thicker juice at the bottom of the tank

[jabberwalkie]

So I would say I'm a noob, been smoke free for four months. I use the T3S and when I get down to .8ml the juice is darker and thicker. The taste isn't as strong but still there. I have asked others if they have this issue and they all agree its from the constant heating and cooling of the liquid. Why is it thicker though? I want to say its the wick picking up the less viscous liquid and leaving the thicker heavy stuff. Anyone have a clear answer?

Thanks

 

[Nataani]

I have never seen juice get thicker before, I currently have one tank nearly empty and another full, I notice no difference between the two.

Phase separation would be one possible answer, and would happen faster when the juice is heated, but you would notice distinct layers.

If that is happening then I would be suspect of the ingredients used in the juice.

As for the colour change, that is very common, most colour change takes place due to the oxidation of nicotine, which is a chemical reaction. Chemical reactions are sped up when the solution is heated.

 

[dash]

I have it happen to my larger tanks all the time. To me, it's just the nature of the beast.

 

[The Ocelot]

Juice can separate while in the bottle or a tank. It's always recommended to shake juice in the bottle before filling a device, but people forget about when it's in a tank. Vg is heavier than pg and will sink to the bottom. I regularly mix two juices of different colors, one is 100% vg and the other is 70pg/30vg. The separation is very easy to see.

You are correct that thinner liquid wicks first if not mixed well, to the point there is sometimes gunk left in the bottom, especially in top coil devices (this was more of a problem before clearos had replaceable heads or could be taken apart). What I do is periodically wrap the clearo/tank/whatever in a paper towel and give it a good shake.

 

[~Ricky~]

What I do is periodically wrap the clearo/tank/whatever in a paper towel and give it a good shake.

This is what I do too. I have several tanks and usually keep the same juice in each of them and just top them off over and over again. When I fill them back up there is most always some liquid left in the tank and after I fill them, I shake them. Shake them like a Polaroid picture.

 

[DaveOno]

Two things are happening. Heat and reduction.

Not everything in the liquid goes up in the vape. If 99.99% goes up, then there is 0.01% that doesn't. Much like reducing a sauce when cooking. But much more subtle. (In a way, fractional distillation.) Some juices need more heat to vape well, some can vaporize with less. This is the same for the components of the liquid.

After a few refills, the remnants are more concentrated with the non-vapable parts of the juice. This is why the flavor changes. This is why occasionally you have to rinse this out of the tank and wicks. The remnants get stronger and more concentrated.

Second, these remnants keep going to the coil and getting heated. They are "caramelizing".

So, these 2 effects together give you darker juice that doesn't vape nor taste like a clean tank with fresh juice.

If it was just the effect of the juice oxidizing, it would darken in a tank without vaping. I haven't seen that.

Every so often, someone has to empty and clean the coffee pot.

 

[lvm111]

Two things are happening. Heat and reduction.

Not everything in the liquid goes up in the vape. If 99.99% goes up, then there is 0.01% that doesn't. Much like reducing a sauce when cooking. But much more subtle. (In a way, fractional distillation.) Some juices need more heat to vape well, some can vaporize with less. This is the same for the components of the liquid.

After a few refills, the remnants are more concentrated with the non-vapable parts of the juice. This is why the flavor changes. This is why occasionally you have to rinse this out of the tank and wicks. The remnants get stronger and more concentrated.

Second, these remnants keep going to the coil and getting heated. They are "caramelizing".

So, these 2 effects together give you darker juice that doesn't vape nor taste like a clean tank with fresh juice.

If it was just the effect of the juice oxidizing, it would darken in a tank without vaping. I haven't seen that.

Every so often, someone has to empty and clean the coffee pot.

A while back, I noticed my bottles of Nicoticket juices had become much darker. They had always been kept in a dark place (a tackle box), in a temp controlled environment (my dining area). I realize these are desert juices, but still, it happened.

best regards, larry mac

 

[sc12]

A while back, I noticed my bottles of Nicoticket juices had become much darker. They had always been kept in a dark place (a tackle box), in a temp controlled environment (my dining area). I realize these are desert juices, but still, it happened.

best regards, larry mac

That darkening is normal. Your NT juices are getting tastier as they darken. Jump over to the Nicoticket supplier forum here on ECF for a better explanation than I can give.

 

[DaveOno]

Yes, I primarily use Halo juices, and I haven't noticed darkening. I really do need to try nicoticket. I've heard good things...

 

[PaulBHC]

Every so often, someone has to empty and clean the coffee pot.

Blasphemy

Yeah I get that especially with dark juice. I have one that looks like well used motor oil after a while. Still vapes though. Eventually I give up and wash it out. Pennies down the drain...

 

[NealBJr]

It's happens to me as well. I have some theories as well. I believe as you vape, not all liquid is vaped, some of it stays un-vaporized, and wicks down the wick mixing with your main tank. It does seem thicker. When that happens, I go up a watt (or .5 volts).

 

[Kagey K]

It is a naturaloccurrence and one that you should hope for. As you vape the thinnest parts are pulled though the wick first, which leaves that thick tasty vape at the bottom. Pour more juice in to keep the flavour concentrated or drop just a couple drops of water in to thin it out.

It is the highest concentrated flavour of whatever you are vaping at that point and totally worth it. Imo

 

[Starre]

This is what I do too. I have several tanks and usually keep the same juice in each of them and just top them off over and over again. When I fill them back up there is most always some liquid left in the tank and after I fill them, I shake them. Shake them like a Polaroid picture.

I was going to say keep them topped off with that kind of tank. I do a lot of mixing of flavors and always give each bottle a good shake before refills. My Protank doesn't hold much juice, don't have that problem using it.

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[Benzin]

I saw that darker liquid on the bottom of the tank all the time when i used clearos. Heres my theory:

Its not that the liquid is somehow "separating" into thiker ligher parts, or that its decomposing in any way.

In bottom coil tanks, the liquid is allways in contact with the wicks, wich are dirty from burnt liquid so the liquid is constantly "washing" that wick. So all that burnt stuff "washed" from the wick by the liquid, ends up at the bottom of the tank. And thats what you see as darker & thicker. Plus it also tastes like "old liquid".
Its just the burnt stuff washed from the wick.

 

[jabberwalkie]

turned up the vv and my ry4 is much sweeter but a little burnt. Thanks All for the insight