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Txrider

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I guess if you wedge the button down when you go to bed the coil would be just warming as you woke up in the morning.

That would again be down to watts law. I could make a 100 wrap coil and make it heat up in a fraction of a second, you simply have to apply a higher voltage.

Thrasher, my reference to using ohms law was more of a "I have x volts batteries supplying voltage, I have y resistance wire, I want z number of watts of power. I use watts law to get my voltage and current for the power I want, I then use ohms law to find the total coil resistance I need to achieve the wattage I desire with the voltage I have. Then I could for example select the proper wire guage using the rated resistance per inch to obtain the resistance I arrived at using the number of coils I desire. Calculating length of wire per wrap is simple geometry.
 

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That would again be down to watts law. I could make a 100 wrap coil and make it heat up in a fraction of a second, you simply have to apply a higher voltage.
3ohm coil of .28 Kanthal being pushed at a higher voltage to heat as fast a 3ohm coil of .20 Kanthal won't result in the same watt output and could burn the juice. Watts law is a theory base on perfect conditions and we're applying it to a world with imperfect circumstances (thicker wire takes longer to heat up).

If a vaper is calculating the amount of watts they want the coil to output, applying a higher voltage to heat a stupidly long and thick coil up faster but ending with incorrect (approximate) wattage and burnt juice makes no sense unless you've got a Janty Mid-style system that blasts a coil with 8.4v then jumps down to 4/5/whatever volts.
 

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3ohm coil of .28 Kanthal being pushed at a higher voltage to heat as fast a 3ohm coil of .20 Kanthal won't result in the same watt output and could burn the juice. Watts law is a theory base on perfect conditions and we're applying it to a world with imperfect circumstances (thicker wire takes longer to heat up).

If a vaper is calculating the amount of watts they want the coil to output, applying a higher voltage to heat a stupidly long and thick coil up faster but ending with incorrect (approximate) wattage and burnt juice makes no sense unless you've got a Janty Mid-style system that blasts a coil with 8.4v then jumps down to 4/5/whatever volts.

I get where you're trying to go with this, but I think it came out all wrong.

Watt's Law is not a theory...that's why it's a law. ;) 1 watt is always going to be 1 amp at 1 volt, no matter if you are trying to heat 1 ounce or 1 pound.

What you are talking about is thermal inertia; the amount of energy that is needed to get from A to B (in this case A & B are temperatures) in a certain amount of time. More mass (thicker or longer wire) will require more energy than less mass to achieve identical acceleration, just as it would take more energy to throw a bowling ball at the same speed as a baseball. The problem is what happens when you reach the desired wire temperature. Other than the Janty-Mid, no other APV's can throttle back the power, so you would usually overheat the coil and burn the juice. The only solutions are either a really good juice supply (how else would 20+ watts on an RBA/RDA taste as good as it does) or you deal with the lag time of a slow heating coil.
 
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