Thread lubricant for atomizers? (not for mods)
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A very light coat of vaseline works well for mod threads and o-rings, don't know why it would'nt be just fine for atty threads also. If you want to go the extra mile for o-rings that may contact the liquid you could use a food grade lubricant like Food Grade O Ring lubricant - Avid Vaper It'd probably work just fine for mod and atty threads also.
Vaseline is a petroleum product and will cause standard black rubber o rings to swell over time. Noalox is best for mod threads as it is conductive. A food grade silicone lubricant would probably be safest for atomizer/carto/tank threads and O rings as Bacc pointed out.
I am the Lube master. (lulz)
I just realized it's been forever since I posted anything.
I am the Lube master. (lulz)
I just realized it's been forever since I posted anything.
Hmm. That's a good question I never thought to test...
I have an old Omega here and some noalox... I'll get back to you on this with what I find.
**A FEW MINUTES LATER**
Well, Here's what I found out. The Omega only has one set of threads to noalox but I did see a voltage difference between the clean and lubed threads.
I measured the voltage at the connector with nothing attached:
Clean threads voltage: 6.75v
Noaloxed threads: 6.78v
Interesting. Now, .03v isn't much but consider that is just one threaded section. The benefits would probably much more if used on a mod that had multiple threaded sections such as threaded top caps, bottom caps, telescoping sections and whatnot.
I'm glad you asked and now we know^^
I have an old Omega here and some noalox... I'll get back to you on this with what I find.
**A FEW MINUTES LATER**
Well, Here's what I found out. The Omega only has one set of threads to noalox but I did see a voltage difference between the clean and lubed threads.
I measured the voltage at the connector with nothing attached:
Clean threads voltage: 6.75v
Noaloxed threads: 6.78v
Interesting. Now, .03v isn't much but consider that is just one threaded section. The benefits would probably much more if used on a mod that had multiple threaded sections such as threaded top caps, bottom caps, telescoping sections and whatnot.
I'm glad you asked and now we know^^
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Perhaps I'm a bit obsessive about lubricants... I use Dow Corning 111 grease for o-rings, GB Ox-Gard for tube threads and MG Chemicals silver grease for contacts.
Good work!
It'd be cool if you find the time to test results on other mods or confirm repeatability.
I work with lubricants daily and my suggestion would be to use PG and/or VG to lubricate your o-rings or atty threads. Why? Because even food-grade lubricants (such as Lubriplate) which are well-known in the food industry can give off some degree of toxicity since most all of them are petro based (specifically mineral oil - such as the case with Lubriplate).
While they may have high heat ratings for auto-ignition (heating to the point of combustion), I personally wouldn't put them on or near an element of my APV that is subject to varying levels of heat on and off just to be safe.
At least with PG/VG, should it vaporize, it's really no more harmful than the juice you're vaping because it's already in there.
Now when it comes to threading elsewhere, you have quite a few options, but I'd still stick with a non-toxic lubricant over just any lubricant on the market, just in case of a failure where the battery heats up beyond what it normally should. With something that comes so close to your face where even slight fumes could be inhaled with the vapor, I just wouldn't risk it.
My experience comes from working with firearms, which is an industry where your face is right there at where the lubricant is the majority of the time, especially with rifles. The heat from the projectile can vaporize the lubricant just as heat from your atty and/or battery could do the same (especially for sub-ohm vaping where heat is multiplied).
Just my 2c
While they may have high heat ratings for auto-ignition (heating to the point of combustion), I personally wouldn't put them on or near an element of my APV that is subject to varying levels of heat on and off just to be safe.
At least with PG/VG, should it vaporize, it's really no more harmful than the juice you're vaping because it's already in there.
Now when it comes to threading elsewhere, you have quite a few options, but I'd still stick with a non-toxic lubricant over just any lubricant on the market, just in case of a failure where the battery heats up beyond what it normally should. With something that comes so close to your face where even slight fumes could be inhaled with the vapor, I just wouldn't risk it.
My experience comes from working with firearms, which is an industry where your face is right there at where the lubricant is the majority of the time, especially with rifles. The heat from the projectile can vaporize the lubricant just as heat from your atty and/or battery could do the same (especially for sub-ohm vaping where heat is multiplied).
Just my 2c
And that right there is why I'll only use PG/VG to lubricate anything that comes in contact with the e-liquid.
That food-grade lubricant is rated as a food-grade lubricant in its "natural" state. Just because it's non-toxic at room temperature doesn't mean that it's safe to vape.
For it to be truly food-grade, it needs to be rated NSF H-1 which OK's it for incidental contact with food. If you look at the MSDS sheet for Lubriplate, the hazards of inhalation are lung damage and irritation (using FMO350-AW as the source). The reason for this is not just due to the mineral oil, but the additives they add to the mixture, which are proprietary and remain undisclosed.
Even with an auto-ignition temperature of 514F, as with any chemical or product, constant heating and cooling will cause break down, so I wouldn't be putting something like that so close to contact with my liquid (even o-rings will break down with constant heating and cooling, which is why it's important to keep a close eye on them and make sure they're in good condition).
I have my own self-designed lubricant for threading issues, and that goes near the battery and on all contact points the battery comes into contact with, but I even with it being non-toxic, I wouldn't put it around my atty. You're just throwing in yet another chemical to add yet another worry to the mix.
It's okay to lube the threads as venting, should it occur, is going to go through the vent holes in your APV (which are hopefully there), but for the atty, PG/VG is all I'd personally recommend.
Even with an auto-ignition temperature of 514F, as with any chemical or product, constant heating and cooling will cause break down, so I wouldn't be putting something like that so close to contact with my liquid (even o-rings will break down with constant heating and cooling, which is why it's important to keep a close eye on them and make sure they're in good condition).
I have my own self-designed lubricant for threading issues, and that goes near the battery and on all contact points the battery comes into contact with, but I even with it being non-toxic, I wouldn't put it around my atty. You're just throwing in yet another chemical to add yet another worry to the mix.
It's okay to lube the threads as venting, should it occur, is going to go through the vent holes in your APV (which are hopefully there), but for the atty, PG/VG is all I'd personally recommend.
I use the juice I using to lube atty o-rings and I just polish (buff) threads and clean with alcohol. On mods, Noalox only if you really must (remember if you can see it, it is probably too much). Seems to work for me.
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