Thoughts On LR vs. HV...

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I received my order of Ikenvape HV 306 attys. I'm waiting for my batteries to come in. I'm enjoying the use of LR 510s, LR 306s and LR 801 minis at 3.7V. I'm going to start my journey in HV. I've read that LR is supposed to simulate the flavor and vapor of HV. Before the rest of my stuff comes in, I'd like to find out from the LR and HV crowd (or experienced in both) is there truly a difference!? Overall, I'm learning a lot and having fun in the wonderful world of vaping. Let me know because I love keeping an open mind to things... Thanks!!:vapor:
 

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From my experience, vaping at 3.7v with LR attys does not duplicate true 5 volt vaping or if using a VV PV, even 4.7 volts to 5+ volts. It's better than regular attys at 3.7 volts but does not have the throat hit or consistency found with a good 5 volt PV such as the GLV2 or a good variable volt PV. I've also found that the LR attys just don't hold up as long, either. Some brands I have found to be "harsh" instead of the nice smooth throat hit you get with a 5 volt PV and a good BE112 atty.
 

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I just tried an HR on a bb3.7 and didnt care for the outcome. i barely had any vapor produced. I prefer a lr over the hr

A 3.7V PV won't put out enough voltage to heat up the coil of an HV atty properly. That's why you didn't get enough vapor production. HV atties will only perform well at 5V+
 
Thank you path77, I didn't realize this. These were given to me and since I dont have a 5v+, i may have to hand them down.

A 3.7V PV won't put out enough voltage to heat up the coil of an HV atty properly. That's why you didn't get enough vapor production. HV atties will only perform well at 5V+
 

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Thank you path77, I didn't realize this. These were given to me and since I dont have a 5v+, i may have to hand them down.

Or you could just pick up a 5V pass-thru to see if you like the higher voltage. I haven't tried 5V yet, but I plan on picking up a PT soon just to try it out.
 

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I was having this debate with myself (yeah I talk to myself) and basically I think that, on 3.7v, a regular 510 atty, debridged and de-wicked, is actually a better flavor than LR. I have both 306 and 510 LR attys in 1.5-1.8ohm, 510 attys in 2ohm and ONE 510 atty in regular rated 2.4-2.6, and honestly the regular atty "tastes" better. The LR attys are hotter and kick out more vapor, but they eat up juice and burn some flavors.
Wintergreen, menthols, nutty and tobacco flavors taste ok on LR but fruity/candy flavors, or flavors with a very specific taste like waffle or blueberry muffin are best at a 2.4-3ohm resistance on 3.7v.

What I've been told is that even when vaping at 5v you're better off using a standard atty. I'm under the impression that HV attys are for 6v devices.
 

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The way that I've come to understand the vaping experience is in terms of wattage. LR atties on 3.7V batts is a way of pulling out the wattage that you would get from a SR or HV atty at 5V or 6V.

3.7V with 1.5Ω atty = 9.1watts
5V with 2.6Ω atty = 9.6watts
6v with 3.5Ω atty = 10.2 watts

But from what I've read, even though you're getting similar wattage, a lot of people say that the HV setups give a strong but smooth TH (as opposed to the somewhat harsh TH you get from the LR setup). But I guess the only real way for me to find out is to try it out myself.
 

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I just built a 5 volt box mod and used stcok 510 atty.It's not even close to the performace of my 3.7 volt box mod with lr cartomizers.I love the way my3.7 and lr stuff works now the 5 volts is just sittin around.

My 5V boxes running a SR Joye 510 atomizer kick the crap out of any of my three 3.7V devices running even high quality LRs. It's a much nicer vaping experience in terms of both performance and flavor with the vast majority of juices I have tried at both.
 

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I just tried an HR on a bb3.7 and didnt care for the outcome. i barely had any vapor produced. I prefer a lr over the hr

Using an HR atty on 3.7 volt PV is not recommended. 3.7 volts is not enough power to effectively drive an HR atty. HR attys are made to use ONLY on 5+ volt PV's.
 

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Or you could just pick up a 5V pass-thru to see if you like the higher voltage. I haven't tried 5V yet, but I plan on picking up a PT soon just to try it out.

Just make sure you don't plug that PT into your computer USB port. One, you won't get true 5 volts, second, you could damage your computer. Get a good 5 volt/2 amp USB to AC wall adapter to plug your PT into.
 

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..........What I've been told is that even when vaping at 5v you're better off using a standard atty. I'm under the impression that HV attys are for 6v devices.

I agree that you don't need HV attys when vaping between 4.5 and 5 volts. I think regular attys are better. The best overall choice IMO is a good variable volt PV such as the Darwin. Then any atty or carto you have will perform to it's highest standard.
 

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........But from what I've read, even though you're getting similar wattage, a lot of people say that the HV setups give a strong but smooth TH (as opposed to the somewhat harsh TH you get from the LR setup). But I guess the only real way for me to find out is to try it out myself.

I think you "nailed" it pretty good.
 

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Funny you say that Hippiebrain ... was reading this thread, but was not going to comment as I have zero experience with any of it, but am interested. However your comment brought to mind something I am confronted with constantly.

I work in the wine industry, and there are a lot of wine snobs out there, that will tell you want is good and what isn’t, and if you don’t agree with them then there is something wrong with you. ( not that anyone has done that here… no one has, but your comment reminded me of that )

I usually lean over and tell those the new folks, that no one can tell you what you like or don’t like, they can only tell you what they like or don’t like. You like what you like, and you cannot be wrong about what you like.

I am going to take the slow path, although I suspect I would like the HV setup as described here, I’m just taking baby steps toward it...trying a LR atmoizer first.. it is in the mail.

In the mean time, I just read and learn.

Perhaps one of these days after my two daughters wedding are over ( both in the next couple of month s ) I will spend some money and try a few things.
 
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