I figured why not start with one of the best. Plus my daughter is dating someone who works at a vape lounge.
Thinking of spending the money for a provari
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I figured why not start with one of the best. Plus my daughter is dating someone who works at a vape lounge.
Perhaps the tone of my last post was harsher against the Provari than I meant. It really is a good device, with some limitations. For a large number of people, they don't need a device that will do more. My original intent was to indicate that there are other options out there. 15 watts is fine for pretty much any non-rebuildable atty. Sub-ohm is unnecessary on a regulated mod and you will bust the 15 watt limit too quickly.
I have been vaping for a bit over 4 years now, and see how quickly people's preferences in vaping change. I started when eGo's were the new hot thing, and thought they were great. Now several years later, they feel very anemic. Tastes change, and for the cost of the Provari you would hope it would be able to grow with you. I now find 25 - 30 watts quite enjoyable on an atty with adequate air flow, good size coils, and good juice delivery.
The other thing I've seen is that some devices get a cult following like the Provari, Apple, or Subaru. If you check around boards and someone hints that the Provari might not be the best device ever there is a swarm of righteous vengeance from Provari Fanboys/girls. I tend to be more analytical about these things, so this tends to annoy me as much as the people saying you must sub-ohm or you must build your own coils. I prefer reasons with some facts to just saying it's the best 'nuff said.
This does make it hard for someone that is new to vaping and has not seen what their preferences are yet to get honest research and to buy that "last mod I'll ever need." TBH, I haven't found that lost mod yet, let alone the best
I do need to apologize in that the OP's question was which Provari to get, not should they get one.
REALLY!!!!!!
Take a 1.5, 2.0, 2.5 Ohm coil and or any cartomizer you like and give it that 25 or 30 watts and take a draw. Tell me your throat doesn't close up from the HOT Vapor hitting it.
Get real. The only ohm coils that get any use out of those extra 15 watts are 1 ohm and below.
If that is your thing then yes you should not buy or use a Provari or 90+% of any of the regulated vaping battery devices on the market today.
Take a 1.5, 2.0, 2.5 Ohm coil and or any cartomizer you like and give it that 25 or 30 watts and take a draw. Tell me your throat doesn't close up from the HOT Vapor hitting it.
Get real. The only ohm coils that get any use out of those extra 15 watts are 1 ohm and below.
If that is your thing then yes you should not buy or use a Provari or 90+% of any of the regulated vaping battery devices on the market today.
REALLY!!!!!!
I met someone the other day, at a golf course bar, that was using a eGo style system. He had been vaping for 3-4 years. He was amazed to see my Provari with Kayfun Lite + attached (I've been vaping for 2.5+/- months).
Yes some tastes change and some stay the same.
Not sure what you have against the Provari or Provape or products made in the USA in general but you sure are trying to be nice while you denigrate them.
I'm not a FanBoy for anything and I've just started to use a Provari but your posts get to me. Not everyone Needs 30 watts. Not everyone want a 30 watt device. From what I've seen most all 30 watt devices are Box Mod's. I doubt I will ever own a Box Mod, I would of had one by now if I wanted one.
I met someone the other day, at a golf course bar, that was using a eGo style system. He had been vaping for 3-4 years. He was amazed to see my Provari with Kayfun Lite + attached (I've been vaping for 2.5+/- months).
Yes some tastes change and some stay the same.
Not sure what you have against the Provari or Provape or products made in the USA in general but you sure are trying to be nice while you denigrate them.
I'm not a FanBoy for anything and I've just started to use a Provari but your posts get to me. Not everyone Needs 30 watts. Not everyone want a 30 watt device. From what I've seen most all 30 watt devices are Box Mod's. I doubt I will ever own a Box Mod, I would of had one by now if I wanted one.
Perhaps the tone of my last post was harsher against the Provari than I meant. It really is a good device, with some limitations. For a large number of people, they don't need a device that will do more. My original intent was to indicate that there are other options out there. 15 watts is fine for pretty much any non-rebuildable atty. Sub-ohm is unnecessary on a regulated mod and you will bust the 15 watt limit too quickly.
I have been vaping for a bit over 4 years now, and see how quickly people's preferences in vaping change. I started when eGo's were the new hot thing, and thought they were great. Now several years later, they feel very anemic. Tastes change, and for the cost of the Provari you would hope it would be able to grow with you. I now find 25 - 30 watts quite enjoyable on an atty with adequate air flow, good size coils, and good juice delivery.
The other thing I've seen is that some devices get a cult following like the Provari, Apple, or Subaru. If you check around boards and someone hints that the Provari might not be the best device ever there is a swarm of righteous vengeance from Provari Fanboys/girls. I tend to be more analytical about these things, so this tends to annoy me as much as the people saying you must sub-ohm or you must build your own coils. I prefer reasons with some facts to just saying it's the best 'nuff said.
This does make it hard for someone that is new to vaping and has not seen what their preferences are yet to get honest research and to buy that "last mod I'll ever need." TBH, I haven't found that lost mod yet, let alone the best
I do need to apologize in that the OP's question was which Provari to get, not should they get one.
Aww... I'm a huge fan boy of provari, and I do vape my 1.7ohms coil between 15 and 22 ohms on my other mods
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I didn't read this whole thread, but I would never spend so much for such a low amp device.
On stock coils of clearos and cartos this is true, but when you get into rebuild ables you will find that you can build 1.6-1.8 ohm coils and vape 20-30 watts and get a really good vape.
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If you're looking for a good first and possibly last mod you'll ever need, I couldn't recommend the ProVari enough. I've been smoke free six months now. Just got the Provari a couple days ago, and I honestly don't know why I used anything before. I had an iTaste MVP which worked fine until it fell over one day and stripped the threading from a protank.
Someone said this exact same thing in my newbie thread, I wish I had just gone straight for the ProVari. Alot of ProVari users say the same thing, because they end up spending more on gear that doesn't satisfy than they would have if they had just bought the ProVari first off.
The thing is built like a tank, vapes consistently at whatever voltage you have it set to throughout the lifecycle of the battery. When you set the voltage, the unit figures out the wattage for you. If you're a newbie, you probably don't want to mess with wattage or amperage too much just yet. I myself wanted something sinple, and durable, that works.
I know it sounds like I'm just repeating the same ProVari rhetoric, but there's a reason it's constantly said over and over.
If you want the full size ProVari, you need to get the extender cap if you want to use it with 18650 batteries.
You'll also need to buy a tank. I'd recommend the Aspire Nautilus, it is a bottom fed, dual coil tank that holds five milliliters of liquid.
But honestly that's all just my personal opinion, sometimes you have to invest a little more for a quality product, and version 3 probably won't be much different from the 2.5, they don't change the formula much, because it works.
Someone said this exact same thing in my newbie thread, I wish I had just gone straight for the ProVari. Alot of ProVari users say the same thing, because they end up spending more on gear that doesn't satisfy than they would have if they had just bought the ProVari first off.
The thing is built like a tank, vapes consistently at whatever voltage you have it set to throughout the lifecycle of the battery. When you set the voltage, the unit figures out the wattage for you. If you're a newbie, you probably don't want to mess with wattage or amperage too much just yet. I myself wanted something sinple, and durable, that works.
I know it sounds like I'm just repeating the same ProVari rhetoric, but there's a reason it's constantly said over and over.
If you want the full size ProVari, you need to get the extender cap if you want to use it with 18650 batteries.
You'll also need to buy a tank. I'd recommend the Aspire Nautilus, it is a bottom fed, dual coil tank that holds five milliliters of liquid.
But honestly that's all just my personal opinion, sometimes you have to invest a little more for a quality product, and version 3 probably won't be much different from the 2.5, they don't change the formula much, because it works.
That is not my experience. I do rebuild on Kayfun clones and every time I try to go above 4 volts, on a 1.4-1.6 ohm coil, I get hot throat drying/irritating hits that do not give me any pleasure.
Granted my experience is limited but how many times do you need to take a draw and not be able to speak afterwards, and cough several times, to know your limitations.
If you get the extender and use 18650 batteries I would be very surprised if you go through even one battery a day. I typically get a day and a half vaping out of mine.
My room mate has a Provari 2.5 and I absolutely love it. Several weeks back I was on the verge of buying one myself. I was hovering over the purchase button when I decided to see if Provari was coming out with a V3 soon and sure enough I stumbled on PBusardo's video of the Provape tour. Now I'm waiting for the P3 to launch, but I can honestly say that if you went ahead and purchased a 2.5 you wouldn't regret it at all. Worth every penny.
Yes I am hoping for some reason it gets here earlier than I expected lol, wish it comes today.....im waiting by the door. I read through some of the last posts (3 pages) lol. some of you are arguing about the definitions of best and all that. As I have researched as someone said extensively I am going by the most common and most frequent reviews that yes.......the Provari will suit my needs perfectly. I am getting into rebuilding coils and soon hope to buy a rba most likely the kayfun.......im not going to get into sub ohming yet or dripping or any of that, I don't think im all that much into having an higher amp and all that. I just want to run my protanks or the kayfun and be happy right there. Im not into clouds and all that just want a steady good throat hit to satisfy me. I don't need extra buttons because in my mind that more buttons to be hit while in a pocket or pouch or whatnot, im sure ill get to be an expert at navigating my menu through one button while playing around with it. At first I thought I loved my mvp and I guess it will be a good backup to the provari but I am also a little disappointed with my mvp......I think mine doesn't last as long as others(maybe something wrong with it) it rarely sees the 600 puff mark before I have to charge it......I don't think im as heavy vaper as most but I am a heavy vaper to me. I guess I do about 400 puffs a day and fill the protank about 3 times.....I hate the little 10 second cut off, I take long puffs and that I don't even do the primer puffs that I see most people do, just one long big puff lol. It also feels like the hits on my mvp change the longer I go....it gets weaker in my opinion. I actually think my vision spinner gives me better throat hits than my mvp and I don't know why. So im very excited to get my provari soon....maybe I will look into a different mod (cheaper than the provari but a good one such as lavatube or vamo to be a back up)?????? I hear the vamo doesn't hold the battery well and tight(a lot of loose play). Thing is I already pushed my fiancé over the edge with the Provari purchase and I will have to wait a while before buying anything else to let her get over it lol.
ive also noticed when I build my own coil about between 1.8 to 2.2 the mvp will handle it without the battery or tank getting "hot". But when I put it on the vision spinner I can only take about two puffs and have to set it down because the spinner gets hot. I don't understand because when I put a store baught 2.2 ohm coil on the vision spinner it doesn't get hot but if I build my own at the same ohm it gets hot. And another thing......when I do build my own coil it works great for about an hour then it changes like it gets a tighter draw and starts gurgling.....I can only think that it is the amount of cotton im using because it seems to me that the coil im building is pretty good......so with the cotton I pull a little piece off and twist the end, thread it through, I leave the middle of the cotton puffy and I tug it through then snip the edges off. Now should there be some loose play in there or should it be somewhat tight? Should I use a flavor wick too and should that be slightly smaller than the coil wick?.....I presume using a flavor wick also protects the metal from hitting the coils along with helping with flavor?
There should be some play in it. Too tight and it chokes off the liquid and you will get dry hits. With cotton, as soon as that happens, the wick is toast.
There should be a slight drag as you tug the cotton in the coil but should slide fairly easily. Remember, cotton expands a bit when it gets wet.
Hope this helps
There should be a slight drag as you tug the cotton in the coil but should slide fairly easily. Remember, cotton expands a bit when it gets wet.
Hope this helps
That does help, I may have been tugging it until it is tight inside the coil.....ill do a little less next time and see how it goes. Thank you
I agree that people's preferences for what they want from vaping may grow and change (or not, many people are quite happy with eGo-type devices), but I think you skimmed over innovation. Were the devices you use now that make eGos seem anemic available when you got your eGo? Was a device able to produce 25-30 watts readily available even in 2012?
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I'm sure you will be very please with your purchase and if there comes a time you decide to get into another style of vaping you can get another device. How many people do you know that have just one?
The ProVari has a 16 second cut-off by the way.
(Although you may have been referring to your MVP, I'm unclear on that.)Yes I was referring to the mvp......and I have only been vaping for the last two months.....I started with the ego kit, then a week later I got the vision spinner and a week after that I got the mvp lol. Im progressing faster than most lol. On the other hand my fiancé who didn't smoke is using the ego kit still and is perfectly happy with that.
So I am wondering if when my provari shows up do I need to put my batteries in the charger right off or do they come charged lol? Its going to madness waiting for them to charge.
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