Thinking about getting a Tank... do I have to punch holes in my carts?

[m00nshake]

Hello everyone:

I'm not sure if this is in the correct thread so I apologize in advance if it's not.

I'm seriously considering getting a tank mod for my SB and I've been reading about people punching holes in their carts or something about slotted carts. Is it necessary to punch holes in a cart to use a tank? I am looking at different tanks available including ones available at cloudsofvapor, vaporescence, and other suppliers on these forums, and before I take the dive, I'd really like to know if this is necessary.

Thanks to everyone who responds,

m00n

 

[rook2pawn]

bump hopefully someone will know the answer to this

 

[fsroq]

Yes, with these tanks you must make some slots with a dremel, or punch them. It will take you a minit to do so.
Go for the DCT tank from COV. I have both, the DCT from COV, and the liquinator. The DCT has a tight fitting, the liquinator you never know how they come, some are good, others not so much.

 

[m00nshake]

Thanks for the reply. Already picked up a Liquinator, so I hope its a good one. If not, where can I get the COV? You said use a dremel or punch the carts? How do you punch the cart without a dremel?

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[Taniger1]

Yes there ARE carto's that come holed already!! You do NOT have to get a dremmel unless you decide you WANT to!!! With that in mind, you CAN of course get a dremmel of you want too. But it's NOT necassary.

 

[IOU]

Check out the original developers site here. They have everything you need at the best pricing you will find.
The best of luck

 

[Chopper71]

You can make them cheaper then buying them and they work just as good.

 

[m00nshake]

Well I saw a few places that sell them pre punched, but I've got nearly fifty carts in reserve from before ordering the tank, so I guess I'll have to get a dremel at some point. Thanks for all of the feedback, everyone

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[tonyorion]

There are two basic styles of cartos and therefore two different styles of tanks for cartos. However, there are now so many variations, model specific (eGo and some bottom feeders), and spin offs that it would take a doctoral thesis to keep them apart. So I am going to limit this to the original 510, 901, and 801 style metal tube carts and the CE 2 style clear tube carts.

The first is based on the original design which is a coil wrapped with some sort of filler and stuffed into a steel tube. The dual and triple coil cartos are all variations of this design, but they all require some sort of slot or hole to work with an after market tank.

The second style of carto uses a ceramic cup into which sits a portion of a wick wrapped around a coil with the rest dangling in the juice well. The cup is placed near the mouthpiece which gives a hot vape favored by many people. The original ceramic cup cartos used a plastic tube which cracked like crazy when exposed to the heat and a lot of juices, especially the fruity flavors. In desperation, the MAP tank was invented as an after market product. This type of tank requires you to remove the plastic tube and replace it with the MAP system. You do not need any drilling or cutting tools to use the MAP system: just wiggle off the plastic tube and insert it into the tank.

These two types are not interchangeable, although it would not surprise me to see some clever person come up with a universal tank system.

There has been a lot of development over the last 18 months or so in the area of juice feed systems. We were basically limited to your cart with all of the somewhat questionable filler materials and methods, to the messy dripping, and to the original cartomizers which dried out and burned quickly.

The consumer now has a lot of choices as far as feed systems are concerned. There are plenty of people out there who are willing to tell you about their preferred system and take up the banner to promote a favorite with religious zeal, even if it includes beheading, burning at the stake, and painful and horrible tortures for disagreeing with them.

 

[m00nshake]

There are two basic styles of cartos and therefore two different styles of tanks for cartos. However, there are now so many variations, model specific (eGo and some bottom feeders), and spin offs that it would take a doctoral thesis to keep them apart. So I am going to limit this to the original 510, 901, and 801 style metal tube carts and the CE 2 style clear tube carts.

The first is based on the original design which is a coil wrapped with some sort of filler and stuffed into a steel tube. The dual and triple coil cartos are all variations of this design, but they all require some sort of slot or hole to work with an after market tank.

The second style of carto uses a ceramic cup into which sits a portion of a wick wrapped around a coil with the rest dangling in the juice well. The cup is placed near the mouthpiece which gives a hot vape favored by many people. The original ceramic cup cartos used a plastic tube which cracked like crazy when exposed to the heat and a lot of juices, especially the fruity flavors. In desperation, the MAP tank was invented as an after market product. This type of tank requires you to remove the plastic tube and replace it with the MAP system. You do not need any drilling or cutting tools to use the MAP system: just wiggle off the plastic tube and insert it into the tank.

These two types are not interchangeable, although it would not surprise me to see some clever person come up with a universal tank system.

There has been a lot of development over the last 18 months or so in the area of juice feed systems. We were basically limited to your cart with all of the somewhat questionable filler materials and methods, to the messy dripping, and to the original cartomizers which dried out and burned quickly.

The consumer now has a lot of choices as far as feed systems are concerned. There are plenty of people out there who are willing to tell you about their preferred system and take up the banner to promote a favorite with religious zeal, even if it includes beheading, burning at the stake, and painful and horrible tortures for disagreeing with them.

Very well explained. One question I would have is, which method do you prefer? Judging by what you've stated, the ce2 carts would be the easiest way as you just remove the plastic tube. My entire stash of carts are normal Boge carts, so for the mean time, I would be using the Liquinator. Do you have any opinions on this particular tank mod?

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[tonyorion]

I personally do not like the CE2 style because of the coil location; but, as I said, some like the hotter vape. You could get around that with a longer tip. I never had a CE2 mod, but theoretically there should be no difference in taste between a MAP mod and an original. My only comparison is between a traditional carto/liquinator style and a factory CE2, or whatever itteration it is on now.

Perhaps someone with experience with both could shine more light on the topic.

 

[otrpu]

It's cheapest to make your own. But, I'm not cheap. I'm using my new SS Torpedo Tank, (C-E2 core), w/Pyrex barrel. I'm an ole duffer, means I don't like messin with nuttin. I work 12 hour nights and an hour to/from. I like one batt, and nuff juice to last to/from & while at work. What works for me is: ProVari, (extended), SS Torpedo Tank, w/Pyrex barrel. He's developing one that you punch the C-E2. I'm happy nuff with what I got. JMHO

Cheers,
otrpu

 

[m00nshake]

Great stuff... Keep em coming.. I've been vaping for almost two years now and I'm very interested in hearing your opinions on what the best tanks are and why. I've heard you can punch holes in a cart using a hammer and nail but I'm not sure how successful that would be, seems easy to damage the coil

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[incog]

Just get an Arry tank. You use the ce2 from clearomizers for it. They slide right in and out and it is leak proof. I love mine! I use the clearomizers with the ce2-r5 atty and my drip tip instead of the small tip that comes with the clearos.