think what I'm looking for should cost more than just a few dollars shipped form China.
In drop down as "Other micro usb android phone" 6 feet (because all the phones in the drop down are just sort of click bait and confusion but possibly some of the choices would lead to getting only a .5A cord).
1A Micro 2.0 USB Charger Charging Sync Data Cable For Android Phone 1M/2M/3M


because strangely, if I search ebay for the following with prices starting from lowest, I find almost nothing for just a few dollars or without added things I don't need.
1A micro usb -car -board -module -wall
1Amp micro usb -car -board -module -wall
1A micro usb -car -board -module -wall
1 Amp micro usb -car -board -module -wall

1A micro usb -car -board -module -wall | eBay


Actually, forget most of what I wrote above because 1A isn't popular and I should have searched for 2A and this will be perfectly safe because the DNA200 board safety will cap the current at 1amp, right? Or is it safer to get a 1A?
I should just get this 2Amp "thick" one?
1/2/3M Over 2A Micro USB Data Sync Fast Thick Charger Charging Cable For Phones


thick 2A micro usb -car -board -module -wall -flat -braided -ribbon -retractable -led | eBay

It might be simpler, more convenient and perhaps safer to get a charger and additional batteries.

 

[vapesmooth123]

rapid charge-discharge drastically shortens the life of you batteries

shortens it in terms of how many months/cycles they last or in terms of how long they last between charges? Either way I'm going to be stubborn and not deal with an extermal charger. Just getting the batts out of the realoux is a PITA and is known to rip the wraps. I'd rather spend the $20 sooner for a new set of batts if their months/cycles are shortened by passthrough vaping.

All that aside, I could just use the first item at the top from my last link Even though it's 2A and the rolo only takes 1A current?
The rolo would cap a 2A cable at 1A. It would be safer to use a 1A even though the rolo has protection but the protection could fail but it shouldn't, similarly to all the other protections that come with charging and using batts and sub ohming etc. But one less protection needed is in theory safer?

 

[bwh79]

The RX200, at least, is notoriously bad at keeping the batteries balanced while charging. I'm not sure if the DNA version has that same problem but you're going to need an external charger someday eventually, anyway, so why not sooner rather than later?

 

[Eskie]

The RX200, at least, is notoriously bad at keeping the batteries balanced while charging. I'm not sure if the DNA version has that same problem but you're going to need an external charger someday eventually, anyway, so why not sooner rather than later?

DNA 200 boards handle balanced charging quite well. But I don't think it will allow "passthrough" charging, which it's actually not. "Passthrough" vaping still draws off the battery when you press the fire button and then "return" to charging afterwards. If using a device that does not handle balanced charging well, an external charger is the way to go. If you must vape while those batteries charge, have a second set to swap with. If you're using a Lipo that cannot be swapped, have a charged backup device. Passthrough is doing your battery no favor.

 

[bigdancehawk]

shortens it in terms of how many months/cycles they last or in terms of how long they last between charges? Either way I'm going to be stubborn and not deal with an extermal charger. Just getting the batts out of the realoux is a PITA and is known to rip the wraps. I'd rather spend the $20 sooner for a new set of batts if their months/cycles are shortened by passthrough vaping.

All that aside, I could just use the first item at the top from my last link Even though it's 2A and the rolo only takes 1A current?
The rolo would cap a 2A cable at 1A. It would be safer to use a 1A even though the rolo has protection but the protection could fail but it shouldn't, similarly to all the other protections that come with charging and using batts and sub ohming etc. But one less protection needed is in theory safer?

"Shortens"--i.e., reduces the number of times you can charge the batteries before they fail.
Of course, you can be as stubborn as you like. Maybe I'm overly cautious, but I'm just a bit averse to putting 60 amps of charging batteries within an inch of my face. But it would certainly be a bummer if you can't get the batteries out of your mod without tearing the wraps.

 

[SteveS45]

Most MOD's will not charge while the fire button is pressed so like @Eskie stated above it is not pass through. And like @bigdancehawk said I would not want to put 60 Amps of freshly charged batteries so close to my face. But when all I had was an iStick TC40W I did charge and vape and that little MOD is still kicking without any issues.

You can NEVER BE TOO SAFE but you can be overly cautious.

 

[vapesmooth123]

well since the DAN200 board does charge safely via USB, I bought the 2A cord and assume the DNA200 has prection to only take 1A of that 2A cord because the DNA200 is capped @ 1A charging. But like I said, it's just one more protection to rely on vs using a 1A cord instead of a 2A cord. One more protection to reply on as in addition to the basic wattage regulation most modern mods now have to allow sub ohm vaping vs mechanical mods a few years ago you could explode them if you don't know what you're doing. And the draw protection on the batteries themselves, etc etc, there's a lot of protections and using a 2A cord if the mod only accepts 1A of charge is another thing you're replying on the chip to protect. This is all correct I assume. None the less, I feel perfectly safe with the DNA200 and passthrough vaping it as well. I have been using it about a month. Soon I will remove the batteries and test them on a $400 analog multimeter and cheaper digital one after a full charge, during mid battery level, and when almost fully depleted just to verify that the DNA board hasn't created a large enough discrepancy or any discrepancy at all in the voltages of the 3 batteries. If so, I'll rotate since the first battery is said to take most of the usage but again, I have read the DNA200 board is as good if not better than a dedicated external charger like the nitecore.

If anyone interested in USB charging DNA200 mods like the Rolo (not the RX chip version), then search my past posts I made a big to do about it and asked on evolve forum etc and all signs point to not an issue. I do have the RX200 rolo as back up and hopefully never even need it. I would not charge the RX USB though.

 

[NealBJr]

I can only add to what other's have already said... vaping via a passthrough is not really advisable on a mod that charges the battery. There are safety issues with the battery balancing, power spikes, and so much more that can go wrong. Keep in mind, even if it's the best designed electronics circuitry, and everything else, anything electronic is prone to a breakdown at one time or another. Keeping the device "powered" 24/7 is just inviting a failure at one time or another. Best case scenario is it locks up, but other scenarios COULD be battery venting, shorted electronics, burned coils, etc. It's just a gamble in my eyes.

Even the Military recognizes this, and usually has a backup for anything life threatening... there's no computer that has a %100 up time.. it's not a matter of if, but when and how often that determines the quality of anything electronic. All that being said.. it could work, and you have no problems during the life of the mod. For me, I'd rather play it safe and charge it through the charger. If the battery wraps are an issue, spend the extra $1.50 and get a 50 pack of heat shrink tubes for them.

 

[daviedog]

I thought the DNA200 used Lipos?
DNA200 uses escribe, unravel battery charging woes there..

 

[bwh79]

I thought the DNA200 used Lipos?

DNA200 is just the board. There are some devices using the board that have LiPo packs and some that take 18650 batteries. The board just wants volts, it doesn't care how it gets them.

 

[daviedog]

DNA200 is just the board. There are some devices using the board that have LiPo packs and some that take 18650 batteries. The board just wants volts, it doesn't care how it gets them.

I have both, a lava box 200watt lipo & a hcigar vt133 18650, was told with 18650 (2) cannot reach 200watts.
The releaux 200dna is a lipo, almost bought. If there is a 3 battery DNA, please provide link. I'd like to get full 200 watt DNA with 18650s..

 

[bwh79]

I have both, a lava box 200watt lipo & a hcigar vt133 18650, was told with 18650 (2) cannot reach 200watts.

With two batteries, it cannot. The Reuleaux takes three batteries, though, not two.

If there is a 3 battery DNA, please provide link. I'd like to get full 200 watt DNA with 18650s..

Reuleaux DNA200 - Wismec Electronics Co.,Ltd

 

[sketchness]

I have both, a lava box 200watt lipo & a hcigar vt133 18650, was told with 18650 (2) cannot reach 200watts.
The releaux 200dna is a lipo, almost bought. If there is a 3 battery DNA, please provide link. I'd like to get full 200 watt DNA with 18650s..

better reviews for this 3 battery DNA chip Triade by Lost Vape Edit coupn code reddit10 for yep you guessed it 10% off lol

Edit - I have the 75watt Therion by Lost vape and love it, the Triade will be my next Mod purchase.

 

[daviedog]

Ugh,, last April while looking for a DNA 200, thought the realoux had lipo, thanks for settimg me straight..

 

[Tommy-Chi]

I'm not all that convinced that allowing a reasonable discharge to around 3v is bad for batteries. I've seen charts that say 500 cycles for discharge to 3v, and 1000 cycles for half of that discharge. Anybody can see that they are cycling the battery twice as much by only discharging the battery half as much. It's a nobrainer.

 

[vapesmooth123]

I'm not trying to cut corners and promote unsafe vaping to bypass dealing with an extra charger. Go ask the makers of the DNA200 board and they'll confirm %100 you can safely USB charge it. It's not even a question.


FYI, all of these things can happen with an external charger:
I can only add to what other's have already said... vaping via a passthrough is not really advisable on a mod that charges the battery. There are safety issues with the battery balancing, power spikes, and so much more that can go wrong. Keep in mind, even if it's the best designed electronics circuitry, and everything else, anything electronic is prone to a breakdown at one time or another. Keeping the device "powered" 24/7 is just inviting a failure at one time or another. Best case scenario is it locks up, but other scenarios COULD be battery venting, shorted electronics, burned coils, etc. It's just a gamble in my eyes.




Also just for added safety I do have my batteries max volts set a little lower for safety in escribe.

"If there is a 3 battery DNA, please provide link. I'd like to get full 200 watt DNA with 18650s.."

You must be new or something because the Reuleaux dna200 is triple 18650 and probably the most popular mod spammed right (that and the cheaper RX200 which uses the RX chip which is NOT recommended to USB charge [it also DISCHARGES improperly as well, so you're only half 'safe' if you charge externally]). There's also the RX2/3 which you can do two 18650 (maxes out at like 130Watts which should be more than enough though) or triple 18650 which I think they updated the USB firmware to something like 250 watts now which is way overkill unless you're using some specialty gigantic tank with tons of coil wire, which, could be your thing though.

The Triade is also a DNA board. I forgot why but it had slightly better specs that the Reuleaux dna200 but I got the Reuleaux because I don't buy leather found on the Triade.

As I'm writing this I'm realizing I'm just going to get another Reuleaux dna200 as my back up to replace the RX2/3 I never even used. The ~$90 difference was some what of a factor but I thought I'd need the RX2/3 as dual 18650 for times wearing sweatpants etc thinking triple would too big but I got used to triple. If I remember correctly, my only other best option was the
HCigar VT133 (with DNA200 at 133WAtts because it's only dual 18650) but the stupid battery door practically needs to be taped on or it keeps falling of many reviews state.

What boggles me really is all this talk about charging safety, external chargers, this and that. I don't know why a manufacturer doesn't just make a larger lipo pack with a high mAh as much as three 3,000 mAh LG browns, or close to it. It should actually be smaller in size because it's all in one wrapper. Then the batteries aren't in series, it's just one cell and from what I understand, you should be able to safely USB charge it with any cheap board. And then when the battery pack depletes in 9 months or however much you vape, you buy a new lipo battery pack instead of another 3X 18650 set. China please make that.