This is why I hate attys
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You might try adjusting your draw. Not so fast and a tad softer. Sometimes our draw displaces the juice away from the coil. Also the angle that you hold the REO might cause the juice to move up the atty. If I happen to flood a little I will tilt the REO more and let the juice come up the tube. A few hits like that and the amount of juice is reduced enough. You really have to take slow and easy draws while doing that though!
Check the draw and also how you are holding your REO. Hope this helps.
I do adjust my draw often, nothing seems to ever work. I did just install a drip tip with a larger diameter hole. This seemed to help stop the spitting to a degree.
I used to hate atty's too till I got my Cisco spec 306's!! Never knew an atty could produce so much flavor & vapor!
Honestly it sounds like the atty is not the issue. You need squonk practice. Good squonking equals perfect vaping 
It's a bummer you have so much trouble with attys. - But, it makes your choice of a REO that much better since they are both atty *and* carto friendly. That's one of the things I really take pleasure in with my REOs. I went on a carto buying spree a while back to figure out for myself which cartos were good and which ones were not worth while. I ended up with a couple of hundred or so good cartos in my inventory. I often use LR cartos on my Mini, and have used 2.5, 2.8, and 3.0 ohm cartos on my VVW.
After reading your threads regarding your atty problems, I think I'd like to suggest you try a super shorty carto on your REO. They're pretty good for flavor and they're easy to clean (if you are so inclined). The shortys don't hold much juice so they're a little more like squonking an atty, but more forgiving for over feed - and the flavor changes if you've underfed, so they make it really obvious when you need to give them a squonk.
After reading your threads regarding your atty problems, I think I'd like to suggest you try a super shorty carto on your REO. They're pretty good for flavor and they're easy to clean (if you are so inclined). The shortys don't hold much juice so they're a little more like squonking an atty, but more forgiving for over feed - and the flavor changes if you've underfed, so they make it really obvious when you need to give them a squonk.
I used to hate attys but hated cartos worse...I WAS the atty killer!!
But I kept on = persisted... now I don't kill them so often and they give me good flavor- not sure exactly what I did...maybe I didn't squonk anymore when I got a slight dry hit...waited a bit- the cooler juice kills atty's if you get the coil wet when it's hot. I have also learned to keep them wetter (in general) than before- this is a "MUST" if you are using VV at all... Anyway, it's all a matter of practice. Practice on cheaper attys- no need in buying the expensive ones until you get this down! I buy the $3 EM LR 510's from Rob's site.
But I kept on = persisted... now I don't kill them so often and they give me good flavor- not sure exactly what I did...maybe I didn't squonk anymore when I got a slight dry hit...waited a bit- the cooler juice kills atty's if you get the coil wet when it's hot. I have also learned to keep them wetter (in general) than before- this is a "MUST" if you are using VV at all... Anyway, it's all a matter of practice. Practice on cheaper attys- no need in buying the expensive ones until you get this down! I buy the $3 EM LR 510's from Rob's site.
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I have been using the Shorty 1.7 Cartos for the last few months with great success. Only thing I dont like is they last me 2 or 3 days tops before they start tasting awful. Thats what keeps me going back to atty experimentation.
Only this time I decided to give it 1 final shot by ordering a "custom" version of a popular atty made specifically for VG juice. (Although Im still not quite sure what the difference is between the PG and VG version...)
After a break in it seems to be working....ok. I think the drip tip with the larger air canal made a huge difference. I get much less spitting. I think theres some Bernoulli's principle going on there.
Only this time I decided to give it 1 final shot by ordering a "custom" version of a popular atty made specifically for VG juice. (Although Im still not quite sure what the difference is between the PG and VG version...)
After a break in it seems to be working....ok. I think the drip tip with the larger air canal made a huge difference. I get much less spitting. I think theres some Bernoulli's principle going on there.
With short atty's I get that same problem. Especially with the Empire Mods short 1.5 Ohm attys. Either burnt or spit, no in between.
However, using a long barrel HH.357, I don't get the spitting and as long as there is juice in the atty, no burning juice.
So conversely, I would suggest trying out a long barrel atty. I've always found them to spit less just due to the nature of it being a longer barrel.
However, using a long barrel HH.357, I don't get the spitting and as long as there is juice in the atty, no burning juice.
So conversely, I would suggest trying out a long barrel atty. I've always found them to spit less just due to the nature of it being a longer barrel.
Ive tried the Long Barrel ones too. This particular custom one Im using now is a short one.
Im entirely convinced the spitting issues I was having was my choice in drip tips. I was using Super T non-drip whistle style tips. They are nice because they are flat but they have a very small diameter air canal. The new tips Im using have a large air canal probably 2x larger. My theory was that the small diameter of the whistle tips was causing any juice that happen to spit to be drawn all the way up, while on the flip side, the larger diameter hole allows for lower air velocity letting the heavier juice to not be carried by the moving air.
Im entirely convinced the spitting issues I was having was my choice in drip tips. I was using Super T non-drip whistle style tips. They are nice because they are flat but they have a very small diameter air canal. The new tips Im using have a large air canal probably 2x larger. My theory was that the small diameter of the whistle tips was causing any juice that happen to spit to be drawn all the way up, while on the flip side, the larger diameter hole allows for lower air velocity letting the heavier juice to not be carried by the moving air.
I have the super T non drip whistle as well and you are correct. Mine just sits in a drawer looking pretty.
Shame for what they cost.
Well, that's really good news! I'm glad to hear you've sorted it out.
I think I've sorted out my problem with the hh.357 on the REO too. I've always blind squonked and relied on the little bit of "gurgley" feedback to know when I'd squonked enough. The hh.357 doesn't have the same feedback when I suck juice up in to it. - Today, I decided to have another go with the hh and decided to try not blind squonking and doing what others describe of squeezing the bottle until a little bit of juice is in the cup and then sucking it up in to the atty. So far, so good.
Sorry for the shameless plug here but you may also consider a Trippy Tip Donut like these
they come in many colors and sizes and COV still has some in stock here Trippy Tips they're not cheap but they eliminate juice re-flux syndrome Pink Spot is also getting some very soon just a thought!
and to whom it may concern I also plug Reos at every given opportunity in the Trippy thread (I'm such a rebel)
they come in many colors and sizes and COV still has some in stock here Trippy Tips they're not cheap but they eliminate juice re-flux syndrome
Pink Spot is also getting some very soon just a thought! and to whom it may concern I also plug Reos at every given opportunity in the Trippy thread (I'm such a rebel)
mwa talked me in to those a while back
Availability has been an issue. And, knock-offs has been a problem for me too. I bought a couple that I *thought* were trippies, but turned out to be not (and they are useless). I thought the vendor left me high and dry on those, but I was just cruising my spam folder this morning before dumping it and discovered he said I could return them...
Sorry for the shameless plug here but you may also consider a Trippy Tip Donut like these
they come in many colors and sizes and COV still has some in stock here Trippy Tips they're not cheap but they eliminate juice re-flux syndrome
and to whom it may concern I also plug Reos at every given opportunity in the Trippy thread (I'm such a rebel)
Please can I see the one in the middle on an atomizer? A few weeks back there was only one trippy tip on that site that was blue/white swirled, but when I got it, it was significantly bigger than I thought it would be. It found it's way to a new owner in the PIF subforum.
I started this thread about a week ago when I was testing my new custom atty. It turns out my choice of drip tip was a major cause of my troubles. Ive been going 1 week strong now with the same atty! Its a record for me!
I still have some lingering doubts about attys though, Ive had to clean it twice in the last week due to bad taste. And overall performance and flavor seems to be getting worse. Overall though, Im happy Ive finally made it past the 1 week mark with the same atty/carto.
I must say, when its working, its a cloud-forming monster.
I still have some lingering doubts about attys though, Ive had to clean it twice in the last week due to bad taste. And overall performance and flavor seems to be getting worse. Overall though, Im happy Ive finally made it past the 1 week mark with the same atty/carto.
I must say, when its working, its a cloud-forming monster.
If you are getting a bad taste after a week it's burning. Your running it too dry.
This is the part that gets me...Ive had people say Im running too dry before. The problem is I go from flooded, gurgly, spitting, full catch cup, low vapor hit to hot dry burnt hits in only a few pulls, with no real indication that it needs more juice, it just goes from one extreme to the other with barely any sweet spot.
When I can tell its at or near flooded, I take softer pulls trying to avoid spitting. Then next pull BAM burnt dry hit.
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