throat burn.....WHY

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Katya

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Im new to vaping and unfortunately all i have experienced is coughing, spluttering and discomfort...i picked up the subvod nano by kangartech..... is this normal for beginners

Can you tell us which coils you're using (resistance) and at what wattage?

ETA--I just googled your kit. The battery is 3.7v? No VV/VW?

Then I suggest you start with 1.5Ω coils--it should get you to ~9 watts. Prime them well so you don't scorch them.
 
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I have the subvod nano by kangartech output voltage is 3.7v
Capacity1300nAH
Cool resistence above >4Ωhm

Yes, I'm reading up on your mod...

It can't be 4Ω. Is it 0.4Ω, perhaps? If it is, you're vaping at 34.2 watts, which is very high, at least for me--and I've been vaping for over 6 years. You have to be careful that your coil is perfectly saturated and that your airflow is fully open. But honestly, that would be way too much for me.
 
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Yes, I'm reading up on your mod...

It can't be 4Ω. Is it 0.4Ω, perhaps? If it is, you're vaping at 34.2 watts, which is very high, at least for me--and I've been vaping for over 6 years. You have to be careful that your coil in perfectly saturated and that your airflow is fully open. But honestly, that would be way too much for me.
Hmmm yes correction.0.4Ωhm so as tw33k said I am going to drop my nic levels and experiment with pg/vg ratio and will see what happens.... Thanks heaps all.....happy vape out
 
Can you tell us which coils you're using (resistance) and at what wattage?

ETA--I just googled your kit. The battery is 3.7v? No VV/VW?

Then I suggest you start with 1.5Ω coils--it should get you to ~9 watts. Prime them well so you don't scorch them.
Yes have done so running 1.5Ωhm now. Thankyou for your advice....I just wana vape .......n it....lol
 

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    You might be using it incorrectly. See this link - it helped me.

    Inhalation technique with an e-cigarette

    BTW - welcome! :)

    That info is potentially out of date. Especially if using a subtank with the intended sub-ohm coils, it is almost opposite. Plus it seems more concerned with summarizing the basics of e-cigs than getting into details of inhalation technique.

    Like a cig but more so, there is the inhaling and where that goes, but at the same time you have to look at how that's affecting the cig. On a tight airflow device, yes too much suction can pull too much liquid into the coil/wick. Plus it just doesn't make more vapor. On a high output, high airflow device however, too little air pulled through will tend towards overheating. Don't pick up a cloud chaser's rig and try long gentle drags, you will burn it and probably your throat.

    There tends to be a certain timing to the behavior of the device during a hit. At first it will be a little cool and bland, then flavor will come up, and then possibly it will start to get too hot and start losing flavor again, and if taken too far will start tasting a bit burnt which will have a bad cumulative effect. By "hot" I mean internally at the coil, in the nature of the vapor generation and flavor. On a small device you might not feel actual heat coming out, while on a high-power one you probably will. If airflow allows, pulling the air faster will make it run cooler -- I like a setup where this is needed/usable for longer drags only.

    With an adjustable device, you can vary this to avoid burning or get the heat going faster, to match your preferred pace. With an unadjustable device, quite often you will have to be very aware of the heat cycle, or you might need to control the heat by letting off the button for short intervals during the hit. In the case of certain cheap badly tuned setups, this could reach the point of clicking it as fast as you can, although I'm sure the Subvod is way better than that.
     
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    So much brilliant advice is already given to you in this thread. as a new vaper, I can only share my own experience.

    I have the Subvod, and use it with the OCC 1.5ohm coil. I think the draw, even at smallest airflow, is not optimal relaxed for MTL as a new vaper ... this will differ, and is a personal reference.

    For me the Nano airflow settings has seemed to "lure" me into doing DL, so now I mostly, not only, DL on the Nano, and if I want a more relaxed tight 4-5 sec MTL draw I put the Nautilus Mini w. 1.6-1.8 ohm BVC coil, on the Subvod batttery, and it works like a charm for both MTL and DL, when quickly shifting between the 4 different airholes, and gives more flavour compared to the Nano... in my opinion.

    When/if you DL on the Subvod w Nano tank, then make a long tight draw, in order to prevent gurgles.

    While the Subvod 1300mah battery works ok and fits a pocket easily, I would recommend that you try out a VW reg battery at some point. It allows you to go on search for the sweetspot in you e-liquids ... if flavour is of an importance.
     

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    ... oh yeah, almost forgot ... before going higher in the VG, then my experience has been, that...

    - yes, it takes a bit time for the throat to get used to a throat hit without the "throat calming" ingredients in cigarets, which are meant to make the throat hit more pleasant (yes they do)
    - I started out with 12mg, which was too much for the nano and indeed for DL. Now I do 6mg, and RDA's + DL I prefer 3mg. The degree of throat hit, also varies depending on the e-liquid ... cinnemon flavour is good to avoid in the beginning, since it irritates the throat ... same goes for other flavours, but I don't remember which.
    - The mix of PG vs VG matters ... PG carries the flavour, and also provides a throat hit.

    I started out using 50pg/50vg, avoided flavours that give throat hit, lowered my nicotine and was patiently waiting for my symptoms from having stopped smoking to dissapeir and for my throat to get used to this new vaping sensation. It took less than 2 weeks.
    If that does not work out for you, then you can start experimenting with various levels of VG and PG, but be patient before concluding that the cause could be direct allergy, unless of course heavier symptoms appears.

    It takes time, experimenting and patience :rolleyes:
     
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    @Mette As I may have said before, the Subox Mini Kit was my smoking cessation device, and my experience was I hit the ground running as I enjoyed both the MTL and DL hits the tank produced. I started with both 12mg and 9mg nic levels High VG juices and absolutely loved my initial weeks with it. My only gripe is I'm now going through my second bout of vaper's tongue, but I'm still very glad that giving up cigarettes was this easy.
     
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    As a side note here when sub ohming, please keep in mind that pre fab coils in the sub ohm realm are almost always dual coils. When using dual coils, the amount of nicotine in your juice is automatically doubled. 3 becomes 6, 6 becomes 12 and so on...
    This same rule applies if you get into building your own. More coils, more vapor, more flavor and of course, more nicotine.
    Good luck on your journey,
    Vape On!
     
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    As a side note here when sub ohming, please keep in mind that pre fab coils in the sub ohm realm are almost always dual coils. When using dual coils, the amount of nicotine in your juice is automatically doubled. 3 becomes 6, 6 becomes 12 and so on...
    This same rule applies if you get into building your own. More coils, more vapor, more flavor and of course, more nicotine.
    Good luck on your journey,
    Vape On!
    I didn't quite realise that about nicotine, thanks for that. Even though I can not taste the flavours, I have noticed a more throaty hit.

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    I didn't quite realise that about nicotine, thanks for that. Even though I can not taste the flavours, I have noticed a more throaty hit.

    Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk
    I learned that the hard way when I started sub ohming...was dripping 12mg on dual coils:eek:
    Felt like I was going to die.
     
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