This "drops" thing is making me insane

[RobinBanks]

How much is a stinking drop?

I want to use my Inawera flavors and I can only find recommended "drops" for the majority of flavors I have purchased. A lot of recipes are calling for drops and some of my flavors are in Inawera original bottles but some are decanted and don't even have a dropper.

Drops don't seem very science-y to me.

 

[Aurora-Oblivion]

Most of the time when you see drops per ml used for Inawera you should change the drops per ml in your calculator to 50 drops (That's what most use on the forums for Inawera original bottles only).

Most of the time you see drops mentioned with Inawera the user usually gives percent also, but if not here's the generally accepted standard - for example at 50 drops per ml when mixing a 10ml bottle 2% = 10 drops / 3% = 15 drops / 4% = 20 drops / 5% = 25 drops and so on.

For your non-original bottles, you'll need to either measure the drops from each bottle type for per ml, or just use a syringe and %.

Yes it's not very exact or science-y Most only use drops for small 10 batches or testing flavors to see around what percent they like, then use percent and syringe for larger than test sample bottles

 

[RobinBanks]

Most of the time you see drops mentioned with Inawera the user usually gives percent also, but if not here's the generally accepted standard - for example at 50 drops per ml when mixing a 10ml bottle 2% = 10 drops / 3% = 15 drops / 4% = 20 drops / 5% = 25 drops and so on.

This is the key information I was missing. Thank you so much!!

 

[Aurora-Oblivion]

You're welcome, hope you enjoy your creations!

Here's some reviews I did on Inawera flavors, if you want more flavor info
Inawera Flavor Review - 45 Flavors From InaweraShop - Add Yours Too! | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[RobinBanks]

You're welcome, hope you enjoy your creations!

Here's some reviews I did on Inawera flavors, if you want more flavor info
Inawera Flavor Review - 45 Flavors From InaweraShop - Add Yours Too! | E-Cigarette Forum

Wow. awesome. Thank you so much a gain!

 

[Aurora-Oblivion]

Your welcomes

I've tested many others that I didn't get around to reviewing too, so if you have any questions about a flavor I didn't cover there feel free to ask me and I'll let you know my thoughts if I did try it

 

[Cool_Breeze]

Percentages are constant across delivery devices and volumes mixed. No assumptions need apply other than the ability to understand and work with percentages.

 

[kaahn]

How much is a stinking drop?

I want to use my Inawera flavors and I can only find recommended "drops" for the majority of flavors I have purchased. A lot of recipes are calling for drops and some of my flavors are in Inawera original bottles but some are decanted and don't even have a dropper.

Drops don't seem very science-y to me.

Buy you a nice set of scales for about $20 bucks off of eBay. One that measures to the 1/100th of a gram or .00 increments and mix by weight. It's super clean and less waste and extremely accurate not to mention extremely easy. You will never look back.

 

[RobinBanks]

Percentages are constant across delivery devices and volumes mixed.

Yep. I wish all manufacturer recommendations and recipes were percentages. That would be perfect!

 

[Mad Scientist]

How much is a stinking drop?

I want to use my Inawera flavors and I can only find recommended "drops" for the majority of flavors I have purchased. A lot of recipes are calling for drops and some of my flavors are in Inawera original bottles but some are decanted and don't even have a dropper.

Drops don't seem very science-y to me.

I agree, drops is not really a measure. I ignore recipes specified in drops. Might as well specify "some of this and some more of that."

 

[dead not sleeping]

Drops are not a very accurate way of measuring out stuff unless its a very small drop. They are useful when developing micro test batches though as long as you use the same dropper to measure all of the ingredients. One Halo dropper will drop 20. Another Halo dropper will drop 23. Another Halo dropper will drop 18. A 28 ga insulin needle will drop ~250 drops per ml. This makes things a little tough when 30 mls contains 2500+ drops of just pg. Best to use a syringe, or a scale. But, when using a scale you still have to know what 1 ml of whatever you are using weighs (density). At the very least, you need a syringe to get a constant to go by. If you have a scale and no syringe to get a constant off of, you can take a small vial (a tall skinny one is best), put it on your scale, weigh it, record that weight on the vial, then zero it out (tare). Drop water into it until it weighs 1 gram. Draw a line on the vial at the water level, this is your 1 ml line (1 gram of water = 1ml). Dump out the water, tare it out to 0 again, and fill your flavoring to the line (1 ml of flavoring). This is the weight of one ml of ingredient. Easier if you just get a syringe though and avoid all the math.

 

[Alter]

I never use drops to measure since there is so much variance between droppers, some 20 drops/ml up to 40/ml so having to use the same dropper several times during a mix would be hassle, even worse would be keeping track of the droppers drops per ml. Gezz I just pop the plunger out of the syringe and pour in the concentrate or base, no rocket science for me. I use veterinary syringes so they are accurate not like the mail order ones that can vary depending on where the markings are so added to the hassle would be to calibrate your syringes and beakers....no thanks.
K.I.S.S. method has gotten me through a lot already so why can't it apply to vaping.

 

[Heavyrocker]

If you are making small batches at a time,say like 5 mill,like i do,drops are the only way to go.

 

[gzin44]

I just dont see the point in 5ml batches. Honestly I never make less than 30ml to truly get the taste of what I make during the life of the product. This way you can tell if it gets better with age. I guess its just personal preference but I never have and never will use drops. I am a perfectionist and want exact measurements.

 

[WereBear]

I just dont see the point in 5ml batches. Honestly I never make less than 30ml to truly get the taste of what I make during the life of the product. This way you can tell if it gets better with age. I guess its just personal preference but I never have and never will use drops. I am a perfectionist and want exact measurements.

I can see your logic but I just don't have the patience you do. I almost never start mixing until I run out of juice and want to vape it straight away. My DIY juice only ever gets steeped if its a bad batch and only then because I'm too cheap to throw it out. But even if it tastes good after a month, I just don't try that recipe again. Too many recipes that are good right out of the beaker to clutter up my juice shelf with "maybe" juices.

As to drops versus weight or volume, I prefer drops because it's easier to add a drop of flavor in a weak batch than it is to redo the math and add more VG/PG/nic to a too strong batch.