Three E-Cig Models and still not happy.

[aob9]

I have used the Joye 510, 901 and now recently acquired the Joye ego tank system. I was a light analogue smoker but determined to give up. I also smoked light low-tar cigarettes. I am becoming increasingly disappointed the the whole e-cig concept. No matter what I buy, (different e-cigs, different juices) I cannot get a decent amount of vapor or throat hit. All this talk of "massive plumes" has yet to happen to me. The most annoying aspect is that at least some of the time my e-cig-juice combination seems to work (good vapor and throat hit)but for no apparent reason everything falls apart and I end up getting miserable amounts of vapor with no throat hit. I am perplexed at this stage. I gave up the 901 because only one out of five atomizers was actually producing a decent amount of vapor. My current combination is ego-tank system/mega atomizer with Halo torq 56 12mg. At first the vapor production was poor, then the atty appeared to have "broken-in" and I was quite pleased. Today, back to poor vapor,poor throat hit and I have changed nothing. To add to this whenever I occasionally get that burned taste it stays in my mouth for hours which is really off-putting. How can an occasional smoker like me be so disappointed with e-cigs when chain smokers have fallen in love with them?

 

[joeperson]

I would say bad luck, honeslty. Bad luck in receiving poor items.
I have a 510 and "Super eGo" both cart based, at that, and both do very well for me, especially the eGo which produces a ton of vapor. Could also be the liquid?

I don't know for sure, expectations and results are subjective, but I'm 3/3 and even my lowest end eCig works great for me with throat hit and vapor (my nJoy with auto battery just makes the grade with good liquid).

The burned taste appears to be somewhat common among tank users.

 

[Astronomer]

I have an eGo-T and love it

I do have to clean it occasionally, I do have to push the wick down just a touch occasionally, I am using stronger Nic – 24mg

I hope yours gets better.

When I get a burnt taste with my tank system, pushing the wick down with a paperclip just a touch, like a 1/16th of an inch usually takes care of the problem instantly.

I do hope you find something that works for you, I am a strongly addicted smoker, and much prefer my eGo to smoking.

 

[ctourtelot]

I do feel your pain. I was a 2+ PAD smoker and I went through at least 10 models before I was reasonably satisfied. I've come pretty close to consistant hits now with a tornado (ego) 1000mah battery and clearomizers, but i'm still nailing down an all day liquid. I liked the regular 510 kit for about a week. I got really tired of trying to get the cartridges to actually wick properly. I've never tried a 901. My first successful e-cig was a KR808D-1 from Vapor4Life. That was my only model for close to a year. It was simple to use, had tons of flavor choices and with the XL batteries I didn't have to charge very often.

It can be frustrating and there are still times I get irritated with it all, but it's kept me from cigarettes for almost 2 years and I've saved well over $7000 on what I'd have spent on cigarettes. It'll take some experimenting. If money is an issue, try the PIF thread to maybe pick up or trade liquids or units rather than buying new ones.

I'm not sure what to say on the problems you're having now. Atomizers are finicky. I've seen them last a year and I've seen them die in a day. They can get clogged easily and if not kept wet will burn quickly and yes that taste is hard to get rid of.

Don't hesitate to ask questions. There's a lot of info here and we'll all do our best to help you work through it.

 

[AmyB66]

I smoked about a half a pack a day, sometimes a wee bit more. Ultra light menthol to boot. 510 and 901 just didn't make me totally happy and willing to give it up at all. However a six volt mod did. Tank systems are touchey, I am still fussing around with them but so far I just fall back to a 3.0 ohm cartomizer. I also continue to use an 18mg liquid.

I guess that doesn't make sense, being a under a pack a day smoker and needing to go to the extreme to quit but it did work. I have a co-worker I switched over to e-cigs. She went from three packs a day to a 510 at 6ml nicotine overnight. I guess everyone's triggers and vaping requirements vary and you cannot expect to just fall into the same group with the same type of pv and have it work for you.

Good luck.

Feel free to pm me or post if you have any other questions since we kind of have a similar smoking background.

 

[Caddyman]

i have heard mixed reviews, mostly negative, on the ego tanks, if i were you i would buy some low resistance 510 atomizers and try dripping out and see how that suits you.

 

[dormouse]

What juice are you using - how much PG vs VG?

VG = more vapor, dulls TH and flavor
PG = less vapor, lets through TH and flavor
(TH assumes you have enough nicotine in the liquid to have TH)

And what flavors and brand are you using? And how much nic?

I could not vape foody/fruity flavors to start unless I mixed them with a good TH tobacco juice. Food/fruit flavors left me feeling like I had eaten and craving an analog. And 3 months and mixing vanilla, chocolates, cocoas into tobaccos I can now vape other flavors alone.

And have you tried cartomizers? I get a lot of vapor off Boge soft-cap cartos for 510 (and on Ego you could also use the LR ones for a hotter hit). To use cartos on Ego you may need to leave the cone off or use a 510 extender to life the carto above the cone.

 

[mlinky]

+1 on the Boge cartomizers. Get a pack of Boge 2 ohm cartomizers and see if that helps. I found them to be a good consistent vape on the eGo battery. Have to add juice more often than with a tank, but it's so easy to pop the top and add a few drops, or just pull off the soft cap and use a 510 drip tip.

 

[spirits3250]

I have had the same problem. I was a 2 PAD smoker. I have managed to quit cigarettes by using ecigs but for me they are far from perfect. The reason they have worked for me thus far is that I WANTED to quit. None of the different brands I have tried "did it all" for me. There have been many, many days I have had to stop myself from lighting up a regular cigarette but happily I haven't so far. I have tried Kr808-- battery life too short. I tried 510's - same problem. I have been using Egos and Rivas and they have helped. The Ego T didn't work for me at all. Cartomizers didn't work for me either. I have been dripping on the Ego/Riva. Honestly, still not enough. I have now ordered a bottom feeding mod and am waiting for its arrival. I am strongly hoping this will be "it" for me....strong enough hit, enough vapor and plenty of flavor. Fingers crossed. I am fairly sure the mod won't be the end all either but because I don't want to go back to cigs I will be satisfied with what I have. Even the worst ecigs are better than smoking tobacco cigs for me.

 

[ancient puffer]

I too, purchased the tank system (Wicked Vapor branded ego t) and am disappointed in the flavor. However, I also own a Screwdriver™ which came with 2 510 atomizers. Placing them on the tornado tank battery essentially reverts me back to the standard tornado, but I'm getting good vapor and my flavors are now strong enough to taste.

My wife didn't want a "tank" so I ordered her the regular tornado and she's quite pleased with it. We both switched from "cigarette style" PV's, as the battery life, and atomizer/cartridge quality was too inconsistent.

I still use the "tank" for trips away from home, due to its capacity, but find myself anxious to return home and use the standard 510 atomizer/cart. I also drip fill my cartridges and find that as long as I don't vape them dry, there's virtually no burnt aftertaste. The wife uses "Chocolate Truffle 18mg" and I'm using "French Vanilla 18mg" both from Johnson Creek and both seem to work quite well with the 510 atomizers/carts.

Don't give up, it took us several months to wind up with something we're happy with.

 

[markfm]

On eGo, I would suggest the boge 2 ohm cartomizers too, and make sure that your juice is something like 70% PG, 30% VG, to get a balance on throat hit and vapor. As you head towards 0 PG you will get a lot of vapor, but less throat hit. Also increased nic leads to higher TH, and some flavors just seem to have more throat hit innately -- menthol, some vanillas.

 

[unsure]

Get an inexpensive box mod for long battery life and a LR 1.5 306 atty. A good cheap starter kit is http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/160858-3-7-volt-510-box-mod-2-14500-trustfire-batteries-charger-30-free-shipping-plus-20-ml-juice.html With a VG juice and that atty I sugested you will see those big plumes of vapor and good warm TH.

 

[r4tlu0v]

I completely agree with mlinky. I was buying some hardcore juice but not experiencing hardly any throat hit until I bought a 5 pack of Boge 2 Ohm Blank Cartomizers. It made a complete night and day difference.

 

[mt123]

try the X-power 900c. It works for me.

 

[aob9]

Thank you all for your help and replies. There is obviously a huge community of us ex-smokers willing to lend each other a hand. I notice from a few of your comments that you were quite pleased with the 510. Why then have my 510 atomizers (with the exception of one) being really rubbish at producing vapor. I am reluctant to blame the battery as it did work very well with that single atty. For the record, that particular 510 experience with the good atomizer was very positive. So, can anybody suggest a reputable supplier of high quality 510 atomizers bearing in mind I live in Ireland. Also, can anybody recommend any other improvements to the 510 system...........not too complicated though, I'm a noobie. I really don't want to move from 12mg to 18mg Nic to get TH, I wasn't a heavy smoker to begin with.

To those that mentioned adjusting the wick in the Ego-T, does that require pushing something into the "tube" protruding from the atomizer, can I mess this up?

 

[mlinky]

I have had the same problem. I was a 2 PAD smoker. I have managed to quit cigarettes by using ecigs but for me they are far from perfect. The reason they have worked for me thus far is that I WANTED to quit. None of the different brands I have tried "did it all" for me. There have been many, many days I have had to stop myself from lighting up a regular cigarette but happily I haven't so far. I have tried Kr808-- battery life too short. I tried 510's - same problem. I have been using Egos and Rivas and they have helped. The Ego T didn't work for me at all. Cartomizers didn't work for me either. I have been dripping on the Ego/Riva. Honestly, still not enough. I have now ordered a bottom feeding mod and am waiting for its arrival. I am strongly hoping this will be "it" for me....strong enough hit, enough vapor and plenty of flavor. Fingers crossed. I am fairly sure the mod won't be the end all either but because I don't want to go back to cigs I will be satisfied with what I have. Even the worst ecigs are better than smoking tobacco cigs for me.

If you got a REO, or another 3.7v bottom feeder and you want the throat hit, get some 1.5 Cisco or ikenvape attys. They rock. All of the flavor of dripping, without the bother.

 

[Rosa]

To those that mentioned adjusting the wick in the Ego-T, does that require pushing something into the "tube" protruding from the atomizer, can I mess this up?

In this video he explains it (at around 11 minutes), and yes, you can mess it up so it's only recommended to try it if you have pretty much given up:
YouTube - Review: eGo-T eCig from Ovale

I'm with the group who says get the LR atomizer (I hear the LR306 is best) and a drip tip. I am partial to the boge LR cartomizers as well, but you have to keep them wet and don't over vape them. Plus, it's harder to get great TH using the lower mg nicotine but you can help it along with 100% PG (but then you sacrifice the plumes of vapor), LR atomizers, and menthol flavors.

 

[mlinky]

Thank you all for your help and replies. There is obviously a huge community of us ex-smokers willing to lend each other a hand. I notice from a few of your comments that you were quite pleased with the 510. Why then have my 510 atomizers (with the exception of one) being really rubbish at producing vapor. I am reluctant to blame the battery as it did work very well with that single atty. For the record, that particular 510 experience with the good atomizer was very positive. So, can anybody suggest a reputable supplier of high quality 510 atomizers bearing in mind I live in Ireland. Also, can anybody recommend any other improvements to the 510 system...........not too complicated though, I'm a noobie. I really don't want to move from 12mg to 18mg Nic to get TH, I wasn't a heavy smoker to begin with.

To those that mentioned adjusting the wick in the Ego-T, does that require pushing something into the "tube" protruding from the atomizer, can I mess this up?

My suggestion for the Boge 2ohm cartos is a mini-step that should help your issues, but if you are looking for real performance, and you are not constrained by cost, you can't beat a REO. Rob will ship almost anywhere.

 

[uba egar320]

Never had a Reo, but I can vouch for bottom feeders. They are a much needed break from all the daily hassle of ecigs. The one I've got uses an 18650, and hits like a tank.

 

[dormouse]

What is your PG/VG ratio? If you are using 100% PG juice the vapor will suck - thin vapor, very little left by the time you exhale.

I am vaping 70pg/30vg 11-12mg juices. I have a bunch of vapor. But nicotine=TH - the less nicotine, the less TH. Ways to gets more TH out of vapor are more hotter vapor (thus the LR cartomizer), and rougher tougher flavors - I am vaping Vapor4Life WOWbacco (a strong cocoa tobacco, and WOWBoy is the same w/ some mint added). Not a ton of vapor since my guess is it has higher PG than my usual juices - but I can feel it. In my KR808D-1 manual which is a full 3.7v battery I get TH off Backwoods Brew Vanilla Bean and I actually get TOO much TH off some of their WOW flavors. This is with 11 mg juice. Even 10% VG will add a decent amount of vapor if you prefer high-PG for more TH.

If you want big freaking huge vapor burn your throat for 10 minutes - try Avejuice's Boba' Bounty - it is all VG but they have something in there that give a big throat burn. Or add Qhit to your juices that don't have enough hit.

I don't know why your LR attys aren't giving you good hits but it could be your juice choices, maybe you don't clean the attys, maybe you need to switch your carts to blue foam to get better wicking. Maybe you need to try LR cartos with the wet stuffing makes great contact with the atty. But the main issue is probably 12mg nicotine and I certainly don't suggest you raise your nicotine just to get TH. I just dropped from my starting level of 18 to 12. Yes there is less TH with 12. But there are things you can do -

Try other juices. Try adding Qhit to your juice (FSUSA sells it). Add FSUSA Pepper juice. Try Avejuice's Boba's Bounty. Try flavors with flavor-hit like menthol, mint, cinnamon, chai, etc.

And my other suggestion - find juices you really really like the aroma of. It took some money and time for me to figure out that Turkish blends and cocoa and vanilla (and mixing them) were what reminded me of smoking and and had a psychological tranquilizing effect on me. Let your nose have some of the vapor. If your nose is enjoying it you won't care about the TH as much. Find some juices with aromas that make you relax.