Thoughts so far and Vornado carto problem

[BonnyC]

I forget if the Vornado is the battery or the carto name. Bout to have to leave the house for a bit but I wanted to ask a question and give a mini review of my new toys.

Problem: The carto is leaking out of the battery connection like mad. I filled it, took a few puffs then set it aside to let it soak. I checked it and it's standing in a large puddle of juice. What did I break? I might have (probably did) twist it too far when I was screwing it on the battery but I didn't feel it thread all the way before I realized that I had overscrewed it. Overscrewed is now a word, by the way.

Fluxos are working well, muted flavor but good vapor. Gonna break it in and see how it goes. Then I'll look into mods.

Vision giant is fantastic, of course, as is the nano.

<3 my dongle so so so so much.

Menthol mania is probably the best menthol I've ever found. Just like altoids. Very strong menthol.

 

[SuperLuckyLady]

Mine only leaks if I forget to put the white seal back in. Otherwise, I get a tiny bit of leaking, but nothing to write home about.

 

[burns_erin]

Look inside, from the side, at the air hole. Some people have reported they screwed it on too tight and that got broken, And look up the skirt at the seal where metal meets plastic, that can crack as well.

BTW, the Vornado is the carto, the DONGLE is the power source.

I love the DONGLE and the menthol mania too!!!

 

[BonnyC]

Look inside, from the side, at the air hole. Some people have reported they screwed it on too tight and that got broken, And look up the skirt at the seal where metal meets plastic, that can crack as well.

BTW, the Vornado is the carto, the DONGLE is the power source.

I love the DONGLE and the menthol mania too!!!

I dunno, everything looks like it's in order. So I have no idea. It's hard to see inside of it, though, since it's smoke colored. Still, I got lots of other cartos now and another vornado so I'm pretty well set regardless.

I'll fill the other one up but not put it on the battery. Set it upright and see if it leaks any. This was a pretty bad leak, though. It took maybe an hour to drain it and it was half full.

 

[BonnyC]

Okay, yeah. The second one is leaking like mad, too. I didn't do anything but pop off the white cap, load a syringe and squirt it in through the little hole on the side. Am I doing it wrong or something? I didn't screw it onto the battery, just filled it and sat it on the table standing up (not on its side).

 

[SuperLuckyLady]

It's not clear to me if you put the white seal back in.

 

[Aunt Cranky]

There are a couple of threads in here about the Vornado and how to deal with leaking issues. One of the things i seem to recall reading was not to over tighten them on the battery. So inside of the bigger cone piece is a smaller cone that rests on top of the coil/wicking piece (which is really small). I would suppose that either your inner cone has a crack in it (allowing the juice to flood down inside) or that it's not sitting correctly on top of the coil/wicking piece.

They're fairly easy to take apart with a pair of pointy tweezers (one of the threads here has a vid on how to take them apart).

If you're game, take one apart just to make sure you don't have any cracks on the inside. Otherwise just check the connecton, make sure you're not trying to tighten it too hard against the battery.

 

[BonnyC]

There are a couple of threads in here about the Vornado and how to deal with leaking issues. One of the things i seem to recall reading was not to over tighten them on the battery. So inside of the bigger cone piece is a smaller cone that rests on top of the coil/wicking piece (which is really small). I would suppose that either your inner cone has a crack in it (allowing the juice to flood down inside) or that it's not sitting correctly on top of the coil/wicking piece.

They're fairly easy to take apart with a pair of pointy tweezers (one of the threads here has a vid on how to take them apart).

If you're game, take one apart just to make sure you don't have any cracks on the inside. Otherwise just check the connecton, make sure you're not trying to tighten it too hard against the battery.

To morganmeltz: Yes, I put the white seal back in both times.

Aunt Cranky: I suppose I'll have to look into taking them apart. The first one I thought I overtightened. So, on the second one I didn't even put it onto the battery. It leaked just as bad. I dunno, doesn't phase me too badly as I was mainly in it for the dongle I'm hooked on the vision extremes so I might not have even used these unless I had to.

Edited to add: I saw a drip coming out of the battery connection, so that has to be where it's leaking from instead of the seal at the skirt. Must be cracked on the inside.

 

[BonnyC]

Looking at the bottom of the second one, the post where it connects looks crooked. I uploaded a picture that I took but I am on my tablet, so I don't know if it will work. However, the first one doesn't look crooked.

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[badkolo]

its normal for it not to be completly centered.

 

[BonnyC]

Well, I don't know then. I guess I just got some duds. It isn't a problem, though, since I really just wanted the dongle.

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[SuperLuckyLady]

I guess so. I'm so sorry about that because I'm loving mine. I was bugging you about the seal because mine does leak like crazy without the seal - some kind of pressure equalization effect, I guess.

 

[MikenGA]

BonnyC, you're not alone. I only ordered 1 Vornado, and was very careful to follow instructions on the GV video to NOT over-tighten. (I only screwed it on far enough for a 'connection' to occur.) From the first fill, it leaks like a stuck pig.
I've tried both thin and thick juice, but this thang wants to leak it all out. It's a slow leak, but it's also messy.

Later this week, I'll probably take it apart to see if anything can be done to remedy the situation or identify the problem, but I have no plans to order another.


This may be the wrong place to post more comments, but I can't stop myself.

'Modded' Fluxos are still my FAVORITE of ALL TIME, but the Stone tanks are exceptionally good, too. (Currently waiting for the 'guts' for replacing burned out coil in my Stone V1, and absolutely LOVIN my Stone V2!)

As for Stardusts, I ordered 5, and have opened 4.
1 (the first I opened) is OUTSTANDING - vapes great and good flavor;
1 is OK - draw is stiff, but produces good vapor and flavor;
2 are duds - draw is stiff, barely produces vapor and turns clear juice BLACK during the last half of a tank.

If the last SD works great, I'll try another round of 5. OTOH, if it's stiff and turns juice black, I'll stick with Fluxos and Stones!

Sincerely, I DO appreciate the opportunity to try the various items GV offers, and it tickles the SNOT out of me that I've GOT 'something' that VAPES extremely well! I'm also a hog about 'Bads' video instructions, whether or not I need'em!

 

[JesByChance]

Piping in here as I'm becoming fascinated with the fluxo's and vornado's. I'm taking them fully apart and investigating and trying this and that. I think whats driving me is that when I started, I ordered quite a few 100VG juices. Now that I'm getting experience, reading posts and learning from many of you here, I'm experimenting.

Fluxo's weren't "hitting" like the vornado's and I was curious as to the why...which led me to the discovery of the VG juices being "thicker", so the wicks need to work harder and potentially can't keep up, leading to inconsistent vapes. Fluffing the wicks is not enough from my experience. I have to "unravel" the wicks from their tight braid, trim them a bit so that they don't get caught in the seal (besides, the last portions of the juice performance goes down dramatically anyway and you have to get the juice to the top coil by tilting). Adding that, along with enlarging the holes in the cup seal made a dramatic improvement. They vape almost as good as the vornado's.

Now on to the Vornado's and the leaking problem. Yes, check the top where the tip of the cone get's inserted into the slot. If it is off in any way, it will leak.

Second, what I found is that the cone sits flush on the base of the atomizer. On the vornado's that do not leak that I have, it sits really sturdily. What I mean by this is that it takes more effort to pull it off of the base. The one that leaks (my test one...figure since it leaks, to use it for my experiments), I notice that it "just" sits on the base. I cannot confirm that this is the cause because there is a hairline crack in the cone. So...check the cone to see if there is a hairline crack in it. If you have a clear vortex, you MIGHT be able to see but it's best to take it apart and inspect the cone. From the way you are describing the leakage, my guess is that there is a crack in the cone. This causes the integrity of the cone to be comprimised (sp?), which let's juice seep into the atomizer. What doesn't get burned off through the vaping process will leak out of the center post. If you just let it sit, the juice will just enter through the crack and then out...I hope this helps.

I feel compelled to thank the guys at GV for their outstanding choices in the products. Sure, some of them need fiddling with and once you get past the (damn, if I break it, that's $$ in the trash) mentality and actually start diving into 'em to get them working their best, it opens up whole new worlds. I'm now finally, FINALLY experiencing the e-juices the way they were meant to be experienced. Prior, the liquids were muted at best or provided dry vaping at worst! I sampled some flavors from vaporbomb and was really, really disappointed as I thought I had done everything that needed modding with the fluxo's and vornado's. Plug for LordDavon for his video's and instruction and going just a little further and removing just a hair more wicking, the vornado's come ALIVE! Pina colada, which I was so bummed prior, I gave it another shot and man o'man!!! It is just as described. I could see myself sitting at the beach on a nice sunny day, enjoying that delicious drink, just by vaping it! Awesome, just awesome. I even gave up on the carmel apple nectar juice from GV but Burns_Erin, bless her, I found her to be such a GREAT mentor with e-liquids. Now with the modded vornado's, I can see why she enjoys caramel apple!!! It is flavorful, hits HARD and is just yummy. Now my investment in the liquids will be realized. Can I get a hug?! lol.

 

[LordDavon]

Jess, I am glad that you enjoyed the mod video. I think it was needed, since my explanation of the mod left everyone asking, "huh?" I spent the day vaping a 20/80 Gummy Bears DIY I made. While out shopping, I was vaping on my way into the store, getting quite a bit of attention. Not so much about the vaping, but for the vasts amounts of vapor that I exhaled. VG in a modded Vornado is something to see.

Luckily, I do plan on doing more mod videos, in addition to my reviews. One I would like to do, if I can ever get the glue (hint hint GV), is a cone fix, for the Vornado. It should be a rather simple thing to do and, as with all my videos, I will go over dismantling and reassembling the Vornado.

So, if anyone has a Vornado that is leaking, just put it aside for now. There will be a repair video, and I am sure mine wont be the only one.

 

[MikenGA]

...if anyone has a Vornado that is leaking, just put it aside for now. There will be a repair video...

Yes sir...putting it aside and WAITING for further instructions.

 

[burns_erin]

Aww, thanks Jes!

 

[BonnyC]

Thanks everyone! I'm going to put them aside for now. I will take the one that ended up in the trash and take some pictures of what I find. Maybe you can help me make sense of it all. I'm such a newbie when it comes to tinkering with these things, but I am a quick study, or so I like to believe. But I really do appreciate the time and consideration you all have put in to helping me make these things work.



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[LordDavon]

If it will help Bonny, I did a mod video here: Vornado Modding - YouTube Once you get past my shaking, it is a decent video in showing how to dismantle and reassemble your Vornado. If you take it apart, you may find a hairline crack in the center tube (a.k.a. cone). I have some like this. GV sells some glue -- when it is in their page -- that will most likely act as a great seal for the crack, and is safe in vaping accessories.

 

[Aunt Cranky]

Yup cheers to LordDavon - I've started taking apart my Vornado after each fill, giving it a good hot water rinse, pat dry, a quick dry burn on the atty, and putting it back together. It works pretty good now with my 50/50 and 40/60 juice.

I've only had 1 leak experience and yeah- I do think it was because the cone was not seated properly inside after one of my cleaning efforts.

(and I'm also waiting on the Stone replacement parts and the glue.. so I can glue a replacement tube onto one of my Visions mini - before I knew you're not supposed to take them apart).