Thinking of spending the money for a provari

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omg you all just turned my thread into a science project that I don't friggin understand lol.....I was never good at math or science or or or this lol

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I've decided the provari isn't worth the money for what it does. It does look nice sitting on my shelf, but that's all it does. I would rather buy a nice dna30 or sx350 mod

Do you Sub-Ohm? If not those other 2 mods you list don't do anything more than the PV will do. You are just fooling yourself thinking they do.

If you are a Sub-Ohmer then yes the PV isn't for you.
 

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Do you Sub-Ohm? If not those other 2 mods you list don't do anything more than the PV will do. You are just fooling yourself thinking they do.

If you are a Sub-Ohmer then yes the PV isn't for you.

I run between .8 and 1.2 on kayfuns so I suppose I sub-ohm a little, but the problem with the pv is the 3 amp limit even for use with dual coil clearos


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Im still waiting on the VV/VW Provari ... once they do that, then it will be worth the money...

Why? VW is the same as VV. You raise or lower one and the other goes up or down accordingly. In my honest opinion there Is No Difference.

If a VW device does .1 or .2 watt increments then you will have slightly more control that is IF that device can actually output the wattage and volts you have it set to. As it is with most VW devices they go up or down in .5 watt increments. There is more control with VV on those devices.
 

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Please tell me you're kidding. Please please please please please please please


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Once again, whatever device you are using for your calculations is rounding the numbers, so 2.3 became 2 and 1.8 became 2.

Going around the wheel:

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Power (watts) divided by current (I) equals voltage
Current times resistance equals voltage
The square root of power times resistance equals voltage

The square root of power divided by resistance equals current
Power divided by voltage equals current
Voltage divided by resistance equals current

Power divided by current times current equals resistance
Voltage times voltage divided by power equals resistance
Voltage divided by current equals resistance

Current times voltage equals power
Current times current times resistance equals power
Voltage times voltage divided by resistance equals power (watts)

This really is getting into minutia. As far as vaping, the difference between these numbers is so small it doesn't make any difference.

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I skimmed through the first 35 pages, so someone probably already mentioned this. There really is no point in sub-ohming a regulated mod.

The goal is to get watts to the coil, unregulated mods sub-ohm to up the amps to up the watts, regulated mods up the volts to up the watts.

As someone mentioned earlier, I would spend the money on a DNA30 or SX350 mod. Not to sub-ohm, but to get 30 watts to the coil instead of 12. The Provari is very well built mod, solid construction and machining. But in car terms it is the best built 1.5L four cylinder car on the road, priced the same as a BMW M3. That being said, depending on what you are vaping, you may only need 2.5 amp/~12 watt mod.
 

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I skimmed through the first 35 pages, so someone probably already mentioned this. There really is no point in sub-ohming a regulated mod.

The goal is to get watts to the coil, unregulated mods sub-ohm to up the amps to up the watts, regulated mods up the volts to up the watts.

As someone mentioned earlier, I would spend the money on a DNA30 or SX350 mod. Not to sub-ohm, but to get 30 watts to the coil instead of 12. The Provari is very well built mod, solid construction and machining. But in car terms it is the best built 1.5L four cylinder car on the road, priced the same as a BMW M3. That being said, depending on what you are vaping, you may only need 2.5 amp/~12 watt mod.

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My mistake, I was going on previous experience with a V1, which did error out before 13 watts. The underlying statement really doesn't change though. ProVape's chart caps it at 15 watt for the V1 and 14.5 watt for the V2 (2nd page), saying that fluid taste burnt beyond that.

8 watts is enjoyable for most cartos and clearomizers. If you are using an RBA with larger coils and better juice delivery than cartos or clearomizers, the significantly higher 30 watts from a DNA30 or SX350 will show a clear benefit. You can build to the limitations of the Provari, but at $160 - $220 you should not have to.
 

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My mistake, I was going on previous experience with a V1, which did error out before 13 watts. The underlying statement really doesn't change though. ProVape's chart caps it at 15 watt for the V1 and 14.5 watt for the V2 (2nd page), saying that fluid taste burnt beyond that.

8 watts is enjoyable for most cartos and clearomizers. If you are using an RBA with larger coils and better juice delivery than cartos or clearomizers, the significantly higher 30 watts from a DNA30 or SX350 will show a clear benefit. You can build to the limitations of the Provari, but at $160 - $220 you should not have to.

That's like saying an Otto Carter mod isn't worth the price because it doesn't have an ohms checker. If the ProVari doesn't have certain features that are important to you, buy something else.
 
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Otto Carters are hand engraved vape art. At $2000 - $3000, they are hardly comparable to a mass produced VV/VW mod. With an Otto Carver you are paying for hand crafted skill and exclusivity, not performance or features. And with a $10 Sony VTC5, $10 IGO-W, and about $0.50 of wire and cotton, it will grossly outperform the Provari.

I mentioned in the previous post, that depending on what you are vaping the Provari is fine. The OP said he wanted the best and only wanted to spend this kind of money once. The build quality on the Provari is great, but not necessarily the best. Performance on the Provari is nowhere near the best, not even at that price range. Functionally, they should have changed out the single button interface a while ago. I may have offended you, but what is the Provari the best at besides the best Provari?

Not everyone gets into RBA's; nor should they as its not everyone's cup of tea. The Provari is perfect for cartos and clearomizers as they fall well within its limitations. Even if you go RBA, you can always build to the limitations of the Provari. But, you can't dress it up as the best. If someone is looking to buy the best after a month of vaping, there should be no problem presenting the alternatives or explaining why the Provari may not be the best. They don't know where vaping will take them in the next 6 mo to a year, even if they don't get into RBA's other options will handle cartos and clearomizers as well. If they do, they may be appreciative of an additional 15 watts to play with.

It is the OP's money afterall.
 

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Otto Carters are hand engraved vape art. At $2000 - $3000, they are hardly comparable to a mass produced VV/VW mod. With an Otto Carver you are paying for hand crafted skill and exclusivity, not performance or features. And with a $10 Sony VTC5, $10 IGO-W, and about $0.50 of wire and cotton, it will grossly outperform the Provari.

I mentioned in the previous post, that depending on what you are vaping the Provari is fine. The OP said he wanted the best and only wanted to spend this kind of money once. The build quality on the Provari is great, but not necessarily the best. Performance on the Provari is nowhere near the best, not even at that price range. Functionally, they should have changed out the single button interface a while ago. I may have offended you, but what is the Provari the best at besides the best Provari?

Not everyone gets into RBA's; nor should they as its not everyone's cup of tea. The Provari is perfect for cartos and clearomizers as they fall well within its limitations. Even if you go RBA, you can always build to the limitations of the Provari. But, you can't dress it up as the best. If someone is looking to buy the best after a month of vaping, there should be no problem presenting the alternatives or explaining why the Provari may not be the best. They don't know where vaping will take them in the next 6 mo to a year, even if they don't get into RBA's other options will handle cartos and clearomizers as well. If they do, they may be appreciative of an additional 15 watts to play with.

It is the OP's money afterall.

Ahhhh the button issue.
More buttons does make things better

The OP appears to have done quite a bit of research and was asking if he should get a 2.5 provari or wait for the upcoming V3. His idea of best might possibly be the same as mine as well as some other people.
That word best, such a perceptually based word. Best to me, best to you, best to my next door neighbor might possible be three different things. Best car to me is a corvette, to my neighbor it's a porche, to my wife a Camry.

Back to the PVs, I thought of provari as best after doing research for about a month. Because I don't have much money to spend, I wanted what could be the last PV I would have to buy. (Similar statement to the OPs) I decided on provari for three reason:
It's near dc frequency (I know it's not dc 800hz)
It's proven track record for durability
It's proven track record for accuracy
It's proven track record of support by its mfg..
The fact that I knew after a month that I didn't care to subohm or vape higher wattage then what it offers.
The fact that I wanted a PV that short of an asteroid hitting earth, it would always work.

Hence after the research I decided, on my own, that I wanted a one button provari.
I just wish it had more buttons.

I am only assuming that based off the way the OP worded his question that the decision was already made. If I'm wrong then maybe I should apologize.
You're correct the provari is lacking more buttons, it lacks the ability to subohm and put out 30 watts. If that is what someone wants the provari is the wrong choice. If someone wants what has been listed above; it's the right choice.
Like you said it's his money to spend as he wishes; and, his device. Therefore as members of the forum I find it incumbent to answer the questions asked.
If this is kit of line I do apologize; however; perceptually based idioms such as the word,"best," should be defined in the situation.
Best does not equate to more of some assumed variable.


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