Thoughts on Mixology Kits

[EgoLife]

Hey everyone first I wanted to say thanks for all the 411 everyone has been helping me out with some awesome information that has gotten me pretty far thus far. Always learning.

Ok so I wanted to ask everyone in the community how they would feel about a modified concept... I see a bunch of sites offering mini mixing kits some containing some VG PG syringes, caps, mask, well you know what they offer but I don't see any stellar kits.

The thing I was wondering about is would any of you be interested in a custom mixology kit with all top of the line items (no plastic containers all glass measuring devices, beakers, droppers) some pipettes idk I just wanted to hear some opinions about the idea since I have it in my head I can make one bas a** kit.

Thanks for the feedback ppl

 

[SouthernBliss]

I suspect that it would depend on the price point and the level of information about not just what was included but why it was included and instructions for use as part of the package.

 

[EgoLife]

Well the items I would include would definitely make sense and have a purpose.

I would also include a custom made directions for use but I don't plan on including any liquids it's just pure chem set I'm thinking about with a case. Price point would be significantly lower than anyone else offers for anything close to what I have as long as I can make it work that way. But yea it's something that crosses my mind that it might be doable.

 

[dannyv45]

I think it would give a new DYIer an advantage but as mentioned earlier it would depend on mixing information in the kit and the experience of the person offering these kits. In other words I would not buy from a person selling baking ingredients that's never baked a cake. There is a wealth of information here and it only takes a small amount of research to find what works and what don't. I myself am very particular about what I use to mix with and for me kits don't do it.

 

[SouthernBliss]

I might not by a cake from someone who never made them but I might buy a cake pan from someone who does not cook. If price points had not seemed so off the wall for what at the time looked fairly random I might have bought a starter kit rather than trying to sort out what I really needed. So many bits and bobs just didn't seem to logically fit into diy for me. I'm going to make a suggestion for something to put in that I am not really seeing readily available. A marked dropper. Droppers are easier to work with for small amounts but the drops method is fairly random. Marked droppers give ease and accuracy.

 

[Rickajho]

If it was just a "kit 'o stuff" with no liquids I fail to see the point. I don't see the appeal for advanced users who would already own 95% of what is probably going to be in there anyway. And for a DIY newbie a box of various glass plastic thingees with no liquids would be about as interesting as a dozen bikinis with a free trip to Iceland in winter. (In other words: What's the point?) Kits need to help newbies get all the basics they need and avoid mistakes selecting their first nic base, not leave them wide open to it. The instructions should be tied to the included nic to avoid serious newbie mistakes. Oh, get the "stuff" kit first, read the instructions, and them come back again and order liquids? I fail to see the appeal.

A kit without liquids - I just don't see a market for it.

 

[Iffy]

The thing I was wondering about is would any of you be interested in a custom mixology kit with all top of the line items (no plastic containers all glass measuring devices, beakers, droppers) some pipettes idk I just wanted to hear some opinions about the idea since I have it in my head I can make one bas a** kit.

I truly don't mean to 'dump' in your punch bowl, but...

There are soooo many approaches to and techniques for DIY. I believe in da KISS principle (due to my requirements and experiences). Some folk like pipettes, others prefer syringes (some with needles, some without). Some like to mix flavs with da nic, others prefer base first, then flav. Da possible variations are day-um near endless.

As for instructions... how many techniques (let alone pages) are ya willin' to provide?

Granted, with da proper 'presentation/advertisements' and a proven 'track record', ya might garner a portion of da n00b DIY genre. As for most of us here, I doubt there are five folk that DIY their recipes da same way wid da same equipment.

I sincerely do not mean to discourage ya! It's just that there are almost a countless number of permutations.

TBH, da true secret to successful DIY is not just da equipment and/or ingredients. It's patience, a strong desire for success, willingness to accept failures and a lil' bit of money!

If ya do decide to on take this 'mission', don't forget to include Hoosier's 'butterfly' fart hints in your instructions...

Seriously, good luck!

 

[Jo Patterson]

Hey everyone first I wanted to say thanks for all the 411 everyone has been helping me out with some awesome information that has gotten me pretty far thus far. Always learning.

Ok so I wanted to ask everyone in the community how they would feel about a modified concept... I see a bunch of sites offering mini mixing kits some containing some VG PG syringes, caps, mask, well you know what they offer but I don't see any stellar kits.

The thing I was wondering about is would any of you be interested in a custom mixology kit with all top of the line items (no plastic containers all glass measuring devices, beakers, droppers) some pipettes idk I just wanted to hear some opinions about the idea since I have it in my head I can make one bas a** kit.

Thanks for the feedback ppl

I think it's a fabulous idea .... in addition to the "stuff" it would have to have a basic recipe book and a copy of E-Cigarette Forum - Hoosier - Blogs with explanations - so many toss juice because it's per fumy or soapy -p but the truth is that would seep away if given the chance. So explaining all that would be totally awesome.

1st step - learning how to recognize and adjust the juices people buy
2nd step - learning how to mix pre-mixed juices to adjust the flavor
3rd step - actually getting into DIY

Great, totally awesome idea if you can do it cheap enough.

 

[dannyv45]

I think I'm going to write a detailed book on how to DYI with detailed explanation on NIC, Flavors, PG, Vg. detailed mixing instructions, , steeping, cautions, detailed description of mixing equipment and the who, what and why you need them and plenty of recipes and examples as well as tips and tricks. I'll also include details on vaping equipment such as batteries, clearos, cartos, drippers, atty's, chargers, cases etc... with all sorts of reviews. AND I'll make sure everything is spelled correctly

So what would you rather buy my book or a kit?

 

[Jo Patterson]

I think I'm going to write a detailed book on how to DYI with detailed explanation on NIC, Flavors, PG, Vg. detailed mixing instructions, , steeping, cautions, detailed description of mixing equipment and the who, what and why you need them and plenty of recipes and examples as well as tips and tricks. I'll also include details on vaping equipment such as batteries, clearos, cartos, drippers, atty's, chargers, cases etc... with all sorts of reviews. AND I'll make sure everything is spelled correctly

So what would you rather buy my book or a kit?

Definitely the book - are you going to self write and sell it on Kindle ?

 

[BlueMoods]

I wouldn't buy a kit. I may not like some of the things in it at all. I'd rather pick and choose what I want. Now if I could pick each item form a wide selection and, get a discount over buying them separately - a build it yourself kit where you fill in x number of this and y number of that, then get a discount for buying it all at once, sure but, a pre made with no choices on my part, nope.

 

[john333]

I use glass syringes to transfer nic pg vg and flavors from their bottle to another. It's very simple and works fine. What I think the world needs is a mixing station. I need a platform with stations to hold the bottles I am currently mixing and keep the bottles organized. Don't know if you've ever knocked over a bottle while mixing but it's very irritating or at least the one time I did it was. By the way, I keep my flavors stored in test tube racks. Being able to move around 60 flavors at once is nice.

 

[dannyv45]

Definitely the book - are you going to self write and sell it on Kindle ?

I think I'll have someone ghost write it for me. Someone that actually knows what there doing

 

[dannyv45]

Don't know if you've ever knocked over a bottle while mixing but it's very irritating or at least the one time I did it was.

It's especially irritating when you knock over a flavor that has a very strong odor. You just can't get rid of the odor know matter how well you clean it.

 

[KimchiMonger]

You'd sell a lot more of everything if you offered all the kit parts individually at the lowest price point. Many vendors have most or all needed tools, chemicals, and flavors. Price point can determine if visitor fills the cart and checks out. When it comes to syringes, pipettes, and even bottles, do you really get what you pay for? Well, on bottles, there is plastics vs glass and color but within those varieties the pricing is steadily similar. Any dedicated and willing newbie do it yourselfer, like myself, will research and purchase all needed 'tools of the trade' at best price possible. I already know the mixing and experimentation side of this endeavor will take time and experience. But to get started, I confirmed what I needed with just a few days of post reading.

I have a dozen concentrated flavors on the way right now and will be mixing next week for the first time ever. I spent a week reading every E-liquid DIY topic here and elsewhere, youtubed vids, and asked questions. I selected my various bottles, pipettes, syringes, VG base, nicotine base etc based on customer reviews and price. I selected my flavors based on what I absolutely love in my currently purchased pre-mixed vape juices. I'm learning something new about mixing everyday and haven't begun yet!

So who got the money on my simple beginner tools? Two vendors who turn up on page one of a Google/Bing search and generally have good feedback in this forum. Page one doesn't guarantee anything good but these two vendors have been around a bit and ranked higher on searches. I also visited a few less known suppliers as well. Built into the the two vendors I chose was positive customer service and product review along with very aggressive and competitive pricing on same or better quality product. No further research needed at that point and purchased my trinkets and absolutely fab flavors.

I did come across one vendor who had a complete master kit for sale. It had more than most would ever need but you wouldn't be lacking. I didn't purchase it as it had far too many flavors that don't suit me. It also had mixing bottles that fell short of my preferred plastic needle tip 10 ml and amber glass bottles for future 30 ml perfect mixes.

Not sure how other DIY minds did it but that's a quick insight to how I've come along so far. Hope that serves as one consumer example. A good question to consider is how the supplier of 'complete/master' kits would appeal to me otherwise. If there are more like me, it would be an important consideration.

For those unwilling or don't have the time, a kit would be the ticket I suppose.

 

[EgoLife]

Definitely appreciate the feedback for sure, and no no one bursted my bubble on the idea haha that's pretty much all it was an idea that I thought could benefit but to actually market it and cater to everyone's personal needs would be quite a mission. And the reason at the beginning I said I wasn't planning to use liquids is just I didn't want to get into the whole mess of percentages.... Obviously not everyone would be into the same base or amounts.

I do appreciate all the responses and insight though

 

[dannyv45]

Definitely appreciate the feedback for sure, and no no one bursted my bubble on the idea haha that's pretty much all it was an idea that I thought could benefit but to actually market it and cater to everyone's personal needs would be quite a mission. And the reason at the beginning I said I wasn't planning to use liquids is just I didn't want to get into the whole mess of percentages.... Obviously not everyone would be into the same base or amounts.

I do appreciate all the responses and insight though

The best way to contribute to the science of DYI mixology is to share your knowledge on the forum.

 

[Jo Patterson]

The best way to contribute to the science of DYI mixology is to share your knowledge on the forum.

Not totally - lot's of people having problems finding the information, judging by the number of comments that start with - "I'm sure someone asked this before, but ............ too many pages to read to find the answer, could someone please ..... " and so forth.

Turns out there are books available, just lacking in advertising I suppose.

Switch: Electronic Cigarettes & You: A Smoker's Buying Guide: D. R. Yurkas: 9781481019934: Amazon.com: Books

Amazon.com: The Best E-Cigarette Reviews eBook: Alexa Van Klemp: Kindle Store

Amazon.com: Electronic Cigarettes: What the Experts Say eBook: Paul Bergen, James Dunworth: Kindle Store

Amazon.com: The Ultimate Guide to Electronic Cigarettes eBook: Nathan Shaw: Kindle Store

Amazon.com: The Electronic Cigarette Alternative to Death by Cigarette eBook: Stanley Pontiere: Kindle Store

Amazon.com: Three Things You Need To Know About Electronic Cigarettes eBook: Michael Gorman: Kindle Store

Amazon.com: Vaper's Guide - The Definitive Guide To Vaping eBook: Tom Johnson: Kindle Store

Amazon.com: How to make your own Ecig Ecigarette Liquid fluid vapor at home! eBook: Marcos Sausilitos: Kindle Store

Amazon.com: Make your own e-liquid eBook: Mike Sands: Kindle Store

 

[jcmccord235]

A website specializing in high end diy supplies? Kits and piecemeal?

 

[dannyv45]

A website specializing in high end diy supplies? Kits and piecemeal?

DIY Concentrated Flavorings - Flavour Art Flavorings - MyFreedomSmokes.com